PR 2.0 aká Anna. Big Failure Nokia!

In a last year, Nokia said new update with a improved browser will be released in a Early Q1. So i wait, new year is gone, january, february....now i a april? Starts Q2 and nothing? Why promises Nokia and lies? I am angry and very dissapointed. Nokia N8 is a flag model and a support? Joke? During a more half year selling, we get a two small updates without a new features.
A week ago, i get a Sony Ericsson arc - this device has a much better browser than Nokia with a prehistoric version of their browser. Until this time, i was a satisfied user of Nokie N8, but now i regret buying of this product of Nokia with a horrible support.
For example, Galaxy S get update to 2.3 more faster than PR 2.0 for Nokie N8. It´s very funny )
Now i will waiting a few months to release in a autumn of PR 2.0, maybe Q4?

@reinob. In general you are quite right as If the phone was delivered with what was promised, we have nothing to complain for. - Everything else would be a bonus.
On the other hand, in this case with S^3 we were actually promised a constantly eveloping operating system were new features was supposed to be made and then pushed out as updates as fast as they were ready. So in that case we were actually promised updates.
Now, I have my E7 and it's been a very good device so far, but unfortunately there are a few bugs which I have discovered because of my way to use the phone. Often while listening to radio and trying to multitask with the browser, the phone will freeze and I will have to do the 8 second press of the power button to get it back running. So some basic functions and combinations does not work as supposed to.
On an another hand ( I have many of them ) Nokia will need to follow what other brands do to get new customers and make those who are stay with the make. So this point of view would not have any legal depth to it, but is a clear trend in the market.
But you're quite right about what you have posted
What's also slowing Nokia down is the product codes for countries, regions, operators etc There are tons of small variations which of course, due to the amount of customers, will make this go slower, much slower.

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The BIG failure of the floating point computation

The Big failure of the floating point computation .... Mmmm
You are writing some code .. writing a simple function ... and using type Double for your computation.
You are then expecting to get a result from your function that is at least close to the exact value ...
Are you right ??
Let see this from an example.
In my example, I will approximate the value of pi. To do so, I will inscribe a circle into a polygon, starting with an hexagon, and compute the half perimeter of the polygon. this will give me an approximation for pi.
Then I will in a loop doubling the number of sides of that polygon. Therefore, each iteration will give me a better approximation.
I will perform this twice, using the same algorithm and the same equation ... with the only difference that I will write that equation in two different form
Since I don't want to throw at you equations and algorithm without explanation, here the idea:
(I wrote that with Word to make it easier to read)
====================
Simple enough ...
It is important to understand that the two forms of the equation are mathematically always equal for a given value of "t" ... Since it is in fact the exact same equation written in two different way.
Now let put these two equations in code
Public Class Form1
Private Sub Form1_Load(sender As Object, e As EventArgs) Handles MyBase.Load
RichTextBox1.Font = New Font("Consolas", 9)
RichTextBox2.Font = New Font("Consolas", 9)
TextBox1.Font = New Font("Consolas", 12)
TextBox1.TextAlign = HorizontalAlignment.Center
TextBox1.Text = "3.14159265358979323846264338327..."
Dim tt As Double
Dim Pi As Double
'===============================================================
'Using First Form of the equation
'===============================================================
'start with an hexagon
tt = 1 / Math.Sqrt(3)
Pi = 6 * tt
PrintPi(Pi, 0, RichTextBox1)
'Now we will double the number of sides of the polygon 25 times
For n = 1 To 25
tt = (Math.Sqrt((tt ^ 2) + 1) - 1) / tt
Pi = 6 * (2 ^ n) * tt
PrintPi(Pi, n, RichTextBox1)
Next
'===============================================================
'Using Second Form of the equation
'===============================================================
'start with an hexagon
tt = 1 / Math.Sqrt(3)
Pi = 6 * tt
PrintPi(Pi, 0, RichTextBox2)
'Now we will double the number of sides of the polygon 25 times
For n = 1 To 25
tt = tt / (Math.Sqrt((tt ^ 2) + 1) + 1)
Pi = 6 * (2 ^ n) * tt
PrintPi(Pi, n, RichTextBox2)
Next
End Sub
Private Sub PrintPi(t As Double, n As Integer, RTB As RichTextBox)
Dim S As String = t.ToString("#.00000000000000")
RTB.AppendText(S & " " & Format((6 * (2 ^ n)), "#,##0").PadLeft(13) & " sides polygon")
Dim i As Integer = 0
While S(i) = TextBox1.Text(i)
i += 1
End While
Dim CS = RTB.GetFirstCharIndexFromLine(RTB.Lines.Count - 1)
RTB.SelectionStart = CS
RTB.SelectionLength = i
RTB.SelectionColor = Color.Red
RTB.AppendText(vbCrLf)
End Sub
End Class
The results:
The text box contains the real value of PI.
The set of results on the left were obtain with the first form of the equation .. on the right with the second form of the equation
The red digits show the digits that are exact for pi.
On the right, where we used the second form of the equation, we see that the result converge nicely toward Pi as the number of sides of the polygon increases.
But on the left, with the first form of the equation, we see the after just a few iterations, the function stop converging and then start diverging from the expected value.
What is wrong ... did I made an error in the first form of the equation?
Well probably not since this first form of the equation is the one you will find in your math book.
So, what up here ??
The problem is this:
What is happening is that at each iteration when using the first form, I subtract 1 from the radical, This subtraction always gives a result smaller than 1. Since the type double has a fixed number of digits on the left of the decimal
point, at each iteration I am loosing precision caused by rounding.
And after only 25 iterations, I have accumulate such a big rounding error that even the digit on the left of the decimal point is wrong.
When using the second form of the equation, I am adding 1 to the radical, therefore the value grows and I get no lost of precision.
So, what should we learn from this ?
Well, ... we should at least remember that when using floating point to compute a formula, even a simple one, as I show here, we should always check the exactitude of the result. There are some functions that a floating point is unable to evaluate.

