MSI Customer Service; Problematic R7970 BE Experience! Faulty Replacement Card!

G'day their,
In December-January I went to go build a new computer consisting of 2x MSI R7970 Lightning BE graphics cards; these cards in my opinion we're amazing! Little did I know of the quality of these products...
Upon putting my 2x 7970's in crossfire, I experienced catastrophic amounts of artifacting (at 67+ Celsius GPU Temp), I then narrowed this problem down to one of the graphics cards (The other card works FLAWLESSLY) – I called up MSI, explained my situation, they got me to RMA the card, I sent out the card for the RMA at the start of January.
Two days later, I get an email from MSI Australia saying that one of the fans on the graphics cards we're broken – they also told me, the piece broken off the fan was not found in the packaging, thought that was extremely odd and unusual. They offered me a deal, to pay $165 to replace the fan on the graphics card and send me a "NEW" R7970 Lightning BE, to fix the initial artifcating problem I had – thought OK, what the heck, went through with it.
Last Thursday (14/3/13) I got a "new" replacement R7970 Lightning BE – opened it up, took out my other 7970 in the computer out, put this "new" one in. All was hunky dory, turned the computer on, no video was being displayed from the graphics card – the graphics card's fan was just running at full speed, no activity from the card. I then placed the graphics card in another PCI-E slot, nothing, placed it in another computer, nothing... At this point I was furious.
I took the card out, put my other 7970 in, worked flawlessly. Looked closely at the 7970 I got sent, and found that it was dinted on the side:
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Not only that, the card's heat-sinks we're also loose.
The quality of the card was appalling, looked to be second hand.
Clearly showing graphics cards fans upon purchasing:
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I'm honestly gob-smacked. What do you guys think I should do? Contact MSI Australia yet again?
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
David.

Quote from: Froggy Gremlin on 16-March-13, 14:45:57
Absolutely! It sounds like you are able to control your anger pretty well, but be firm with them and request they not only RMA the card, but pay for shipping 'both' directions. You should not have to pay for the return.
Hahaha! I've tried really hard too keep cool!
I have prepared an e-mail, and this is what I have written thus far - should I even send an e-mail, or just call them, or both?
Hello Asif,
Upon you're instruction, I have installed the 'replacement' R7970 Lightning BE into my system - yet it does not work! When turning the computer on, no video is outputted - there is no activity from the graphics card, not even the blue LED's on top of the graphics card illuminate - all that happens, is that the fan's on the card are running at full speed. I installed my other R7970 Lightning BE, and works flawlessly! No problems what so ever! I took out the 'replacement' R7970 Lightning BE and found that a pipe on the side was damaged - dinted (you can see this in the pictures attached) and the heat sink on the graphics card is loose compared to my other R7970 Lightning BE, on top of that, the graphics card looks appalling, as if it's second hand. I also noticed that when I took the 'replacement' card out, it was rather hot, for running for 10 seconds, much hotter in comparison to my other R7970 Lightning BE graphics card. I was assured, by you, at the start of January, when you spoke to me of a replacement card, that it would be a 'new' card, you never stated that it will be a 'refurbished' version, even so, if this card worked correctly, as a 'refurbished' card, I would not be fussed anyways. I'm simply gutted and appalled that I received a completely faulty 'replacement' card, after waiting for 2 and a half months; where all I want is a card that functions properly and flawlessly, just as my other MSI R7970 Lightning BE does! I did not spend $1200 on 2x R7970 Lightning BE's to be presented with faults! I will contact you on Monday in regards to this issue.
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(The card on the left is my 'replacement' card - dinted, the card on the right is the other R7970 Lightning BE card I had originally)
Regards,
David.
By the way, thanks heaps for you're speedy response! Much appreciated!

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  • New Customer - Have had MISERABLE experience with Verizon service and Customer service

