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hello all
In MTO process we created sales order , with referance to SO the purcase order is created, in po there are 5 line items, problem is for the 2 line items in the po acoount assignement have been maintained but for the rest of the 3 line items in the po the account assignement is not maintained. any one can through some light on this issue
thanks in advance.

If you use MRP to create the PR, check "Ind/coll" indicator in MRP 4 View. For SO account assignment it should not be "2".

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Error in MIGO of Subcon PO in MTO scn, not triggering Movement type 543/E

Dear Consultants,
I am trying to perform Goods receipt against a Subconctracting PO, in a MTO scenario. The components are linked to Sales Order (Special Stock - E). I have maintained '0' in the Individual / Coll requirements field in the MRP 4 view of the component.
So after creation of PO(Subcon), I am trying to perform MIGO - without issuing components to vendor as 541/E movement type for componenets is not allowed in standard.
While performing MIGO I am getting the error no stock available with vendor, the system is trying to trigger 543/O movement type whereas I am expecting 543/E to be triggered for the components.
I am also not able to perform 311/411 E movement type for the components as they are linked to WIP Batch.
Can anyone sujjest if there is a way by which the MIGO should trigger 543/E during MIGO.
Thanks
Arindam.

Hi
i donr think the movement type 543 E will trigger as the subcontracting only supports 543 O in standard , you need to do customizing as follows
Also check in SPRO > Logistics - General > Tax on Goods Movements > India > Business Transactions > Subcontracting > Maintain Movement Type Groups > here for Movement Type Group "0002", Movement Type "543 E" should be maintained.
just check following link for the subcontracting with sales order ,
[Sub Con 1|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_470/helpdata/en/4d/2b90b043ad11d189410000e829fbbd/content.htm]
[subcon 2|Subcontracting for project stock;

MTO e MTS no mesmo Material

Para entender todo o contexto, antes deem uma olhada na discussão abaixo.
Production in specific plant
O cenário da discussão anterior funcionou. Agora preciso saber se é possível configurarmos o material para se comportar da seguinte forma:
Obs.: para simplificar o cenário, vamos continuar com o foco em apenas dois centros: 1000 (que demanda) e 1800 (que produz).
- Para o material ABC, eu posso ter produção MTO (configurada) e também MTS (a partir de um ponto de reabastecimento). A produção MTO foi a que discutimos neste fórum e vimos que funcionou corretamente (o centro 1000 gera a demanda, e o centro 1800 produz, transferindo o estoque para o 1000 no final da produção). Gostaria de saber se tem como configurarmos esse material para disparar uma ordem planejada assim que o ponto de reabastecimento for atingido no centro 1000 (neste caso, a produção não é configurada, apesar de o material estar marcado como configurável).
Eu alterei o tipo de MRP do centro 1000 para VB e indiquei o ponto de reabastecimento. Porém quando rodei o MRP ele gerou a ordem planejada mas não deixou converter para ordem de produção. Foi gerada a exceção "52" (Não foi selecionada qq LisTéc)... como não foi selecionada uma LT, a ordem planejada não está com o campo "Código de conversão" marcado.
Obs.: o Grp.Estratégias do material é 20 (produção sob encomenda), mas esse grupo está configurado para aceitar a estratégia 40 também.
Saberiam me dizer o que pode estar errado?
Desde já, obrigado!
Willian.

Boa tarde Jean,
Não posso te passar mais detalhes no momento, mas o comportamento do programa é o esperado.
Solicite que a sua equipe fiscal leia a respeito no Guia Prático. A nota deve ser escriturada integralmente.
O que diferencia os itens (para contabilização do bloco M) neste caso é o CST.
Ex. (verifique os CSTs corretos com sua equipe fiscal):
Item 10 CST 98
Item 20 CST 54
Na escrituração dos registros F120/F130, ao escriturar o crédito relativo ao Item 10 você usa um CST de crédito (54, por exemplo).
Att.,
Charles

MTO...OH on sales order

Hi Experts,
Client is follwing MTO with non valuted sales order stock, after completion of production the production order is setteled to respective sales order.
EX: Production cost: 100 rs. has been setteled to sales order, on this 100 and other rs 20 rs directly posted to sales order. Here i want to caluculate OH 120 rs....i have asigned Costing sheet in Sales order, i am trying to caluculate OH, those values are not updating in the sales order level....
Please someone help....
Thanks,
Chandu

Hi,
You can settle to sales order with T.Code VA88.
Regarding OH, check the validity period and OH Rates and also credit details of respectiv oh Key.
Thanks.
S.Subbiah.

