Overriding the derived profit centre

Hi
Requirement is we have to derive balance sheet for the two company code separately
Presently followed process is : we have one company code XXXX ( at 2 locations) so we are posting everthing to one company code and then deriving the trial balance manually for the other location.
Limitations:
We cannot create a new company code
We cannot create new gl accounts for the other location
We cannot create new cost centre for the other location
So we thought achieving this by activating Profit centre accounting.
We have created the 2 locations as 2 profit centre.
Now when we do posting f-02 it should give us option for selecting any one of the profit centreu2026 as we have not assigned the profit centre in the cost centre master record.
At the time of posting it picks up dummy profit centre
Without disturbing present organistation structure we want derive balance sheet for the 2 locations.
Regards
Thavishi

Hi
In f-02 posting you should be able to key in the profit centre for each line item. In order to make this possible please check your field status for posting keys and G/L master. At the moment since no PC is been derived system is posting to dummy profit centre.
Please let me know if you have tried this and what is the exact problem when entering pc in F-02
Thanks
Sanjeev

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Hi Sunil ,
This is very much possible .
Procedure :-
generate the report ex fbl1n with any criterea.Before that check weather field profit center is there in Dynamic selections .
Even after giving if it is not coming .then go to settings in fbl1n report and there click on special fields .
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Field Name PRCTR
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if you find any error like field prctr already exist then no need to craete firld PRCTR for BSIS but you need to create it for BSEG (form which these figures populate )
then save .
CAUTION: ypou may not find the changes until indexing takes place .
so Wait fro some time for ex In some comanies indexing takes at night time . after that only you can see the changes .
this way you can add some special fields .
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I beleive that you are talking about the Profit centre field not maintined in sales order hence not picked in delivery and billing and there is an FI posting error (GL account error) because of that
Profit centre is maintained in MMR and the same flows thro the sales cycle and i am quite sure if maintained in MMR it will be picked automatically and no need to make it mandatory in sales order( as the purpose is already solved)
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Profit centre field field is picked from masters and flows in the entire flow and that field is greyed out (like no option of inserting it inbetween)
As told by others incompletion log in sales doc type will take care for future orders and for the already created orders the standard option is cancel billing, reverse delivery and open the sales order and give Profit centre field and process it (if only a few orders are there)
But if the already created orders are many then from the FI Area you need to go for development ( we also faced this issue as profit center not maintained in MMRs and hence accounting got hit and there were tons of billing docs and our FI consultant made some development to open it and solve it) FI consultant should be able to do this for already created orders
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1KEK posting the reversal documents to dummy profit centre.

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First let me explain the scenario.
Through FB60, I posted a document as per the below:
Doc date : 23.07.2007, Period: 8, Posting date : 17.08.2007, Doc type : KR.
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31    14898 - Vendor                            164.20-
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22    14898 - Vendor                            164.20
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Hi FI Gurus,
I am looking after a Support Project in SAP IS-Retail. I am from the FI functional and possess very limited knowledge in FI.
My client has done the sales posting in SAP using IDOC's. During the postings, it was found that wrong Profit Centers were assigned. Due to this, the sales reports based on Profit Center are coming wrong. It was suggested to the client to reverse the IDOCs, do necessary changes in Profit Centers and re-post the IDOCs. The client wanted a short method to get the reports right. A senior consultant (Non FI) in the Company and the Management are forcing me to write a ABAP program to update certain (not all) FI tables. According to me, it will have some negative impact on the system for which reason I am not ready to take the call as a Project Manager. The management wants me to do the following (I am quoting the same mail which I received from the consultant ) :
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3. The Special GL also does not get updated because of this.
This is a very critical and hot issue. My job is at Stake as the Management has threatened me of sacking if I do not follow their directives as they are only concerned with their money.
Is the consultant who suggested this change RIGHT ?
Your early replies will help me take the decision.
Regards

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