Neo4 Platinum nf4 ultra boot/usb problem compendium

I'm not sure if this problem has been resolved, I've searched this forum and others front to back and I never found a fix. If it has been resolved, I'm sorry for bringing it up again, but if someone would be kind enough to link me to the correct thread or explain how to fix it here?...
As you all know, the neo4 platinum board will not boot past POST (hangs at CPU info display) if any USB devices are plugged in. Now, to work around this, I have all my devices plugged into a usb hub, and switch the hub off when booting and switch it back on when in windows xp. While this works, I like to have all my equipment running the way they should be. Does anyone know how to fix this problem?
Things I've tried:
- Tried reverting back to BIOS 1.0 (didnt work)
- Tried upgrading to BIOS 1.65 beta (didnt work)
- Tried uninstalling service pack 2 (didn't work)
- tried disabling usb/kb storage support in bios (didn't work)
- tried unplugging front usb port headers (didn't work)
I haven't tried resetting CMOS but correct me if im wrong, doesnt a BIOS upgrade automatically do this?
If no one has a working solution this problem, let's use this thread to share with each other our efforts and our results (if any)..
Thanks.

anyone?...

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I have the K8N Neo4 Platinum nForce4 Ultra and 4 1GB sticks of Corsair ValueSelect DDR 400 (PC 3200), model VS1GB400C3, filling all four slots. The BIOS recognizes about 2.88 GB of total memory. The MSI manual states:
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Due to the South Bridge resource deployment, the system density
will only be detected up to 3+GB (not full 4GB) when each
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Hi.
You seems not familiar with X86....
As you should know, Windows XP and most OS are 32 bits. That mean that every memory pointer is 32 bits, thus allowing to address 4Gb of memory.
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In most OS, there is a difference between the kernel and the user. So, in most OS, the memory is divided in two 2Gb block (no matter how many Gb of Ram you really have!). The first one is for the OS, the 2nd for the user program.
So, If you have for example 3Gb of ram, in the best case, you have 1gb for system and 2Gb for user program.
To allow more Ram to fonction, PAE (Physical Address Extension) was made. Instead of 32, you got 36 bits for you pointers.
But as X86-32 CPUs can't handle more than 32 bits, a reserved area was made within 4Gb to allow Memory to be copied from the area the program want to read.
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You got a server with 8Gb of ram. In windows, you only see 3.5+512Mb PAE.
If a program need to address memory in the 7-7.5 Range for example, the chipset copy the data from the 7-7.5 range to the 3.5-4 range in order to allow the CPU to get access: that's VERY slow.
So, in short: You can't have and don't need 4Gb of ram on 32bits OS.
(And there's even more place occupied by every card (AGP, PCI, PCI-e)....)
That's why XP64 is so interresting for programmers who needs lots of ram (Database....). When used with a chipset who know how to deal with lots of ram (I don't know if NForce4 can do it but I doubt it), you can load in memory a 4Gb Database.
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(Or better: Send back 2x1Gb stick and get 2x512 SINGLE SIDED stick, unless you REALLY NEED 1.5Gb for your system !)

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hi
i am getting th same thing with my gigabyte nforce 4 board
ga8nxp-sli
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Please Help K8N Neo4 Platinum won't boot?

Hello,
I could use your expertise in this matter. I have built several systems and never seen this before. My system will not boot with the hard drive
and/or DVD drive attached. It will boot with just the 1.44 floppy attached. My system is as follows:
MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum ATX AMD Motherboard
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All that info and I still don't know where you are plugging them in. SATA or IDE(PATA)? Both?
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K8N Neo4 Platinum "Initializing Floppy Drive Controller" problem

