Issue in setting up dervived depreciation area

Hi,
We have created the following depreciation areas in our development system ,
Depreciation Area                           Type      GL                                            Ledger Group
01 : Book depreciation                     Real      Area posts in real time             0L - Leading ledger
02 : Federal                                      Real      Area doesnt post                     -
We want to create a derived depreciation area : 03 ( 01 - 02) but when we are creating that system is not allowing because it is asking for a ledger group to be assigned. ( we have tried with Wizard and without wizard also to setup parallel valuation)
If anyone of you come across this scenarion , please let us know how this was met.
Thanks in advance.
Regards
Vara Prasad

Hi,
do you have more ledger groups then 0L? If not, you can clear the ledger group information in area 01, that doesn´t harm. Then it should be possible to create the derived area without this problem.
Regards,
Markus

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