Make to order issue

Hi all,
I am trying make to order scenario but i am not getting the desired result. I created a sales order, run the MRP and when in MD04, i want to convert the planned order into production order then at that time the system in the "additional Data for MRP element" screen - in the field besides planned order no. shows me "make to stock". I am working for MTO scenario. The following are the settings i have maintained:
1. In MMR item category group is "0001"
2. In MRP3 screen the strategy group is "20"
3. VOV4 item category determination i have used item category as "TAN" only.
4. In IMG - sales & distribution - basic functions - AVC & TOR - Transfer of requirements - define requirments class. Here I have selected "040"
5. In define requiremen type i have used "KE -
040"
6. Determination Of Requirement Types Using Transaction - here for item category "TAN" & MRP type "PD" i have selected as 0 - i.e strategy group will come into picture.
I want clarification on the following issues:
1. Which requirements class to be used and what are the settings in the "requirements class". I want field wise entry.
2. Which is the requirement type to be used and where else this requirement type is to be assigned. I want for both SD & PP assignments.
3. Is there any setting to be done in AVC?
4. Is the item category determination correct? i.e i have used TAN for item category group "0001". Is it correct or do i have to assign any other item category.
5. Is the strategy group correct.
6. What are the settings to be done from the PP point of view.
7. In MTO say sales order is created for 20 pc and while generating the production order is it possible to create for 25 pc keeping in mind that 5 may be scrapped.
8. When the planned order is converted to production order and if there is shortage of raw material then does the system ask for the sales order no. while creating the "PR" and the "PO"?
I want the following results out of MTO:
1. when i convert the planned order into a production order the system should show the sales order no. so that the production order can be traced back to the sales order.
2. Suppose today I create sales order for item "A" 10 pc. 5 are anyhow in stock, so i confirm those 5 pc for that sales order and production order will be created for 5 only. Say after 10 days when the remaining 5 pc come to stcok then the system shoud automatically confirm those 5 pc for the original sales order only against which the production order was created.
3. I want to evaluate the fin. goods stock as per the sales order. Is it possible.
Efective answers will be highly appreciated.
Regards,
Allabaqsh G. Patil
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allabaqsh patil

dear patil
please gothrough this
Make to order Scenario
1. Make-to-order production is a process in which a product is individually manufactured for a particular customer. In contrast to mass production for an unspecified market where a material is manufactured many times, in make-to-order production a material is created only once though the same or a similar production process might be repeated at a later time.
2. You can use make-to-order production: (a) For branches of industry or products where a small quantity of products with a large number of different characteristics are manufactured (b) When a product has to be assembled particularly for a sales order.
3. Stock keeping is not usually carried out for products that are made to order. In companies using make-to-order production, the demand program only determines the production area, in which various variant types are produced. Depending on how you track the costs associated with make-to-order production, there are two ways to process make-to-order items during sales order processing.
(a) Make to order using sales order
(b) Make to order using project system (not relevant for SD application)
4. for make to order production using the sales order, all costs and revenues involved for an order item are held collectively at that item. A particular rule is used that can be changed manually to transfer costs to profitability analysis.
5. make to order production is largely a production planning configuration. It is also controlled by the requirements type, which is determined by three things
the strategy group (MRP 3) in MMR
the MRP group (MRP1) in MMR
the item category and MRP type (MRP 1)
6. Make-to-order production is controlled by the requirements type. The requirements type is determined on the basis of the MRP group (MRP1) and the strategy group (MRP3) in the material master record. In addition, a plant must be assigned for make-to-order items in the sales order.
MAKE TO ORDER PRODUCTION (PROCESS FLOW )
First Create a material with MM
Basic data1:
Give Material name : Cycle
Material group : 010
Division : MA
Net Weight : 10 Kg's
Gross Weight : 10Kgs.
Sales: Sales org.1 :
Base Unit of Measure : EA
Delivering Plant : RAMA
Output Tax : 1 ( Full tax)
Sales: General/Plant :
Availability Check : 01 ( Daily Requirements)
Trans.,group : 001
Loading Group : 0003
MRP 1:
Mrp Group : 020 ( Make to Order Production)
Mrp type : PD (MRP)
Mrp controller : 000
Lot size : EX ( Lot-for-Lot order quantity)
MRP 2:
Inhouse Production : 1
Schedule Margin Key : 000
Forecasting:
Forecast Model : D (Constant Model)
Accounting 1:
Price control : V ( Variable Price)
Variable Price : 4000
Price Unit : 1
Then enter & Save.
Material 769 created.
Create a Sales order with VA;
Order type : OR
Sales Organization : RAMA
Distribution Channel : RA
Division : MA
Sales Office : RAMA
Sales Group : RAM, .............. Enter
Sold to Party : 6000000000
PO number : 55 , PO Date : 04.06.2007.
Item Overview Tab:
Material 769, Quantity : 100
Enter & Save the Document.
Sales Order 8212 Created
Create Production Order with CO:
Enter Sales order number: 8212, Item No. 10
Order type : PP, Enter
Click on FLAG,
Select Generate Operation and enter NO,
save the Document.
Production Order Created : 60002725
Confirm the Production Order with CO15.
Enter Production Order No. 600075 and save the Document.
Now the confirmation Order will be saved.
Create Goods Receipts with MB31.
Movement type : 101
Order : 6002725
Plant : RAMA
Storage Location : RAMA
Enter and Save, you will get Document Posted : 50000068931posted.
Check the Stock Position with MMBE
Material : 769
Plant : RAMA
Storage Location : RAMA
Execute (F8), Here we can see the stock at Sales Order Stock.
Create Delivery with VL01N, Billing with VF01 and Post to Accounts
rewards if it helps
siva

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Hello,
In MTO scenario the following happens:
1. Sales Order is created - standard requirements type determined is KE which fetches requirements class 040. The requirements class 040 has controls for MTO & special stock indicator will have entry as "E-orders on hand".
2. After MRP is run the system will transfer the requirements to PP, a planned order will be created which is then converted into a production order.
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The component cannot be allocated to an individual stock because make-to-order production and engineer-to-order production cannot be executed with this order.
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Details:
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Item category: TAC, Stratergy Group: 20, Requirement Type: KE, Requirement Class: 040. (Contains, Acc *** Cat: 'E' and Special Stock Indicator 'E'.)
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Hi Ugameshk,
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regards
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Edited by: tara bhapkar on Oct 1, 2009 11:37 AM
Edited by: tara bhapkar on Oct 1, 2009 11:38 AM

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