One Business System Per Client

Going in, I figured I could have multiple business systems tied to a single technical system. For example, if I have a techical system (SAP R/3) of RD0 110, and I want to have one business system for a vendor price check, another for sending ship notice idocs to a 3rd party server, etc.
When I go to add a second Business System to RD0 110 in SLD, I get an error that "The selected client already has a business system. Select a different client or system.".
Where am I going wrong?

Hi Keith,
the problem you are running in is that the SLD checks your business system entries against used client and logical system from tech.system. If one is already used in a link to a bus.system SLD does not allow to link the same tech. system to another bus.system.
But you don´t have unique namespaces for each scenario.
You will import the SWCV from SLD into Int.Rep..
Then you can define a range of namespaces in the SWCV object.
In each namespace you can implement a scenario.
The SWCV is connected to a bus. system, that s right.
But the scenario will not only work with one bus.system.
Usually you will use the SWCV to build up a scenario in Int.Rep. for the sender system providing the scenario with data.
The bus. systems defined in the SLD are more relevant in the Int.Directory, when implementing the comm.channels and building up the interface-/sender-/receiver-determinations per scenario.
If you could connect a tech. system to several business systems what could be the advantage? The tech.system is basis for connecting to SWCVs.
We had the same question here in the beginning of our project but our result was that the multi bus.system connect to a tech. system would only produce more need of organizing the structure in the SLD.
We put the focus on naming conventions in the namespaces to separate the different scenarios for the same bus.system as data provider (=sender).
If more than one system is sending the same date in a business scenario you need to establish that in having a well defined definition (agreements) in the Int. Repository!
Hope this can help!
Best regards
Dirk

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I checked many treads and still I couldn't get a satisfactory explanation to the difference between Business System and Client. I read in help.sap site that multiple business systems can be assigned to a single technical system and also each numbered client of an SAP system is a Unique Business System ? So are client and business system one ? If so why use it interchangably ? And if many business systems can be assigned to the technical system how do we specify a related Integration Server ? As I understand only one Business System can be assigned Integration server. So if we assign many business systems to one technical system then how can we have related Integration server for all ? I couldn't get a satisfactory explanation to this doubt in any thread in this forum
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>>each numbered client of an SAP system is a Unique Business System ?
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>> So are client and business system one ?
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>> If so why use it interchangably ?
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>> As I understand only one Business System can be assigned Integration server.
Correct. Its a PI Business system.
>> So if we assign many business systems to one technical system then how can we have related Integration server for all ?
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hi,
the technical system describes the physical view and the business system the logical view, respectively.
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But one Business System can have only one technical system.
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Follow the link below to learn moer on it:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/97/9d84494b9f45caabe0713296d89b72/content.htm
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Hi Sudhir, I think in XI there is 1:n relationship between Technical sysytem and business system.
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suggest if any alternative solution is there.
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Hi Dijesh ,
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what is the difference between Business system and Logical system...

Hi
Business system is a logical layer needed for configuration in integration directory. On the other site technical system is physical representation of your technical landscape. In case of SAP technical systems you can have more than one business system relation. In that situation there is relation one client to one business system.
If your technical system changes, then you definitely need to point this new technical system to the existing Business system which has been used to do all the Configurations in the Integration Builder.
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Hi Udo/Renjith and Rakesh,
Thanks for quick reply and appreciate you help.
Now I can say that there is some problem with my Technical Systems or Business Systems, let me give you details regarding my Technical/Business systems.
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SAP APPL 4.6C
SAP BASIC JAVA LIBS 6.30
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SAP BASIS 6.40
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SAP SOFTW. DELIV. MANAGER 6.30
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XI CONNECTIVITY SE 3.0
XI TOOLS 3.0
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SAP BASIS 6.40
SAP GUI FOR WINDOWS 4.5B
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SAP GUI FOR WINDOWS 6.20
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SAP HR 4.6C
SAP ITS 4.6B
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SAP J2EE ENGINE CORE 6.30
SAP JAVA TECH SERVICES 6.30
SAP JCO 6.30
SAP SOFTW. DELIV. MANAGER 6.30
XI ADAPTER FRAMEWORK 3.0
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Technical Systems and Business Systems

Hello Everybody!!!
I have some doubts, can you help me, please???
1) Technical Systems are application(software) systems, ok? They aren't hardware systems, ok?
2) In my SLD I should have a SAP ECC system as a technical system and each of their clients as a bussiness system, ok?
3) For third-party systems, where the client concept doesn't exist, I should have one technical system and only one business system for my third-party system, ok?
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           ur view is correct except in the technical system .
1)   technical systems are the physically located systems in which we can create only technical system for any physically located system .
2)   bussiness systems are logical systems . according to the type of technical system we can create the no of bussiness systems .
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   technical system of   third party   we can not create more than one business system as there is no matter of client .
3)   so for every third party systems only one   business system will be there .
some important points :.
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Can u give me answers to this questions.
on XI what are these?
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[email protected]

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