When I finished building my system a couple days ago I started it up and found some problems:
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Quote from: Wonkanoby on 15-February-05, 20:04:01
http://www.fsp-group.com.tw/english/02_products/01_pc_power_supply.asp?modelid=166&modelname=FSP400-60THN
14a max 12v is not going to run your set up
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I thought this was enough:
+12V1DC : 14,0A
+12V2DC : 15,0A
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USB devices cause the Neo 4 to hang. Disconnect any and try again. If that works go into BIOS and disable "boot to other devices" or something like that, which stops it booting from a USB device.
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looked in the bios they are already enabled are the ports in this "intergrated peripherals" the ones mounted on the motherboard? The ones I am having problems with are on the D bracket connected to the board with a fly lead. I have looked at the motherboard settings with Si Soft Sandra and at the end of the report there is a warning" W2533 disabled host controllers are present check bios" but I can not find any other settings to try apart from the one you mentioned which is already enabled any other ideas? Thanks Ron.

K8N neo4 platinum .. No USB 2.0?

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Hi to all!
First of all sorry for my bad english :P
I have some questions regarding this motherboard that i would like to buy.
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Hi to all!
First of all sorry for my bad english :P
I have some questions regarding this motherboard that i would like to buy.
I've red some times ago that nForce 4 chipset had a bug with the HyperTransport (or similar) so all the motherboards with this chipset were post-poned. Now the german MSI site has posted a press-release of the MSI Neo4 saying that mass-volumes distribution will be in mid december.
I would like to know if some Neo4 were distribuited before nVidia found the bug and (if so) if there's a method to identify the "good" from the "bugged" versions.
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I know it sounds grazy... but unplug computer from wall socket for 10 seconds (cut power completely)
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I have just tried powering up my system based on an MS-7125 v1 and it will not boot.
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hi
reading every review has its drawbacks
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2x200GB Maxtor SATA Raid 0
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Hi,
I had the same problems.
installed with the help of the Diskette (also 2raidO HD), en then the drivers from the CD.
problem still there.
I then upgraded to 3.7 bios & 6.66 msi nforce (downloaded from MSI website): problem solved.
I later upgraded to the Nvidia 3.70 drivers, no issues.
I do have a problem about the Sound and the Digital Decoder of the DTT3500 Cambridge Soundworks.. (already posted in this tread):
Can't get 5.1 sound running! (with digital output, like on the SB LIVE! 5.1)
quote below:
I have bought a new PC with an MSI k8n sli platinum MB. this mainboard has a built in soundblaster live!24-bit chip onboard. it works great on headphones and normal 2 set speakers (analog connection).
however, when I try to set them up at the DTT3500 speaker set, trouble begins.
before continuing, just want to say First that my older PC is standing next to it, with a Soundblaster live! 5.1. If I connect with this PC to my speaker set, via the digital uitput, everythin works great. (5.1 surround).
In the DTT3500 manual, when Digital DIN is blinking, it says it isn't recieving any signal, or not the right one (like AC-3). (I know this when on my old PC when I switch to headphones, the digital din is then blinking, which is normal as I disabled Digital output in Windows)
now my questions:
Is this digital port is ac-3 signal or somthing else on the Soundblaster live! 24-bit?
Do I need to use another type of cable, like SPDIF Din Cable? (I now have a minijack to Din cable)
I tried with optical, it works, but only with 2 speakers (left and right / digital output is on). is this normal? If i look at the manual, it's typical used for gameconsoles with stereo left and right. I guess this is so with the DDT3500 decoder...?
if I try Digital Din on the Decoder, it doesn't work. the Decoder Led keeps blinking. Yet in Windows, digital output is on and 5.1 speakers is selected.
In short, exact the same setup on the Decoder and PC as my older PC.
My guess is the the soundblaster live! 24-bit is an enhanced version of the soundblaster live! 5.1? Am I wrong, I don't know....
I do know that the reviews said you could use the digital port (orange one)"
NOTE, yesterday, I disable the onboard SB live! 24 bit card, plugged in the SB live! 5.1 card from my other PC. This works ok like it should.
I would apreciate any help, as i'm really stuck at the moment & I just hate to disable this lovely onboard card.

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