Negative delivery costs when releagins PO

Hi all,
When I am releasing a PO in t.code ME29N, I am getting the error 'Negative delivery costs not allowed'. First of all, why did the system apportion a negative delivery cost to one line item in my PO?
Second, how do I correct this error and go proceed normally?
Note my PO has several line items. And the delivery cost has been entered as a golbal amount. It is the system which does the apportionment.
Thanks for ur help.
Nas

Hi,
PLease check which condition is causing this error and change "rounding rule" to B. If this does not solve the error, I would recommend that you open a ticket at SAP.
Best Regards,
Arminda Jack

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Negative delivery costs not allowed

Hi Experts,
In the below situation I am getting message like 'Negative delivery costs not allowed'.Please
give your suggestions.
There is a PO line item which I want to check the 'Delivery completion indicator' But when I am
going to change mode of the PO, in that line item delivery costs are coming in negative & samething
is shown in PO header condition tab as well.
So system throws message that ' PO Header still faulty'. 'Negative delivery costs not allowed'.
Please suggest how to overcome this problem.
Regards,
Partha

Hi,
PLease check which condition is causing this error and change "rounding rule" to B. If this does not solve the error, I would recommend that you open a ticket at SAP.
Best Regards,
Arminda Jack

Negative delivery cost

when i make a deletion for line item in a PO it gives me message
"Negative delivery costs not allowed"
please advice

Check if you have any net discount at header level, so the new total of the PO is negative, and delivery cost resulting from a formula is being calculate as negative.

Reg.Negative delivery cost problem in PO release

Dear Friends
'' PO cannot be released due to negative delivery costs" this is my client requirement, I am unable to understand this. Please explain and give the solution.
Thanks
Rajakumar.K

how can you have negative delivery costs?
that means you order material, get it delivered by a carrier, and then the carrier pays you (instead of you pay carrier)?
Please explain your PO process in a bit more detail.
maybe this thread with a similar problem can help you:
http://forums.sdn.sap.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1516469

Conditions type of category "Delivery Costs"(B) donu00B4t allow negative values

Hello,
I would like to know if it is possible to munipulate a condition type with category "B" Delivery costs in such a way that it allows a negative entry in the Purchase Order.
Estandard SAP does not allow it. Message: 06259 "Negative Delivery costs are not allowed".
If the above is not possible, can anyone tell me how a can manipulate a Discount (fixed amount) in such a way that it not only points at a particlar account (accruels indicator does this job) upon MIGO, but also apears as a line-item upon receiving the invoice (MIRO). As far as I know, only Planned delivery costs can do this job. But they do not allow negative values!
If anyone has encountered a similar task, please tell me how they solved it.
Thanks,
Aart

Hello Guys,
The scenario isas follows.
When one buys fuel, in Chile one has to pay fuel especific Taxes.
Version especific config does not resolve this because we need the tax in amount (value) not in percentage.
In our system we resolved this by creating a material "Fuel especific Taxes" which points at a tax-account with a special tax-indicator.
So far so good.
Now the government implemented a second fuel tax - "Fuel tax variable" which we might resolve in the same way, but the problem is this tax might be negative(!).
We cannot create a material with a "negative value" in our Purchase Order and discount conditions have inmediate efect on the material costs in the PO.
The ideal would be incorporate a condition type in the PO which upon invoicing (MIRO) shows up with the tax account (and a possible negative value!
The model we have developed upto now is using the tabpage "GeneralAccount" in the MIRO but in this model we have to indicate the account ourselves. The system does not propose it.
Thats why I thought of the "Planned Delivery costs" option.
Hope this clarifies a bit more the case we have.
Thanks for any feedback
Aart

Unplanned delivery cost will lead to negative value

Hi everyone,
i have this issue. I m trying to cancel an incoice document from MR8M.When i do that i get a message: No m8281, unplanned delivery cost will lead to negative value.
Can someone help me with this? what do i need to do?
Regards

