Moving the Call Centres to back UK?

There were a number of suggestions a while ago that BT were likely to move at least some of the call centre work back to the UK. It seems to have gone quiet about this.
Having just had a long tussle with some of our Asian friends on behalf of a client (there was eventually a satisfactory outcome after a number of calls when I eventually got to speak to someone in the UK who solved the issue in a couple of hours), I wondered if anyone knows whether it is going to actually happen . . . ?

jjgraphics wrote:
You must have been very lucky with the BT Indian call centres.
Possibly, though I've only ever delt with them as a customer, and apparently not as often as you have. I can only speak as I find, as do you.
The quote from Sir Keith Watson, although historic, typifies the daft attitude in many businesses that price is the most important aspect of any service. It is not. Efficiency is most important and efficiency normally leads to lower costs. It is crazy to outsource these jobs to another country when we have people unemployed in the UK, many of whom would be pleased to have a call centre job.
My view is that if people could understand the call centre staff better and if the call centre staff were properly trained to do their job so that each problem was dealt with more efficiently and in a shorter time, far fewer staff would be needed and there would be no need to outsource the service to a country where a significant number of the staff are simply script readers have no real idea what they are doing.
All true, but all business owners/managers/company directors would disagree with you - the one's I've met anyway. Especially when it comes to price, and keeping business costs down, especially the costs of employing staff, or for that matter the costs of actually manufacturing a product in this country!
The key problem in this country has been that call centre jobs, like so many other jobs, are classed as a low paid, minimum wage, **bleep** job that no one really wants to do. Combine that with shift working, or unsociable hours, and you have a lethal cocktail that no UK worker will touch unless it's extremely well paid, their desperate to work, or the DHSS are forcing them to take the job at gunpoint! £5.80/hour simply won't cut it, and all you'll end up with is a high turnover of staff. And in that sort of working environment you can forget staff training! The people who are supposed to train either won't bother or only give you 5 minutes of their time and then watch you sink or swim. I mean, if this person is only going to stick around until they can get another job, or get pissed off and leave, or until they get knocked up by their spotty boyfriend and end up becoming a single mother living on benefits, what's the point in wasting the companies time, money and breath training this person? Plus, on top of that, you would also have to pay the UK employees national insurance, probably provide them with some sort of pension, maternity pay...
I saw this first hand, 15 years ago, in the electronics industry. This is why so many UK jobs have gone abroad. Employers simply can't get the quality of staff they perceive they want at the right price, plus the costs associated with running a business here are considered to be too high.
Sad, but true.
Does anyone know anything about the move of the call centres back to the UK?
Have you tried directly asking the moderators this question?

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    Very frustrated. We reported a fault with our phone (affects broadband also of course) 10 days ago. Huge amount of crackle on line, so bad we can't hear the other party, and piifully slow BB speeds or no connection at all. Line tests done by BT confirmed a fault 'between the exchange and the telegraph pole'. Fair enough. Told fault would be fixed by 2nd Feb. This came and went with no fix and no contact from BT. Phoned again. Was assured problem would be fixed 'that day'. Call centre phoned back a day later 'just to check the fault had been fixed'. No, it hasn't. How could it be? We live on a small island, we know when the BT engineers are about and nobody has been near us.
    Phoned again yesterday. Was again assured phone would be fixed that day (6th Feb). Again, it didn't happen. Phoned again today (Saturday 7th) and was told the reason it hadn't been fixed was that there had been a 'huge disaster locally'. Absolute piffle. I think we would know if there had been a disaster, and our neighbours' phones are all working fine. It's actually a lovely sunny day today. We have, however, had a lot of snow and rain recently and since our phone cables run along the side of the road there are often problems with 'weak joints' where the rain get in. We even know where these places are, and are 99% sure that it's a connection box at the top of our drive that is the location of the problem. It aslways is: we get this same problem several times a year.
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    I'm due a call back tomorrow between 12 and 1pm. Any suggestions of what I should say/ask when the lady says she's 'just checking that the line is working properly'??

    Hi gterry,
    I'm sorry about the problems with your line.  Please use the 'contact the mods' link in my forum profile under the 'about me' section to send in your details. You can find the link by clicking on my username.
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  • Call centre refuses to reset my password

    I want to cancel my account. Now spent possibly up to ten hours trying to communicate with Bt over this matter but they at the call centre cant be flexible and wont assist.
    I pay the account for phone + broadband monthly. But my father is on the bill as the account holder despite me trying over the years to alter this. He is now not only frail and has dementia but is also blind. There is no understanding here. I look after him, I live with him and I take care of his affairs. I pay the bills with my account diligently each month
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    This is a living nightmare. I dont want to spend anymore of my precious time or money trying relentlessly to do this simple action.
    I feel totally ripped off by Bt as the problem isnt sorted and I dont think this is probably offering a good service but actually taking my money for goods that arent recieved, can anyone advise on this.
    I am so frustrated I feel the only way to be free of all this stress is to cancel the accoutn but I wont be able to do that as they want to speak to my father as Im not good enough apparently.
    Madness, who made up these Draconian rules????????????
    All I actually want to do is to be able to use the broadband connection vian btwifi when Im out and I need to reset the password. But as previously explained I cant as they wont let me carry on with the phone call as Im not my father, who cant communicate anymore.................

    Shhhh wrote:
    I want to cancel my account. Now spent possibly up to ten hours trying to communicate with Bt over this matter but they at the call centre cant be flexible and wont assist.
    I pay the account for phone + broadband monthly. But my father is on the bill as the account holder despite me trying over the years to alter this. He is now not only frail and has dementia but is also blind. There is no understanding here. I look after him, I live with him and I take care of his affairs. I pay the bills with my account diligently each month
    BUT bt still wont let me access my account online to login and change my now unusable locked out password.
    This is a living nightmare. I dont want to spend anymore of my precious time or money trying relentlessly to do this simple action.
    I feel totally ripped off by Bt as the problem isnt sorted and I dont think this is probably offering a good service but actually taking my money for goods that arent recieved, can anyone advise on this.
    I am so frustrated I feel the only way to be free of all this stress is to cancel the accoutn but I wont be able to do that as they want to speak to my father as Im not good enough apparently.
    Madness, who made up these Draconian rules????????????
    All I actually want to do is to be able to use the broadband connection vian btwifi when Im out and I need to reset the password. But as previously explained I cant as they wont let me carry on with the phone call as Im not my father, who cant communicate anymore.................
    Hi Welcome to the forums.
    Sorry to hear about your situation.
    If I may be frank initially, it makes sense thar the account holder with any security answers are used to ascertain the owner of the account. It's not really draconian as it could be abused by anyone knowing some (but not all) of the details.
    However, you say you take control of his affairs - do you actually have Power of Attorney in this sad situation ? If you do then the appropriate document needs to be sent to the correct BT department in order for you to control the phone etc. Sorry I don't know where you would send this, but a moderator would be able to help here.
    If you don't have PoA, then it might be worth considering, and needs to be discussed with any other family members. This will help in all sorts of areas, e.g. bank accounts, utilities etc. I don't expect they mind who actually pays the money, but the account holder needs to be validated.
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