I manually (yes, manually) did the computations with calc.exe. It has a higher accuracy. PI after 25 iterations is 3.1415926535897934934541990520762.
This means tt = 0.000000015604459512183037864437694609544 compared to 0.0000000138636291675699 computed by the code.
Armin
Manually ...
You did better than Archimedes.
He only got to the 96 sides polygon and gave up. Than he said that PI was 3.1427

Is it just me? Nokia Anna big problem

Why can i not download Anna? When will i be able to? No OTA Ovi unable to connect to server same with updater....

Hello @bobbytaxi,
Have you seen this post from @skyee, specially the chapter 5?
/t5/Software-Updates/Symbian-Anna-We-are-live-Downloads-start-today/m-p/1122929#M95641
-vvaino
#SwitchToLumia

Has nokia stopped anna updates on Nokia N8 due to ...

I have once updated two N8 to anna but am failing on this one.has nokia stopped anna updates because of the upcoming belle release?

It all depends on your product code. If you can post that I can tell you if a version of Anna exists for that particular handset or not.
Cheers.
Ray.

Patch for Symbian Anna released? (Nokia E7)

Hi All
I am not sure what is going on.
My E7 was serviced by NOKIA care Point one week ago. Phone came back to me with Symbian Anna and all updates applied (I checked it same day the phone was back)
Today, when checking Applications>SW Update I noticed this:
My Question is:
Is this update about patch for Symbian Anna?
Because here are details of my system:
I am confused because same set of updates came from Nokia when I was updating from Symbian^3 to Anna.
Can any one explain this?

let me give you some more flashes:
1. 7370 reset will tell you that all the 3 updates are required.
2. after doing so, ovi store will not work.
3. you will scour this forum and find out that you have to install 3 files, in proper sequence, reboot system.
4. bad luck.
5. then you will try 3 button reset
6. WOW. ovi store will work after the similar 3 file anna update
7. you will call nokia care line
8. they will tell you that 3 button reset is not nokia recommended and that you will have to "reflash" your device
9. you will lose your cool, especially after having come from the same place already
10. then you will scream out loud in this forum.
11. you will get used to the problem or you will optimistally wait for Belle.
whew... sometimes, i tend to think that if the above process is standard in one order or the other, there is no need for this forum! nokia can post this in a website itself as a
if... then... else... code prose!

Big Problem Nokia E90 Fornt Panel & Screen Not Wor...

Hi Everyone,
I upgraded the firmware of my E90 last week. The next day it fel down & when picked up, the front panel including screen & key pad were off. I took out the battery & restarted it, the power came on the front screen lit up, the keypanel came on, the NOKIA logo comes on, but then the inner screen also gets simultaneously on, I hear the startup tone & then the front panel & screen powers off completely.
On Flipping open the phone the Inner Screen also does not come on automatically. Only when I press any key does it come on. The inner screen & louspeaker works normally.
I showed it in Nokia Care here & they are unable to figure out the problem. Please help me if someone has experienced a similar problem or any solutions to this.
Thanks a lot guys for all your help.