Hi,
This problem is caused by a program error.
Refer the notes 1377622, 992146
You use transaction MIRO "Enter Incoming Invoice" to enter an invoice that has a reference to a purchase order. Based on your Customizing settings, the unplanned delivery costs are distributed to the individual items.
1. You enter negative unplanned delivery costs on the "Details" tab page. The negative unplanned delivery costs lead to a negative invoice amount.
              The system does not issue error message M8 281 "Unplanned delivery costs will lead to negative value".
              Negative invoice values (EKBE-WRBTR, EKBE-DMBTR) are written in the purchase order history. This results in an error in transaction MCE7 "Material Analysis (PURCHIS): Selection".
2. You post a subsequent credit. You enter unplanned delivery costs on the "Details" tab page. The unplanned delivery costs lead to a negative total invoice amount.
              The system does not issue error message M8 281 "Unplanned delivery costs will lead to negative value".
              The negative total invoice amount (the total of EKBE-WRBTR or EKBE-DMBTR) leads to an unexpected distribution of unplanned delivery costs for the next invoice document.
(SAP Customizing Implementation Guide -> Materials Management -> Logistics Invoice Verification -> Incoming Invoice -> Configure How Unplanned Delivery Costs Are Posted)
Other terms
Negative, delivery costs (DLC), bnkan_fw, rewwr, M8 281, rewrt
Reason and Prerequisites
This problem is caused by a program error.
Solution
The Support Package for Releases 4.70, 5.00, 6.00, 6.02, 6.03 and 6.04 corrects this error.
Advance correction: implement the correction instructions.
Header Data

How to return Delivery Costs in a PO?

Hi everyone,
My client has a scenario of vendor return with PO, where we indicate that the PO item is a return item.
The situation I am facing is the following: we create a normal PO, where items have their price + delivery costs. MIGO and MIRO are done perfectly. My problem comes when we have to create a return PO for that item. I do not have the same provision for PO returns, because when we return the item through PO indicator delivery costs can not be included as SAP does not support negative delivery costs. The thing is that returning the item at Purchase Price without consideration of the deliver costs, will result in high WAC. How to resolve this issue.
Could anyone advise on this? Thanks in advance!
Nisha

Hi Nisha,
I have run the scenerio in my test system with return PO.
In this I have considered the net price to be 10 rs out of which .50 rs is frieght (condition type is marked with accrual/statstical in config)
i was able to create PO since the condition type value is coming in positive and its statastical and on doing mIGO system created the material document with the below accounting entries
GR/IR dr for 10 Rs
Stock account credit for 9.5 rs
Frieght account credit for .5 rs
I think this solves the issue
please check the config of the frieght condition type make it statastical

Vendor return Process - Capture of delivery costs

My client has a scenario of vendor return with PO, where we indicate that the PO item is a return item. We use VL120B to create the DO and then do a PGI.
You can do the Vendor return with transaction MBRL as well. The accounting postings in this case will reverse the entire value including the delivery costs.
I do not have the same provision for PO returns. When we return the item through PO indicator, how to ensure that the item is return at WAC ?
Returning the item at Purchase Price without consideration of the deliver costs, will result in high WAC. How to resolve this issue. We cannot put negative in the condition type also, because system gives an error saying negative delivery cost is not allowed.
Could anyone advise on this?

Hi Bala,
Did you get a solution for this issue? I am facing the same problem and would be very grateful for any information.
Regards,
Nisha

Delivery Cost

Dear All,
Can negative delivery cost be maintained in the pricing procedure for Purchase order?
Regards,
Indranil

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Reset commitments for expected delivery costs

Hi guru's,
after i have implemented note 733733 I finally got SAP to reset commitments after setting the 'Final Invoice' indicator in the PO.
Only it does not reset the commitment for any expected delivery costs that occur on the purchase order.
Can any one advice how to reset commitments for expected delivery costs when no delivery cost invoices are to be expected?
Kind regards,
Roel

Hi,
If you refereed the OSS Note 427944 correctly it explains how the shipment cost can be transferred to delivery cost based on some pre-requisite.
Like the value for PO should be >0
Like the service agent is involved during shipment liability, then there should be cumulative transfer for each value which will update based on shipment cost if PO value is "0".
The shipment cost will be delivered to all delivery items based on weight.
If you want to enhance this then you need to use the enhancement V54KSFRC to update the values as per your requirement.
Rgds,

