Personnel Cost Plannling for Vacant Position, ECC 6

I am implementing Personnel cost planning and simulation ECC 6, based on Payroll results and Projected pay for vacant position only, no issue in payroll results but i am not clear about the projected pay, vacant position based on wage element from IT 1015.
for testing purpose i have created one position and made it vacant through vacancy infotype, then i have created 1015 record for that specific position and not on job. for 1015 i have created one sample wage element and assigned in 1015. I am not using the planned compensation infotype (1005) although if i do then i am able to collect, any way without 1005 i am planning to collect data PHCPDCOO. based on object type position, first issue, i am not sure which collection method should be used, expecting that "Data for Vacant Positions" method should work, that method is not working in my case and wage elements are not comming.
kindly advice
one more concern is while creating wage element through comp management, i could not see any place to assign wage element to cost items or symbolic account but assigned the cost elements while creating, is this enough ?

Hi Muhammad,
Did you get through? I am in the process of researching Personnel Cost Planning.
How did you set up wage elements and assign them to the infotype 1015?
And what would be the next process after that?

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Dear Experts:
Can anyone tell me the best data collection method for Cost Planning for Vacant Positions.
regards,
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Yeah we do:
Scenario is like this:
Assume Business Planning is done at the begining of the Fiscal year.
And Manpower Planning is also done at the same time for the fiscal year.
Now, based on the MPP user would create Vacant Positions in OM.
Periodicity of Cost Planning could be Yearly/ Quarterly/ Monthly.
Whenever i create Vacant Position for Future Periods the system should calculate the Personnel Costs for the Vacant Positions for the same period.
I just wanted to know, which method would be the best if anyone has done this before.
regards,
Srikanth Reddy

Finding Cost Center for Position

Dear Gurus,
Wish you happy new year.
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The Funding Approver is responsible for updating and maintaining Infotype 1018 (Cost Distribution infotype) and Infotype 9018 (Budget infotype). The Funding Approver is responsible for approving funds for positions.
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Try with RH_GET_COSTCENTER_OF_OBJECT
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Inactive cost center is able to be assigned to a vacant position or Org uni

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Is there a config that can be turned on which prevent inactive cost centre, ie cost centre which has been blocked to be assigned to a vacant position or a Org Unit?
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sounds straightforward...
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Position Based Busgeting/Personnel Cost Planning

Hi, I am new to this topic and so I have some questions which may be very basic. I apologize in advance.
1. When we extract HR information from R/3 is the position information rolled up or can we get individual records by position ID?
2. Do we need to run payroll for Position Budgeting? What's the work around if we aren't implementing payroll? Do you do a masterdata load?
3. Does the information from PBC and Personnel Cost Planning in R/3 feed into the same infocube when we do the extraction?
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Hi refer the links
Quota Planning
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/a0/524035634df01ee10000009b38f889/frameset.htm
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/f3/21e091110b4e46983af70d772a40b2/frameset.htm
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Updation of Personnel Area for a position and an employee after hiring.

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Hi Niharika,
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Hi Niharika,
In Set up personnel actions please mark the country reassignment indicator. Hope this will work.
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Missing iviews for Personnel Cost Planning and Simulation

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Finally I got the answer and thought I can share this with you all.....
For Personnel Cost Planning and Simulation, SAP has not delivered mss iViews, but SAP has realized the detail planning pages for the line manager and the personnel cost planner by using the Business Server Page (BSP) "hrhcp_planning".
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Personnel Cost Planning: creating cost item for Org unit

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It is extremely difficult to answer your question without knowing all the details of your scenario.
I can briefly explain the scenario I used:
1. I have maintained IT1005 on job level to further distribute this information along the organization structure.
2. First of all i had to run data collection on job level using method "Infotype planned compensation: 1005" and cost item that was a base for other items, e.g. basic salary. System creates records in infotype 5010 "Planning of Pers. Costs" for evaluated jobs.
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Personnel cost plan (PCP) run for multi years period

There is a requirement of PCP run (tcode PHCPADMN) for multi years.
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Hi,
you have to run your object data selection for multi years as well. First do this for the person, tha n do it for the position, than for the job. Than you can delete the data from the position and automatically the data from the job is taken (in average) for the position for the period you select.
A thing that you have to keep in mind for multi period runs is that it creates thousands and thousand of records. Runtime is therefore long and extraction to BW is also hard to create due to this. If it is possible to cut it in to pieces, this is advisable.
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Frans

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Change cost centres for train crew personnel

What is the impact if we change train crew personnel cost centre's within a same company code to another cost centre with another business area?
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Edited by: Annelize Meyer on Feb 2, 2009 8:10 AM

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Help on few questions on Personnel Cost Planning Detail (tx. PHCPDETL)

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I have few questions on Personnel Cost Planning Detail (tx. PHCPDETL) :
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Amilcar

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CALL METHOD viewer->enable_sapsso EXPORTING enabled = 'X' EXCEPTIONS OTHERS = 99.
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Hi all,
i have problems with the Personnel Cost Planning specifically with the Quota planning (infotype 1019).
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Joanne,
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BI_METADATA
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