MTO (Production order) & MTO (Sale order)

What would be the end user activity in Controlling (CO) module for both MTO production and sale order scenarios in terms of planned and actual costing point of view? (Kindly mention T-Codes as well)
I think in sales order scenario the sale order act as a CO object and collect both the revenue and costs itself. The order closing activity will be performed by SD user and so nothing will be done by CO user at the end for actual cost and in the planning phase only the activities needed to be planned on production cost center by the CO user. How and where to run the cost estimate if the process is triggered by the SD user and how to settle variances if the SD user is closing the order?
N.B. Material Ledger is not activated and costing is done without variant configuration and the MRP is yet to be decided so let me know in both of the cases (i.e. with and without MRP)
Thanks

Hi SK,
Make to Stock & Make to Order scenario functionality rational in terms of Fundamentals, only the difference of Cost Object is different which cost will determine to calculate.
Month end Activity for both MTS & MTO will perform by CO users (where as in MTO all cost activity will consumed wit relate to SD process against SO wise..i.e @posting level in SD side)
The following month end activity T Code listed out.
Make to Stock
Make to Order
Template Allocation
CPTJ - Template Allocation
CPTA - Individual Processing (Single)
VAN1 - Revaluation at Actual Prices
CPTD - Collective Processing (Multiple)
VA44 - Overhead
Revaluation at Actual Prices
Results Analysis
MFN1 - Individual Processing (Single)
KKA3 - Individual Processing
CON2 - Collective Processing (Collective)
KKAK - Collective Processing
Overhead
Settlement
KGI2 - Individual Processing
VA88 - Settlement
CO43 - Collective Processing
Preliminary Settlement for Co-Products, Rework
CO8B - Individual Processing
CO8A - Collective Processing
Work in Process
KKAX - Calculate (Single)
KKAO - Calculate (Collective)
Variances
KKS2 - Individual Processing
KKS1 - Collective Processing
Settlement
KO88 - Individual Processing
CO88 - Collective Processing

How can we assign a different scope of planning in MTO scenario?

Hi,
We are using MTO scenario. In this case, during sales order creation checking control AE is getting triggered. We want to use a different scenario during rescheduling transaction. But as per my analysis, V_V2 is also calling the same AE checking control eventhough we assigned a different checking control for Back order processing.
In this case, can we assign a different checking control (scope of check) for back order processing?
Regards.

Let me explain my requirement here....
This is a kind of trading or sub-contracting. Initially we will give the forecast to vendor...but Vendor will start the finished product production only after getting the confirmed order from us. Hence we thought to use strategy 50. So we will create a PO to Vendor only after getting a confirmed sales order from customer.
But in strategy 50 ATP confirmation is based on PIR. Hence we created a new requirement class (copy of 45 with ATP active). So in this new strategy ATP is against actual receipts instead of PIRs.
But sometimes Vendor may not be able to supply as per lead-time...and he may postpone the delivery date. In this case we are getting exception message 10 for the PO...even though PO is specific to a sales order. Still rescheduling job (V_V2) is not populating the new confirmation date as it is referring to the TRLT.
Hence we want to use ATP based on TRLT during sales order creation. And during rescheduling we want to use a different scope of check ('without TRLT' and with 'No storage location check'). Hence we created a new checking rule for rescheduling and this we assigned for that specific plant.
As per my observation, rescheduling job is not picking the scope of check that is assigned for rescheduling....it is calling the same checking rule AE during rescheduling also.
So my question here is... can we call a different scope of check during rescheduling run while using make to order strategy?
Regards.

