Mm condition types to copa

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Hi ,
How to transfer mm condition types to copa .
For trading goods, Client needs the purchasing cost break-up ( purchase price ,freight &customs ) .There is no cost estimate for these materials .
As i need to transfer many items ( purchase price ,freight &customs ) i do not want to use ke4im and PA transfer structure configuration Is there any other way to transfer mm condition types to copa

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I am getting the below error while releasing billing document.
Assign condition HD00 type in COPA
HD00 condition type is frieght condition type
Is it good thing if we assign this condition type to COPA value field in KE4I? or we should not assign Frieght condition to COPA?
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Kishore

HI Kishore,
To which GL account are you posting this freight condition value? Is that GL created as a revenue element (of category '11'/'12')?
If yes (has to be 'yes', since you are getting the error message), then you don't have a choice but assigning a CO-PA value field in KE4I. The idea here is, if you have created the GL as revenue element, then you intend to take it to Controlling module for further analysis. Thus, making your FI/CO reconciliation easy.
If you do want to carry this value to CO-PA for analytical reporting then don't create that particular GL (assuming you are posting freight to a separate GL) as a revenue element. That said, it does make sense to carry this value to CO-PA and in your present case, you don't have a choice as the message which you got is an error message, which you can't circumvent.
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Freight condition type to COPA

Dear Experts,
I know only two type of condition type passed to COPA
1) Statistical Condition type
2) Condition type with 11 and 12 cost element category
like - discount,rebate with 12 category and frieght and octroi charged from customer with 11 category
and if i need to flow excise and service tax to copa.will create separate statistical condition type equivalent to excise condition type.
But how to flow other expenses condition type to COPA. like frieght paid to customer
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Hi ajay,
Thanks for your pmompt reply
i will maintain 12 cost element categary but in copa it will show frieght seperate and revenue seperate.
ie - revenue 10 rs
frieght -2 rs
system will not show revenue 8rs deducted frieght from there.
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RR

Statistical Condition type in COPA

Hi All,
I have a sitaution in which I have to capture the value of a condition type, which is statistical, in to COPA. Can any one help me how to setup this and how can I map it to a value field.
I would appreciate your comments.
Thanks
MKR

Hi!
For the same you need to go to t.code KE4I. You need to assign all condition types to COPA value fields.
All condition types that you want to transfer to COPA must be active in SD pricing procedure. Inactive conditions in a billing item are not transfered to COPA.
Conditions do not need to be active , however to be transfered with sales order items, since the transfer of incoming sales order items are always statistical.
Hope this will help much.
Pls get back to me for further query.
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Transferring mm condition types to copa

hi,
i need to transfer mm condition types to copa.
Evenafter assigning mm condition types to copa value fields no values are flowing into copa.
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guru
no reply??

Hi,
Even if they are trading goods, the materials should have been created in the system, go ahead and run the costing run which will update the MM accounting view with standard prices. Only thing is that it will calculate the activity prices and overheads.
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Assign Condition type to COPA

Hi Experts,
When our SD guy trying to release the Billing Document. He is getting error "Assign ZDPR Condition type to COPA". ZDPR Condition type is used in different Pricing Procedures. When he used to release the Biilling Document with different pricing procedure, its releasing propoerly. But If he used this particular Pricing Procedure he is not able to release the Billing Document. That Condition type is using for internal calculation its not required for COPA. And one main thing he is able to work in Development with this same configuration. But this happening in Quality server.
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Hi Balaji
Ask your SD consultant to check the settings for this cond type in Pricing procedure
If you feel it should not be updated to COPA and is meant only for Internal Calculations, then mark this ZDPR as "Statistical" in all Pricing procedures.....
You might not have specified it as such and also you would have specified some account key against this condition type. Due to this, it is assuming that it is a normal condition type
Another option is to remove it from the pricing procedure, if possible...
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Error while posting in accounts: Condition type does not exist in COPA

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I'm trying to post an invoice into accounts but I'm constantly encountering a Error message as : Assign condition type in COPA.
This error is appearing whenever I'm assigning the pricing procedure and KOFK account entries to a new sales organization.
The error does not appear for my previous Sales org. Also I check with the COPA settings, it does not allow us to enter the condition type mentioned in the error.
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Dear Customer,
To solve error KE391, the corresponding value field assignment
must be done in transaction KE4IM.
Currently, the value field assignment is available for this
condition type in transaction KE4I (SD conditions assignment).
In this case you have to maintain the assignment to a value field in
transaction KE4IM. After including the corresponding assignment in
KE4IM, the error KE391 should not come anymore.
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1)While mapping SD condition types to Copa value fields, do we need to check the transfer +/- symbol for all discount condition types...
or when do we need to check it..
2) In our case we have some 4 to 5 discount condition types mapped to copa... If we check that symbol, as discount will always be negative system is posting discount values in negative in copa. At the time of report execution, since we give formula as Sales Less discount and discount is already negative in system it is getting added... so we are planning to change formula as sales + discounts... is that approach is right?
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Condition Type with cost element category 1

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I have costing based copa and I am running make to stock scenario.
SD team added new condition type in their pricing.
This condition type is mapped to FI GL account which is a cost account (cost element category 1) while the other condition type in SD pricing is cost element category 11 or 12.
I mapping this cost account to a cost center in OKB9.
But when SD run billing, there is an error message :
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I don't mapped this new condition type to copa value field.
But Why does this error come?
Please help me.
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Hi Anu
This is standard behaviour... Once you have COPA active, the Prof Segment gets derived when you create Sales Order...
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The design is such that you cant post to COPA using Catg 1 cost element....
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COPA - Split of Value from condition type into different value fields