Distribute planned delivery cost into all open POs when post FI vendor invo

Hi,
We planned transport cost in PO usning condition type but we post the freight invoice monthly for freight vendor using F-43 with out refernce to POs.
So POs always expect a freight invoce,ends up with GR/IR clearing balance and so we can't archive these POs now.
Now we are looking for a new solution that to distribute monthly freight invoice amt into all those open invoices when we post a FI freight invoice for vendor (F-43).
Please do suggest any user exit or BADI to check for open POs for that vendor when post F-43.
hope to hear your reply soon. Thanks in Advance
Regards,
Jagadheshwar

Hi
Since it is planned delivery cost, I belive the Freight posting would have happened at MIGO itself.... i.e. the Freight amount would have been inventorized or posted into consumption account in the case of account assigned PO... Is this understandng correct?
If yes, then ideally you should be passing entry using F-02, Dr the GR/IR account and Crediting the Vendor account... Allow manual posting for GR/IR in FS00... populate the PO No in GR/IR account while doing the posting.... Then you can clear them...
Ideally, you should not have had planned delvery cost, if you are not booking the invoice PO wise....
If you are getting the freight invoice for each PO separately, you can do ERS (Evaluated Receipt Settlement)... Which means system would automatically Dr the Gr/IR and Credit the vendor.... You dont need to wait for the invoice.... This is usually done for trusted vendors
Br, Ajay M

GR Value without Delivery costs

Hi experts,
We loaded data through 2lis_02_Scl into the standard cube 0pur_c01.
Through some update routine in the update rules the data loaded into the cube for the field " Value of
goods received in local currency ".
When checked in the cube we are getting the value with the "Delivery Costs".
But we want the value without Delivery Costs.
The update routine in the update rules for this field is as follows:
========================
IF ( COMM_STRUCTURE-PROCESSKEY = '002' or     "WE-Wert
    COMM_STRUCTURE-PROCESSKEY = '012' or
    COMM_STRUCTURE-PROCESSKEY = '022' )
    AND COMM_STRUCTURE-BWAPPLNM EQ 'MM'
    AND COMM_STRUCTURE-CPPVLC <> 0.
    RESULT = COMM_STRUCTURE-CPPVLC.
========================
How to get the value without delivery costs ? What the code i need to write for this ?
Regards,
Bhadri M.

Please ask your functional consultant,
about the condition to differentiate the GR Value and the Delivery Costs the Source System.
Check the movement types or the conditions.
Identify the tables and the field names.
ensure those fields were being populated through our extractor, if not go ahead with enhancing the structure and make a look up on the tables. After populating in the DSO, write a routine to negate the delivery costs.

Question on uplanned delivery costs need to go to GL account

Hello
I have a question regarding unplanned deliver costs. I am a FI analyst Can you please explain my how I can solve my problem . My user wants unplanned delivery costs to go in to the GL account .
In MM account determination GL account is set up but when I am doing MIRO
. I am putting total amount in amount field and freight costs in unplanned field under detail section.
When I simulate it gives me tax code related warning when I hit enter it credit vendor and debits GR/IR clearing and some debit to inventory account but not to freight account,
Whats the problem. Can someone explain me :
1)     What do I need to do to make it go to GL account ( account is set up but what is tax code related error . how do I fix that,
2)     How does unplanned delivery costs work if I have tax, discount and freight.
3)     Is tax calculated off total amount (inventory + freight) and discount too. How can I prevent that so that my tax is calculated just on inventory amount?
4)     DO I have to put total in amount field (meaning inventory amount + fright ) or not .
I will be grateful if someone can guide me towards right direction. Please give me a detailed answer. How does it work???
Thanks
Kavita Reddy

Hi,
1. If you eant ot post to a differnet GL account the GL tab is there.. there you have to mention the Gl account.. like Fb50.
2. When you put some amount in unplanend delivery cost ..
a. If material is Moving average price then the amount will be debited to inventory account
b. If material is in standard price then it eill go to price differnece account.
3. frieght vendor , discount why not u calculate through pricing schema in PO and after that in MIRP for firght vendor u will have different option..Just check with MM guys..
4.answered in point 1.
Hope it will helps ..
Assign point if helpful
regards
PK

Question on unplanned delivery costs need to go to GL account ????