Re: Error while making a Process order in MTO scenario

Hi All,
I am having a secnario, where I am using MTO scenario. I want that the sales order should trigger the process order.The components in the BOM for the FG material .
1. Raw material: procured from outside: Stock & value relevent.
2. This one is non valuated one :procured from outside: Stock & Non-value relevent.
Now when I create a sales order, I can see a plan order in the MD04 scree for this FG . But on drilling down this plan order I can only create the PR for the 1st component only ,for the second component I cant create anything.
The second item should be non valuated & stock relevent.
Please help me in this regards,
Vivek

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Error While doing settlement for Sale Order in MTO scenario

Hi,
In MTO Scenario - when i try to settle Sales Order i am getting the below error. Even i have maintained the settlement cost element for PSG in allocation structure A1.
Kindly help me
Define a settlement cost element for receiver type PSG
Message no. KD506
Diagnosis
In allocation structure A1 (controlling area BP01), you did not define which cost element should be used when settling costs/revenues of the sender. Nor did you define receiver type PSG.
Procedure
Assign a different allocation structure to the settlement sender (-> Master data -> Settlement rule -> Goto -> Settlement parameters), or maintain allocation structure A1.
Thanks
Kishore

Hi
Please check your allocation structure , it looks that settlement cost element that you have assigned in the allocation strcuture is not having correct cost element category.
Go to Allocation structure configuration (OKO6) and check your allocation structure A1.
check settlement cost elements is it by cost element or you have assigned separate cost element for settlement.
if you wants to settle with same cost element select By cost element.
if you wants to settle with different cost element create a cost element and assign settlement cost element.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_di46c2/helpdata/EN/9d/1f4b6e5733d1118b3f0060b03ca329/frameset.htm
hope this helps you.
Regards

GR in case of MTO scenario

Hello All
        In case of MTO (Planning strategy 20) when we run the MRP we have planned order agianst sales order & we convert planned order to Production order, I want to know that in case of MTO if we look at the GR tab page of the production order the GR Non-Valuated checkbox is ticked, & if we see the help of the same field it says:
Goods Receipt, Non-Valuated
Specifies that the goods receipt for this item is not to be valuated.
Dependencies
This indicator is only relevant to production orders, projects and and configurable materials with account assignment to a sales order.
      I want to know why this checkbox is checked in case of MTO.
      I want that this shall not be checkmarked in case of MTO scenario I want that if GR is done against a production order which is of MTO scenario, then GR shall be of valuated. Kindly suggest what all settings have to be done for the same.
Regards,
J K Tharwani

Thanks R Brahmankar for your valuable inputs,
         I did some changes in customizing under CO node of which the path is as under:
         SPRO>Controlling>Product cost controlling>Product cost by Sales Order>Control of Sales Order related Production-->Check requirement class.
        I made the changes in the following fields:
   Field                      Default Value               Changes
   Valuation               Blank                           M (Separate valuation with ref. to sales document/project)
   Settlement Profile   SD1                            PP01
Result analysis key 000004                       Blank
      After doing the above changes I created a sales order & did the MRP run I converted the planned order to production order & then I got under GR tab page of production order the check box for "GR Non-valuated" as unckecked. I want to cross check if the changes I have made are OK as per the requirement. Waiting for your valuable inputs.
Regards,
J K Tharwani

Can we use free goods in MTO,thirdparty

Hi,
We cannot use free goods in MTO,thirdparty processing,
do we have any sap documents supporting it,can u pls provide.
Regards
SR

Hi
Free goods are only supported for sales orders with document category C (for example, not quotations).
Free goods are not supported for deliveries without reference to a sales order.
Free goods cannot be used in make-to-order production, third-party order processing and scheduling agreements.
Free goods can only be supported on a 1:1 ratio. This means that an order item can lead to a free goods item. Agreements in the following form are not supported: u2018With material 1, material 2 and material 3 are free of chargeu2018 or u2018If material 1 and material 2 are ordered at the same time, then material 3 is free of chargeu2018.
These are the SAP LIBRARY STATEMENTS
So not possible in MTO and third party
Regards
Raja