Hello nitinbhatnagar, I don't think too many people have experienced your situation if any, but you can always try restoring your phone to factory settings or reset with *#7780# soft reset or *#7370# hard reset or reinstall firmware to rectify any software fault, but if it indeed sustained physical damage to internal circuits then you can't avoid a trip to the Nokia care point.

GPS positioning failure [nokia 5800XM]

Hi all
i need some help
my nokia 5800 xm gps isn't working properly
i get the signal but it always show my location is >850m from the place i stand
pleasse help
what should i do to fix it?
i use FW v52.0.7 and ovi maps 3.6 beta

Just to elaborate on post by farby which is advocating use of Integrated GPS positioning method only, whilst this will work eventually it can take quite a while to establish very first positional lock and you probably need to be outdoors; this method is targetted at users whom don't have a generous data download and don't want to run up bill especially when roaming.
An discrepancy of this much in position usually indicative of a location determined by cell tower triangulation, before device has accurately locked on to satellites.
You might like to look in Menu > Applications > Location > Positioning > Positioning server > Podsitioning server use - check if correct network access point is defined 3G/GPRS
The WiFi/Network positioning method added from OVI Maps v3.04 on is similar to Maps Booster application which uses Skyhook, where the location of WiFi access points and cellular towers is logged on database; the more users whom participate means the system grows in accuracy.
Happy to have helped forum with a Support Ratio = 42.5

Display failure Nokia 5233

Im finding a white spot on my nokia 5233. Its constantly blinking like a 'star-dot', nearby the HOMESCREEN profile name. Top Center position
Im finding it in every place, like gallery, music player, messages.
Please help. What might be the reason?

ramx wrote:
Im finding a white spot on my nokia 5233. Its constantly blinking like a 'star-dot', nearby the HOMESCREEN profile name. Top Center position
Im finding it in every place, like gallery, music player, messages.
Please help. What might be the reason?
Hi ramx,
If it's a dot with blinking red light - it indicates that the phone is loading something - can be an app or a process.
Good luck

Apple Macbook Pro ............big failure.

my mac book pro has become a big frustration… i bought a macbook pro in 2008 and from the very begining it has a lot of problems. after all this suddenly in 5 months ago, it started showing me some strange symptoms with completly black out on screen. i did a hardware test on it with DVDs but it showed me theproblem with videos display which is naturaly graphics card and after 4 days of that, it stopped respondin.i took it to apple care centre and they told me the replacement cost of the motherboard about 1000 USD. Which is a lot for a student and for itself macbook for which i had already paid like 2500 USD to purchase and after all this i am having this results,so right now i am big problem with out any computer using school’s computer for exams which has time limit of using it. i tried to Write to mr. Jobs even. but couldn’t find any satisfactory response. i mean is this the apple giving to its customers???
For me…, Apple products which are so expensive to buy if you buy it its so expensive to keep it too. which is alot for a student…. is there any chance of to be heard!!!!!!???????????

@ S.U.
hey Man!! thanks for your response! yeah i am thankful to Woz for his reply back. well.. trying to explore the logfiles with the external connection with hard disk.that was the first thing i did!!! explored a lot , but couldn't find any thing!! may be i wasn't good enough in searching. i can give a second try though!
yeah and about the problem with mac bro from starting.
- first there was a issue with the battery, it was in very first week of purchse. and i called apple and they replaced the battery!
- then there was a problem with the screen display! after 7 months of use. so it was under warranty till that time also. and they replced that too!
- there was a issue with battery again. that was also solved.
- i think apple has same kinda policies all over world! as its a known and reputed firm.
and i have searched a lot about such cases. as i mentioned in last post and are done free of cost by apple. i talked with an apple representative in my country and he just said sometimes apple technicians don't give a **** to customer's issue related to the macbook pro and just would tell for a repairing with some little tests. to earn more money and to force people to spend more money!
i am still finger crossed may be someday i could get a justified reply. and i have seen in a lot of cases where apple has extened the warranty period with in US but in my country they are not ready to listen anything. next thing i was thinking of going to consumer court for an appeal for this. because doesn't seems anyway out for me. because till now i have tried to knock every possible door i can. still without any result.
Lets see what would happen next!!
Lovnish

