Legacy Balance of Group Assets

Dear All,
I want to know the process to upload the Legacy balance of Group Assets. Whether -
1) It is to be uploaded separately through LSMW in AS81 or
2) It gets updated automatically (keeps adding) when we update legacy balance of individual assets in AS91 & AS94.
(In the same way as acquisition value gets updated automatically)
Thanks & Regards,
Reshma

Hi Reshma
It is through AS81/82
Regards
Ajay M

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I need to take from the business/Can we create by own.
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Hi,
I am maintaining group asset for Income Tax Depreciation. All the asset under the same class is consider single asset for Income tax purpose. For eg value of Plant and machinery under Income tax is derived for all asset totaled together after depreciation for the year. Thus P&M is considered single asset for calculating I.T. Depreciation, even though it may contain 100 assets.
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Account assignment for group asset is different from that in asset

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I have creted one main asset . and i have created group asset. and my main asset class and group asset class are both are different.If i continue that error assets are shoud be craeted .but the depreciation key and usefull life and ordinary depreciation will going and it's showing grey.
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Diagnosis
The account allocation 14000 of the group asset 140000001 0 is different from account allocation 1000 of the asset.
System Response
This error needs to be corrected for balance sheet valuation (usually determined in depreciation area 01). For all other depreciation areas, this is only a warning you should check.
Procedure
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regards
venkataswamy

Hi sudhakar
Thanks for your reply
1) for example i have buliding asset class and i have one group asset class.under the building asset account determination i have assighned the gl a/c for both b/s and book deprecitaion
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then assighned the group asset to main assets. the error is comming like this Account assignment for group asset is different from that in asset
I have serched in sdn forum and service .sap.com . they are saying you can use same gl a/c for both asset class.for depreciation .i have tried this scenario. still i am getting the same error and same problem.
The most important thing is we are working on ECC 6 versions
sap note 76186.
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venkataswamy
Edited by: venkataswamy bathini on Jul 6, 2009 9:22 AM

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