    I am a brand new customer of Verizon Fios and so far I have zero good things to say about it.  If it wasn't for the aggrevation of switching cable companies, I most definitely would go back to Comcast.
    I moved into a new home in the middle of April.  The previous owner had Verizon Fios in this house, so there was minimal installation that had to be done when I initially set up my cable.  My house was pretty much empty at the time, so we had the TV's set up where we had a place to put it (upstairs, kitchen, and living room).  We recently bought bedroom furniture, so we could now move the TV to where we initially wanted it, in our bedroom.  However when we tried to hook it up to an outlet, no picture came though.  This is when my awful experience with verizon customer service (or lack there of) began.
    I took time out of my work day to call Verizon about this problem.  I was on hold for about 30 mins until I actually heard a human's voice.  He was unable to help me since I was not at home to unplug and plug things back in. 
    I called again when I was home, this time I was on hold for about 20 mins (wow)... the first person could not help me, so she transferred me to another department... put on hold for 35 mins.... this perosn couldnt help me either and they transferred me back to the SAME DEPARTMENT I WAS INITIALLY TRANSFERRED FROM.... put on hold for about 45 mins... finally i speak with someone that knows what they are talking about.  Of course I have to go through all the same steps that I did the first time which did not work.  As this person decides I need a technician, he begins to look up available dates... and then after an hour and 35 mins on the phone, it gets disconnected!  I wait for 5 minutes to get a call back but I get NOTHING.  I spent now 2 hours trying to deal with this and verizon doesnt even call me back when its their phone that gets disconnected? Thats terrible.
    I call back after 10 mins and am put on hold right away (obviously).... after 25 mins of being on hold, shocker - the call is disconnected again.
    That was enough for one day
    I call back again the next day... same old thing... put on hold for 30 mins, talk to one person who cant help me, transferred to another department and put on hold for 20 more mins.
    Finally with the tech department who says they are going to schedule a tech to come out to fix the problem but also mentioned they are going to charge me $55 for this! Are you kidding me?????? Verizon wastes about 4 hours of my life and busy day and then has the nerve to say they are going to charge me for it? I asked the person several times if I could speak with a manager or supervisor, they never let me.  I asked multiple times and she just said that they wouldnt be able to help me and that the charge would stick.
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    I did call them this morning, and still on the phone.
    I will say this - the reps are very friendly and do try to help in earnest.  That's been my experience overall with Verizon.  So in terms of the actual people, I give them an A+.
    In terms of their system and how they process things, they get a big fat F.   The very idea that I sent back a phone with accessories and their warehouse only registered the return of the phone pretty much says that there is something fishy going on there at the warehouse.   And it took an hour to sort this out so far and counting.
    The thing that bugs me about Verizon is how complicated it is to get everything straightened out.  
    Right now, they are trying to sort out the activation fee - I already have been charged one and now they are trying to figure out if i have to pay another one.   Another 15 minutes just on that.
    Everything has been resolved.   Thankfully, Verizon's saving grace is that their reps are nice people.

  • Verizon Wireless Network Extender and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Customer Service experience

    It was a dark and stormy night...
    For the past eight years, I had been happy with Verizon wireless service. Great coverage and rarely a dropped call. However, all of that changed when I moved into a lovely mid-century modern condominium. The solid concrete walls and ceilings were blocking my attempts to communicate with the outside world (i.e. order pizza).
    Enter the Verizon Wireless Network Extender! My own personal cell tower! Alas, the VWNE was $250, which was a lot of money. So, being the resourceful recycling advocate that I am, I procured a refurbished one and hooked it up to my network. Then I called Verizon to begin what would soon become one of the Bottom 10 Least Enjoyable Experiences in customer service history (note: obvious foreshadowing).
    The first technician I spoke with was Benjamin, who was actually quite helpful. He noted the VWNE's MAC address and other information before attempting to allow me to access my unit. But he could not. Why? Apparently the unit was still registered to another Verizon customer. He told me the matter would be forwarded to "Verizon Correspondence Support" who would contact the registered owner and get their approval to reassign the unit.
    A week later, I called in to ask about the status of my request, but was told by Darryl (another tech from the VWNE department) that the "Verizon Correspondence Support" department did not exist. Did. Not. Exist? Fine, I explained the situation again, and Darryl eventually told me he would submit a special access form which may resolve the problem. He apologized for the mixup, thanked me for my patience, and told me to wait 24-48 hours for his return call with the results.
    120 hours later, I called to ask about the status of the change access form because I had not received a callback. Michelle, another representative of VWNE support, told me there was no record of this form having been submitted. No. Record...? After which, she made no effort to help me after reading through my transcript. In fact, quite the opposite. To paraphrase...
    "I'm sorry we wasted two weeks of your time leading you to believe we had a solution. Actually, there is no Verizon Correspondence Department, there is no special access form, and no tech will be calling you back. Furthermore, I will not allow you to use our unit because the previous owner hasn't filled out Release Form 27B stroke 6. For all I know it might have been stolen. Perhaps by you? I guess we'll never know for sure, because I won't contact the owner for any reason. In fact, there is nothing I can do to help you whatsoever. But if you like, feel free to throw our network adapter in a landfill. Thank you and have a nice day."
    OK Michelle, here's the deal. I don't even WANT this doohickey. You see, all I want is for my phone to work. That's why I am calling you. To get THIS piece of your equipment working, at my expense, so that I can continue to be a Verizon customer. Seems like I'm doing my part. Why is this so difficult?
    "Sorry"
    Lesson of the story? DON'T BE A MICHELLE. If a customer is in trouble and you can't solve his/her problem, contact a supervisor and work out an alternative. In my example, perhaps Verizon could have provided me with an "official" VWNE? At a discount? Or have a technician sent out to examine the signal? Really, *anything* is better than being brushed off. After being brushed off.
    After being brushed off.