BIG failure problem with my 648-max mobo

I was attending a LAN two days ago and while playing a game, my computer froze. No big deal, it occasionally happens. So I go to restart the computer, and when i did, I now get a "Please Check Signal Cable" message. From here, I tried removing and replacing the vid. card, swapping RAM, swapping PSU, switching up parts in the PCI slots, and resetting the CMOS. None of these things have gotten my computer to boot up.
When I turn on the computer, i am supposed to hear 2 beeps. One being the mobo firing up (With a white MSI screen), and the second confirming the load up. I do not hear any sounds, meaning that my motherboard is not responding. I made sure that all connections are made. I know of this because the fans turn on, and the psu gives off all of the necessary volts.
Could it be possible that a few dip switches were tripped? How would I reset them? Does anyone have any kind of input for me? If not, I may have to buy a new mobo.
any help is appreciated

You said, swapping power supplies, did you actually change out to another supply?
If not, maybe you should do this.
Shut down your computer and open it up. Leave the power supply connected to the AC power cord.
Leave the power supply's master power switch on, if it has one.
Disconnect the ATX power connector from the motherboard. This is a wide, flat connector with two rows of pins and a locking tab.
Locate the pin connected to the gray wire. This is the PWR_OK pin.
Locate any pin connected to a black wire. These are the ground/earth pins.
Place the red (positive) probe of your voltmeter on the PWR_OK pin, and the black (negative) probe on any ground pin.
If the gray pin reads 2 volts or more, then the power supply passed its internal diagnostic. Your power supply is probably good.
If the gray pin reads much less than 1 volt, then the power supply is dead. Replace the power supply.
If you lose part of the power supply, your vga ram/rom and your beeps wont work, but the fan can still come on. different voltages. its a starting point. C

My Big failure to install maverick in Macbook Pro with retina

Please I NEED HELP i bought macbook pro with retina display i tried to install mavericks but i failed at fortunately i formatted the ssd HELP ME TO INSTALL MAVERICKS.

When i was trying to clean installation it failed to complete.
At what step did it fail to complete?
How are you installing Mavericks, a usb disk, a dvd or recovery mode.