No Accounting Document generated for goods issue in case of MTO scenario

Hi all,
I have MTO scenario & the industry is trading. So I have all trading goods. In SPRO - Sales & Distribution - Availability Check and Transfer of Requirements - Transfer of Requirements - Determination Of Requirement Types Using Transaction I have determined requirement type as KE.
In material master I have used strategy group as 20 for Make to order scenario. In the settings "Determination Of Requirement Types Using Transaction" I have determined the requirement type as "KE".
The requirement type "KE" determines a requirement class "040 - MkToOrdNoValW/o cons". Here the account assignment category is "E-Ind. cust. w. KD-CO".
Now I created a sales order, the system determined the requirement type as "KE". I saved the sales order, assigned the stock to the sales order & created a delivery.
I did the PGI also. But when I check in the document flow, for the material document the system has not generated any FI document where we see the accounting document for the "cost of goods sold" & "inventory" G/L accounts. The system gives a message "Material document 4900000023 does not include an accounting document".
Note:
1. When I create the sales order with normal MTS scenario, the system creates an accounting document for the material document at the time of goods issue.
2. The valuation class in the material is 3100 for trading goods.
3. The following settings have been made in OBYC.
for GBB, the G/L accounts have been assigned for general modifier "BSA", "VAX", "VAY" & "VKA".
Please suggest me as to where i am missing any settings.
With best regards,
Niyaz Sayyed.

Dear Niyaz Sayyed
You need to check in the following areas:-
- check whether the material is defined as non-valuated stock
- go to OME9, select your Account Assignment and see whether you have checked the box "GR non-valuated". It should not have been checked
thanks
G. Lakshmipathi

How to Copy Cost Estimate from Quotation to Sales Order in MTO Scenario

Hi,
We are working on a MTO scenario- Sales order Costing with Valuated Stock.
And our case we are creating the Cost Estimate at the time of Quotation using PP qty structure. Now we wan to transfer the cost estimate to Sales Order as we don't want to recost the sales order.
Currenty it's transferring only the EK01 condition as total planned costs in Sales order but we want to see the itemization also.
Please suggest is there any way to transfer this cost estimate with itemization from Quotation to Sales Order.
Regards
venkat

Hi
As far as I know the CO esimate does not get copied from Quotation to Sales Order
You need to recost the SO again.. If your Qty Structure has not changed between Quotation to SO and your valuation variant is also the same - it would give the same result
br, Ajay M

MTO - For logistics purpose - Effect in COPA

Hi,
We have a MTO scenario maintained for logistics purpose. A production order is created with reference to a Sales Order, wherein 2 or more FG are fabricated. These FG are issued to sales order as special stock. Consumption of FG is posted at time of such issue.
Header material for the production order does not have any cost.. neither MAP nor Std cost as the inputs for such material are variable.
Sales order is created with reference to this header material. Sales order costing is not done.
Now we have to implement COPA, how would the COGS can be captured for this sales order. VPRS condition cannot find anything.. neither Valuation as no std cost estimate
Please give your valuable suggestions.

Hi,
the given situation is just like another Make to stock scenario except that it will have products tracking to
Sale Order.
in this case, you must have Standard cost estimate being done and released to Material master. without that, the process does not completed.
In this case only VPRS condition type need to carry the cost to COPA (nothing else).
Please change the understanding of the people about this scenario.
Best Regards
Surya

Change in Sales Order Qty in a MTO scenario

Hi,
We had confirmed 5 Qty for the Production Order created with reference to Sales ORder(MTO scenario), now after confirmation of 5 qty, sales order qty is reduced to 3., then in this situation, what we need to do for the already confirmed extra Quantity 2 for this sales order. I think we need to cancel the confirmation for the extra qty 2?. Please clarify and explain what we need to do this for this extra Qty 2 in detail.
Case 2) If the Sales Order qty is changed to 7, then we will be creating a new Production Order for this new quantity 2 with reference to the same sales order. Am i correct?.IF wrong, please suggest how should we balance the extra requirement of 2 EA.
Thanks in advance.