Hello
I have a question regarding unplanned deliver costs. I am a FI analyst Can you please explain my how I can solve my problem . My user wants unplanned delivery costs to go in to the GL account .
In MM account determination GL account is set up but when I am doing MIRO
. I am putting total amount in amount field and freight costs in unplanned field under detail section.
When I simulate it gives me tax code related warning when I hit enter it credit vendor and debits GR/IR clearing and some debit to inventory account but not to freight account,
Whats the problem. Can someone explain me :
1)     What do I need to do to make it go to GL account ( account is set up but what is tax code related error . how do I fix that,
2)     How does unplanned delivery costs work if I have tax, discount and freight.
3)     Is tax calculated off total amount (inventory + freight) and discount too. How can I prevent that so that my tax is calculated just on inventory amount?
4)     DO I have to put total in amount field (meaning inventory amount + fright ) or not .
I will be grateful if someone can guide me towards right direction. Please give me a detailed answer. How does it work???
Thanks
Kavita Reddy

in standard setting the freight amount gets debit in the stock or inventoy account and gets credit in the fright accoutn at the time fo gr so it means the amount of frieght is gettting invenotrised
now at the time of IV IN MIRO SYSTEM CREDITS THE VENDOR ACCOUNT AND DEBITS THE GR/IR account
if u want to settele the planned delivery cost then select the laout variant for the planned delivery at item level
or in case if u want to make use of the unplanned delivery cost then u r doing the right step
but as u simulate the g/l accounts sytem will debit the inventory or stock account for it rather then frieght account (i belive so )
as the uplanned delivery cost may be getting inventorised that is added to the material price
and as u said u dont want to have tax calulated on the unplanned delivery cost then i suggest u to post it as subsequent debit and there do not make use of the claulate tax option or do the direct posting for the g/l account option

Planned delivery cost for the scheduling agreement

Hi Experts
1. I have an requirement to post Invoice ver. for the Planned delivery cost (freight,customs duty,CVD etc) against the Scheduling Agreement just like Import Purchases with checking off the GR Based IV Indicator before doing the GR
I tried it but its giving me that no delivery costs are Planned in the Scheduling agreements it runs fine in case of the PO because PO is a time independent. Please inform how to post the same for schedule agreement with time dependent indicator on. I tried switching off the time dependent indicator and the system allowed, but my requirement is to Post I.V for the delivery cost with the time dependent indicator on.
Appreciate if you can suggest something in this case Urgently .
2. Aother issue is we have some uploaded Scheduling agreement from legacy system with Time dependent conditions. For this we need to post planned delivery cost in Miro. Since the system is not allowing to post, how to about for this. Shall we enter the delivery cost in unplanned delivery cost in Miro and post. Please suggest if any alternate solution is available.
Regards
Arvind

Hi,
As you know if the delivery cost document is not posted during GR the
delivery cost is not proposed during invoice (MIRO). Planned delivery
cost will be proposed in invoice only when there are records in EKBZ
table. The EKBZ table will be updated when delivery cost is posted
during GR itself.
Please ensure in the PO itself thatr the conditions have been defined
properly with the relevant amounts and values.
During GR when planned delivery cost conditions are present in PO,
system checks for values in amount field. Then only appropriate
calculations will be done for delivery cost and planned delivery cost
document will posted during GR and hence updates EKBZ table.
Solution to this issue is described in below steps,
1) reverse the invoice document
2) reverse GR document.
3) You have to give values in amount field in relevant conditions ZGDS
   in the PO.
   If you face any issues changing the values, delete above conditions
   and put it again manually and give values in amount field also.
4) Post GR once again, delivery cost document will also be posted.
   You can check it in PO history.
5) During invoice select Item + planned delivery cost and post the
   invoice. If you need planned delivery cost to be posted separately,
   then you can post individual invoice for item and delivery cost.
Please note it is not possible to post delivery costs for documents with
multiple accountassignments.
For your second question, I am afraid I can not answer. Please open a new ntry in the forum, so that someone else can answer it.
Best Regards,
Arminda Jack

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