Multiple 261 movements allowed over required qty in work order

Does anyone know why 2, 261 movements can be performed for the same components in a work order using MIGO? The transactions were performed within 2 seconds apart. Is it possible that SAP didnt update the work order within those 2 seconds?
I have tried to duplicate this issue and I keep getting the correct message that I cannot perform over the required qty.

It has to do with the configuration setting for the order type, verifty
confirmation parameters for the given order type (at the header level)
Under checks tab(Tcode: OPK4), it should be maintained as
" Error when overdelivery tolerance is not checked"
If you maintain the above setting, he system would not allow you to do excess Goods Issue (mvt type 261) for the given work order
Please come back if you have further ?s
Edited by: Eshwer . on Jan 24, 2009 4:42 PM

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