Disappointing Nokia's responds level

Dear Nokia,
After 4 visit to Nokia care center, 12phone calls to the same center, 3 phone call to Nokia care India.
After 20 days of waiting.
I am getting the same answers
"The contact is not available"
or
"case has been already forwarded to our backend team and they are working on the same. One of our representatives will be contacting you at the earliest."
Reference numbers: 1-14487089401, 1-14495612197 & 1-14487089401.
Could you please assign some one to solve all the problems casused to me by Nokia care center.
For your quick reference below are the copy of emails sent and received between me & Nokia.
Dear Senthil,
Thank you for e-mailing Nokia Care. The Service Request Number is 1-14487089401
This e-mail is in reference to concern related to repair quality of your Nokia Lumia 920. I regret for the inconvenience caused to you.
In response to your e-mail, I would like to inform you that the case has been already forwarded to our backend team and they are working on the same. One of our representatives will be contacting you at the earliest.
Thanks & Regards,
Aniket Singh
Nokia Care Representative
India
[THREAD ID:1-6NQB9YB]
-----Original Message-----
From: *******
Sent: 06/08/2013 02:28:05 PM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: The Service Request Number is 1-14487089401
Dear Ms.Sharma,
I just wanted to let you know that its been 4 days no one from your team or
nokia called me to assist.
Please advise.
Below is last email you have sent.
On Aug 2, 2013 4:45 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dear Senthil,
>
> Thank you for e-mailing Nokia Care. The Service Request Number is
> 1-14487089401
>
> This e-mail is in reference to concern related to repair quality of your
> Nokia Lumia 920. I regret for the inconvenience caused to you.
>
> In response to your email, I would like to update you that the case has
> been already forwarded to the concerned department. Our representative will
> contact you at the earliest.
>
> NOTE: Only our backend team is authorized to process your request for
> device replacement post technical diagnosis of your current device and
> Nokia does not have any refund policy.
>
> Thanks & Regards,
>
> Amita Sharma
> Nokia Care Representative
> India
>
> NOKIA Support Services:
> 1. Find the nearest Nokia Care Centre: Type “NCC<space>City Name” and send
> it to 55555* (e.g. NCC DELHI)
> 2. To book an Appointment with Nokia Care Centre, visit
> http://www.nokia.co.in/appointment
> 3. Online Support: http://www.nokia.co.in/support
> 4. Protect your Nokia Device -Buy Nokia Extended Warranty by visiting the
> nearest Nokia Care Centre
> 5. Warranty Terms & Conditions:
> http://www.nokia.com/in-en/support/manufacturer-s-limited-warranty/
> * Premium SMS charges apply
>
>
> [THREAD ID:1-6NQB9YB]
> *--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*
>
>
>
>
> [ANY FIELD NN]
> [Type:Complaint]
> [Topic:Nokia devices and accessories]
> [Sub topicupport, Service Points or repair]
> [Messageear Sir/Madam,
>
> Sub: Complaint regarding Nokia care center Hello telecom center pvt ltd.
> Nokia Care Center Hello Telecom Pvt ltd
> Umalaya Plaza, 1st Floor, Y-214 2nd Avenue anna Nagar.
> Chennai 600040
>
> I am writing this email after continuous disappointments by Nokia Care
> center
> .
> Here’s what happened, I am not sure it might be April or May My Lumia 920
> showed up some sim error luckily it was under warranty time as I brought
> this mobile on Feb 2013. After several follow up and a couple visit to the
> ---- Nokia care they have fixed the problem and returned the mobile in a
> working condition. I was very happy with Nokia and its services till July
> 18th morning all my satisfactory level with Nokia has gone away after
> seeing the same old sim error which I have seen earlier. Now this time
> Nokia care Kodambakkam as I am residing near to this center everything went
> smooth until Mr. Parthasarathi – Engineer Nokia care showed me the inside
> part of my phone and said the board was tempered and he will not take this
> mobile with warranty covers. It was hard to believe that in earlier service
> my mobile board was tampered by Nokia care in Anna nagar and Nokia care in
> Kodambakkam will not take any responsibility being caring the same name on
> their sign boards “Nokia”.
>
> However the Engineer was polite enough to advise me to contact the Anna
> Nagar Nokia care as they are the one who serviced the mobile earlier with
> no other options I agreed to contact the Anna nagar nokia care and
> requested to returned the mobile so that I could rush but when he returned
> the phone the shock was too heavy, display touch screen was not working. I
> was very much annoyed to see the touch was not responding but the engineer
> was very clear on his statement “ This problem is only because of tamper
> in the board and the service center who repaired earlier will only be able
> to help”
>
> After a 20 mins of argument the engineer agreed to give the problem and
> additional touch no response after he opened the phone in writing. One of
> the attachment is the job sheet photo copy in which he had mentioned that
> the touch was working fine when it was received and stopped working when
> it was returned. I have made a special request to give all the findings in
> writing because till that time I was completely unaware of the damage which
> was done by Nokia care Anna nagar in the previous service also I don’t
> want them to say that my mobile display was physically damaged as it was
> working perfect time before I visit Nokia care Kodambakam.
>
> Visit to Anna nagar Nokia care started all good mobile & IMEI numbers were
> checked and the mobile was received under warranty also acknowledged with
> the Job sheet as a proof of my mobile submission . It was on Saturday 20th
> July 2013 the counter staff mentioned that I would receive a call from
> Nokia care only by Monday 22 -07-2013 for the delivery. Since no one
> from the service center called me till Monday evening I contacted the
> center by phone and I was happy to hear that they fixed the problem by
> updating the software and kept for observation and promised the delivery
> next day (23 -07-2013) I was expecting the call from the Nokia care on 23ed
> but the day gave disappointment only with no call at all. As a second time
> I contacted the Nokia care over the phone on 24-07-2013 and end up hearing
> the same old answer “ Your mobile is under observation, will give you call
> before the evening with confirmation for delivery. Surprisingly after 10
> mins I received a call from Nokia care and the lady staff who spoke to me
> said that they will replace the display with new one as the display in the
> phone presently is not repairable and requested to wait for 2 more days to
> change as they don’t have spare display in stock. I was happy at least some
> one called me.
>
> But this happiness didn’t last for hours around 5pm the same lady staff
> called me and said “ Sir your mobile display is not original” “ So it wont
> come under warranty you have to pay INR 15,000 to fix it.”
> Now I have started thinking “ Why I have decided to buy a Nokia mobile in
> spite of all my friends advise to buy HTC/Samsung)” My mind was only
> saying that I have wasted INR 37,000.
>
> With all this bundle of disappointments I have decided to visit the Nokia
> care to meet the manager in charge. The manager in charge, with no
> different told me the same thing which was told by their lady staff. This
> time I was not in any mood to argue hence I have made my point clear with
> saying that I will write all this mischief ‘s played on me to Nokia support
> time and will go for court of justice to claim all the damages caused my
> Nokia care including my advocate fees. After hearing this manager stood
> back from his word and requested for 2 day time as he would send my mobile
> to Nokia head office for verification and will give me a call before
> Saturday (27-07-2013) evening.
>
> After Saturday I have realized that Nokia pulled all my passions waiting
> for a responsible action. Till Wednesday no call from the Anna nagar Nokia
> care. As a first time I called Nokia care 30303838 and filed the
> complaint. August 1st today, I received a call from Nokia support team and
> enquired all the problems I have faced and the gentle man promised that
> someone from Nokia will call me within 72 hours with a resolution.
> I have clearly mentioned all this happenings to help/support your
> investigation.
>
> Attached are the 2 job sheets for your reference.
>
> Look forward to hear from.
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yes u r right i'm from egypt i feel cheated for buying e72 it's a big fail in the world of smart phones
i feel frustrated and even i'm afraid to even open my notification or inbox or even change themes or a wallpaper as all of the firmware is a complete failure and i went to nokia care 3 times and it happens to be located miles away from me and the nokia carless line as it is located at a saudi arabian country i can't understand their accent really they r really carless and when the line disconnect they never care to call u back (HTC ts careline)calls u after 3 min if line is disconnected
and the only way to get support is by this discussion support forum i hate my nokia it made my feel sick and really psychologicaly damaged .... and really i want to change it altough it's only 4 months old and i went to nokia care in the first 2 weeks can u belive that????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
any way i have anothe smart phone which is my old htc wm 6.1 and it's working more stable than my brand new expensive E72 which is **bleep** and rubbish
shame on u nokia
Nokia E72-1 Black
firmware : 053.001
of 26 of nov 2010