Dear All,
Customer is having several free schemes to customer the same is set up by SD and Cost of free goods is attached to One Z condition type, this flows along with Main product as characteristic. So we have Main product cost in VPRS and Scheme cost in Z Condition and there is possibility of more than one scheme cost flowing in one Z condition for single billing document. Whereas customer request is to see the each scheme cost separately in COPA. Since Value from SD will be flowing through only one condition type , it will be difficult to me to Split this in COPA. We have given a thought of having more than one condition type from SD ( one Z condition for one scheme) but this resolve our issue at hand. If we look at long term whenever customer introduces new Scheme new condition type need to be created and related COPA changes etc, Which doesn't seem to be working out.
Request Experts help in this, thanks in advance for the help.

Hi Santosh
Having a Z cond type for each scheme is preferrable.... This would address the issue with Standard SAP itself...
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Maintain the schemes in a Z Table... Where each scheme will have a scheme ID - The ratio applicable to various schemes and also the relevant value fields of COPA to be updated for each scheme....
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Dear Experts,
We have a scenario where an SD condition type has been created which permits both positive & negative. However, the value goes into COPA only as Positive.
In KE4i we enabled the check box Transfer +/-, however the values doesn't flow correctly in COPA.
There is no issue with FI.
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Net is 2000, however in COPA it is updated as 4000. Both the above condition types are mapped to same GL and Value field.
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Dear Sarada,
I read the notes but still have a question -
In my case the sales order is type ZXX3 (return w/o reference). The customer makes order of the said type via VA01, then creates outbound delivery via VL01N, then releases billing block via VA02 and finally creates billing document via VF01.
In VA01 there are two condition types ZXX7(discount) - Rs 200 & ZXX8(discount margin) - Rs. 100 appearing with a negative sign in condition value. When the customer makes the billing document via VF01he manually enters one more condition type ZXX9 (extra discount / surcharge) + Rs. 50 ..for this scenario its sort of discount received back / surcharge). Hence in the billing document the above two conditions ZXX7 & ZXX8 are deducted and ZXX9 is added.(-200-100+50 = -250)
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I checked the transfer +/- checkbox in KE4I for ZXX7 & ZXX8 and then rechecked. The netting is being done but the negative sign does not appear now which is wierd. (250)
Can you let me know whether the values appearing in COPA after changing the setting are correct or not. I use ECC6
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MM Condition Types values flow COPA

Dear Gurus,
My client requirement is MM Condition Types Values Should flow to COPA like SD to COPA. I had seen a screen that KE4IM is there we can map our COPA Value Field and MM Condition Types. But I am not sure that values flow to COPA, Because No document will be generated in FI or other while doing PO.
Pl suggest me how can I fullfill this requirement.
Regards,
Balaji Bhonsle.

Hi,
If you read config doco for KE4IM you will find a statement:
"It is also possible to transfer conditions from MM to update billing data in pooled payment in the IS Retail system. These are transferred according to the same rules as SD conditions."
So KE4IM is only used in IS Retail. Are you IS Retail?
If not you probably want to bring conditions from purchase orders to CO-PA.
I agree with Ajay except for point 1.
You can actualy trigger CO-PA posting during goods receipt (and invoice receipt) for PO.
In order to achive it you need to activate "Purchase Accounting" in MM.
SPRO -> Marterials Management -> Valuation and Account Assignment -> Account Determination -> Account Determination without Wizard -> Purchase Account Management
Please read doco for Purchasing Account. In a nutshell when you activate it system will post addtional line item for GR and IR:
Purchasing account and Purchasing Offseting account for value of purchased nmaterial and also for delivery costs.
In table T030: Purchase account(EIN), purchase offsetting account (EKG), freight purchase account (FRE).
Define EIN and FRE as cost elements and map to profitability segment in OKB9. Leave EKG as P&L account (no cost element).
Then map cost elements to value fields in COPA.
Done.
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COPA and condition type

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I have a problem in CO-PA linked with condition type.
I have 2 condition types setup the same but link to different PA value.
KE4I has been assign CO-PA value for both condition types. One is working fine but another is not working becuase nothing post to that PA value.
Please advise, how to resolve this problem. Thank you very much.
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Hi
KIndly check the the cost elelment assigned to the PA structure which is not flowing the values---KA02
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I have a discrepancy between COPA and postings on the FI account. In COPA in transaction ke4i I have assigned the SD condition type VPRS - Internal price to the COPA value field VRPRS u2013 Stock Value.
The problem arises when the outbound delivery is split on several batches. In this case the condition type VPRS does not appear on the invoice for the split billing item and the amount 0 is loaded into to the COPA filed VRPRS for this billing item instead of value that should appear in the VPRS field. And this causes discrepancies between COPA and FI.
Do you know how to solve this problem? Is it possible to make the condition type VPRS always appear on the invoice, also in case when the delivery is sent in many batches?
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Welcome to the confusing world of Invoice *** batch split.. The situation you are facing is due to incorrect customization of your position types in SD during billing of the batch split. Plz check note 77414
You can grossly summarize it as below -
When you have batch split - the line items in Out bound delivery and biling can be divided into 2 types HPOS and UPOS i.e. Main Line items and Sub line items.. The note describes of 3 situations.. Your SD consultant will have to decide which situation you fall in... based on that config changes have to be made in SD....
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