    Follow up: I acquired another VWNE from a local seller, just in case he had to be contacted for the Nuclear Priority Phone Release Code (geez). Ironically, it wasn't necessary, because said fellow had already left Verizon after too many negative customer service issues. Oops.
    The good news is that Verizon was able to properly activate the second unit. I was connected to a VWNE tech named Bertha who was VERY helpful and treated me like a human being. Which made all the difference and restored my faith in humanity. I requested that my story be relayed to upper management so that the hordes of secondhand VWNE buyers wouldn't also get burned by Verizon's "hands off and look elsewhere" policy. Bingo. Finally. Done.
    Epilogue: Until Verizon eases up on their needlessly stringent policy, beware the unchecked VWNE! Be sure to get the MAC code and check it with a local store/tech support before buying it.

  • Worst customer service experience I have ever had.

    I have never felt so disrespected by a company in my entire life. Their customer service is beyond terrible, as anyone can see by reading the various posts from frustrated customers on this forum.
    I ordered a laptop on November 30th as a present for a family member's birthday but, when I saw that the shipping date would be later than than the actual birthday, I emailed them to cancel the order. Most modern companies give you a cancel option right on the site but not Lenovo ... you have to email them. Fine (I thought), it's a little less convenient but what the heck? I then called the next day to confirm the cancellation, just to make sure, and was told that the cancellation would probably be processed the next week, on tuesday, and that I would get an email to confirm. That email never came. I called back a couple of days later and a different rep told me that they were still waiting for the warehouse to confirm the cancellation and that it could still take a couple of days. Ok, fine, I guessed I would have to wait a bit but it would surely go through in time since the cancellation process was started almost immediately after the order. I didn't receive any other emails so I emailed again, and again ... and again and never once got a reply. I even emailed one of the reps I spoke to on the phone directly since she gave me her own direct email address (a nice gesture, I thought ...) but she never replied, either. Then, to my surprise, I find out that they actually shipped the unit on December 5th, even though my account must've been full of notes detailing my various emails and calls (if they even keep those on record like any reputable company would but... who knows?). I finally receive the **bleep** laptop by mail after all this! Like all the calls and emails had been completely ignored! I suppose they do this on purpose, betting that the customer will be too lazy to return it.
    I start chargeback proceedings with my credit card company just to make sure I don't get screwed but I cancel them when I see that they finally replied to my request for a return label (the first, last and only reply I ever got from them) so I cancel the chargeback, thinking that this crappy experience will soon be over.
    They received the unit on December 30th. I never even opened the box it came in, so I know it's 100% working and not damaged so their should be no delay caused by their quality check. Still, here we are, January 10th and no refund. Still not getting any replies to my emails either. Calling them is, of course, useless since you either can't get through, are transferred to another department that has no clue on the issue, are told they will get in touch with you later or to just wait for calls and emails that never come. Meanwhile, I’m paying interest on a purchase I cancelled minutes after the order, not the mention the initial charge still on my account. So now I have no laptop, they have my money and any attempt to reach them is ignored.
    Now I have to write this long and boring post on a public forum just to get a reply (I see that hey at least reply to these, sometimes ...). I am way beyond the end of my rope here so, if anyone from lenovo reads this, get in touch with me NOW so we can finally resolve this matter.
    Solved!
    Go to Solution.

    They finally e-mailed me yesterday, telling me that they will check with their billing department and get back to me. The thing is, they told me the same thing over the phone and in the support chat before and they never ever get back to me. We are now well beyond the regular delay for a refund so isn't this outright theft, at this point? What do I do? Call the cops? Get a lawyer? I'm afraid to issue a chargeback because people have been screwed before with lenovo refunding them way late, causing the cc company to reverse the chargeback and then Lenovo, being brain dead as they are and thinking the chargeback still went through, cancelled the refund, leaving the client with no money and no product.
    I hope potential customers will read this forum and avoid Lenovo like the plague. Lenovo really are a bunch of heartless crooks.

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    Other than what Shotist007's remarks (which solves nothing) your experience is not common. First I would speak to the store manager to get things rectified for you. If that doesn't work out then I would contact AppleCare and speak to a customer service representative and complain via that venue.

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