Unplanned delivery cost will lead to negative value

Hi everyone,
i have this issue. I m trying to cancel an incoice document from MR8M.When i do that i get a message: No m8281, unplanned delivery cost will lead to negative value.
Can someone help me with this? what do i need to do?
Regards

Hi,
This problem is caused by a program error.
Refer the notes 1377622, 992146
You use transaction MIRO "Enter Incoming Invoice" to enter an invoice that has a reference to a purchase order. Based on your Customizing settings, the unplanned delivery costs are distributed to the individual items.
1. You enter negative unplanned delivery costs on the "Details" tab page. The negative unplanned delivery costs lead to a negative invoice amount.
              The system does not issue error message M8 281 "Unplanned delivery costs will lead to negative value".
              Negative invoice values (EKBE-WRBTR, EKBE-DMBTR) are written in the purchase order history. This results in an error in transaction MCE7 "Material Analysis (PURCHIS): Selection".
2. You post a subsequent credit. You enter unplanned delivery costs on the "Details" tab page. The unplanned delivery costs lead to a negative total invoice amount.
              The system does not issue error message M8 281 "Unplanned delivery costs will lead to negative value".
              The negative total invoice amount (the total of EKBE-WRBTR or EKBE-DMBTR) leads to an unexpected distribution of unplanned delivery costs for the next invoice document.
(SAP Customizing Implementation Guide -> Materials Management -> Logistics Invoice Verification -> Incoming Invoice -> Configure How Unplanned Delivery Costs Are Posted)
Other terms
Negative, delivery costs (DLC), bnkan_fw, rewwr, M8 281, rewrt
Reason and Prerequisites
This problem is caused by a program error.
Solution
The Support Package for Releases 4.70, 5.00, 6.00, 6.02, 6.03 and 6.04 corrects this error.
Advance correction: implement the correction instructions.
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>
PK wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In what scenario we use "Unplanned delivery costs" in MIRO.
>
> We created the Purchase Order and did the goods receipts.
At the time of Vendor Invoicing, we came to know that
we forgot to enter freight value in the Purchase Order.
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we want to rectify the error in the MIRO. What is the best way to do this.
> I have explored the various possibility in MIRO like,
>
> a. putting freight amount in Unplanned delivery costs of Details tab.
> b. putting the freight amount directly in the G/L (below in the G/L Account tab).
>
> I just want to know "should we stop the users to do the
mistakes in future (our user is saying - the SAP has given the option,
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not aware of the freight amount at the time of PO creation,
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>
> Regards,
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