Is your query being posted even before you actually tried the 2 cases which you refer to in your system?
If so, then first do the simulation in your sandbox, check how system behaves when you do that. Also check by clicking on ATP check for the material within SO.
Once you do the above your query will be self answered, if you still face any issue then revert with the specific details.

Special MTO Scenario - Costing Issues

Hi,
Not sure if I should post it here or in the FI / CO forum, but here it is ...
I'm in the process of implementing APO in a Aerospace company in Montréal, Canada and we're stuck on an Account Assignment Planning, and Product Costing issue.
Today, all demand / production / movements / costing is done by creating a Project Network.
Here are the current settings:
- Create a project with activities for each major "line section" for major components.
- Each activity has a component allocated to it
- Each activity has a different WBS element assigned to it.
- All production orders/purchase orders/goods movements are created/posted against the WBS elements.
- All stock for MTO parts are assigned to the WBS element
In order to provide better integration with APO and bring more flexibility in the Planning and Simulation processes, we were hoping to stop using Project Networks as the trigger for demand / planning / execution. The idea was to use Sales Orders (or Customer Independent Requirements - CIR) to generate the demand and run APO and MRP planning from it. The special stock segment now becomes linked to the sales order (or CIR) which changes alot of thing in the accounting documents and costs elements in the whole planning and execution processes.
Here is what we were hoping to achieve in order to limit impacts on finance :
- we are implementing APO and would like planning to be performed without using project networks.
- we would like to have planned orders for the top level for long term and be able to trigger the purchasing of long lead time items.
- we would like all goods movements (PO reception, GI to production order etc, ) to be posted to WBS elements
- we would like all production orders to settle to WBS elements
We tried different scenarios with different account assignments categories, but could not find one that fits the bill :
1) we tried using account assignment category "D" which allows assignment to sales order and WBS element. We created CIR as demand.
The problem is the stock is non-valuated which resulted in having no accounting documents for goods issue to production order.
2) we tried account assignment category "Q" with using CIR as demand. We had one WBS element assignment in the CIR. When we changed the WBS value in planned orders to represent each "line section" we ended up with duplicate demand in the original segment and the new segment.
So, is there a scenario with valuated stock that would allow us to do a make-to-order process that would post all costs to WBS?
Thanks,
Marc

Hi, sorry for the title confusion ... I cannot change it anymore.
I'm not sure I understand what you are proposing.
In our case, the problem is not really linked to the CIFing to APO but more on the Account Assignment Category in ECC and the Customer / Project Stock Segment in MRP.
Since we have a multiple level BOM and that the intermediate levels need to be associate with different WBS element according to major parts of the aircraft.
Here is an example :
Aicraft -- Has its own BOM with major parts as sub assemblies,
Major Parts -- Each Major Parts needs to be linked to a different WBS for costing purpose.
Minor Sub Assemblies -- All cost of producing the Minor Sub Assemblies should be tracked inside the Major Parts WBS.
Components -- All components costs and accounting documents should be tracked inside the Major Parts WBS.
We know that by using a project Network for the Aircraft Level we could create activities for each Major Parts with different WBS, but since we want to do planning in APO, we were hoping to not use PS has a scheduling basis. The integration of PS in APO is still not used a lot and the flexibility of Projects in planning processes is not great.
In resume, we are trying to create the demand from a Sales Order or CIR, but manage costs and accounting documents within WBS for all level in order to limit impacts on the Finance Department.

Several Return orders with Ref. to one MTO Billing Document.

Hi,
I am doing RE with ref. to MTO Billing Document but i am able to issue "N" number of credit memo's with ref. to same MTO.
Please tell me the Controll, that stops raising the second RE order with ref. to same MTO.
I checked copy controls completion rule in Item catagory but still the problem not solved.
Waiting for reply
Veera.

Dear Veera,
The issue is related to the copy control settings only , so you go to VTAF transaction then go in to the item details of your return order type and MTO Billing document type.
Here you can find the field positive/negative quantity you maintain that as '-' negative.
Now you try
I hope it will help you
Regards,
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