Not acceptable from nokia!

Recently stated by nokia
As for X7/E6: they are getting updates (PR1.1 is already in the pipeline and distributed as we speak) - but as I've stated we are not doing a big activity on those and I'm therefore not tracking them. If you are interested in those, switch on the software update autocheck in your phone and let it tell you as soon as it becomes available.
Here we see AGAIN nokia customers been let down and tossed aside like an empty can.
We where told nealry two weeks ago that the update for anna is available in ireland/uk.
From what im reading and hearing on irish networks be it sim free or not, a handfull and i mean a handfull of people have been able to update.
Why show lack of support for ireland/uk and the US. And leaving another batch of customers(current X7/E6 users) lagging behind.
Nokia should be supporting ALL variants,ALL regions and ALL countries.at ALL times.
As it stands we are still seeing ANNA been released in dribs and drabs.almost half way into september.
If i have helped at all a click on the white star below would be nice thanks.
Now using the Lumia 1520

vsigma wrote:
The point that Jimmy (and others I might add!) are trying to make is this:
Nokia has promised an update by a certain date a while back for Anna for everyone. They couldn't deliver. Users are now questioning why they, Nokia, promised something that they couldn't deliver, or *KNEW* that they couldn't deliver by that time frame, and simply *&^#&@%! bad PR moves by a company that which they love(d) products from.
@jraduga - you seem to be almost trying to do damage control FOR nokia's bad PR decisions on this forum based on the posts that you have thus far. Yeah - some people should chill out about this whole update. Heck, as a former Nokia loyalist - I would be freaking about it too. See, people wouldn't have cared or worried about this whole Anna business if Nokia didn't just randomly decided to tease folks about from Feb on. Heck, I am more than positive that most users would still be 99%+ content if they hadn't know about the whole Anna+Belle update is coming!
But the point is that Nokia promised and couldn't deliver. If they know they can't deliver - then stop teasing the user base and getting them annoyed. They're better off hammering it out throughly and then just releasing it quietly. It's not like they've sold *millions* of these particular batches of smartphones that *ALL* their servers would crash assuming that all of them attempted to update simultaneously. Nokia *KNOWS* that with their regional product code sets that how many devices are actually being used with every query from the device asking for an update from the previous smaller updates. They could easily do the math and determine what kind of server response they would need to have ready to dish out such an upgrade!
But then again, I'm speaking from a logical software/hardware management update schedule. Based on their previous trackrecord with other devices.. i'm not so sure it applies, and why Nokia wonders why their userbase is shrinking...
Ok so nokia is not perfect I've not commented either way on what has been said by them in regards to the promises made early in the year. Many companies that are releasing software or firmware based product fall behind. there is other phone manufacturers, one in particular
that are currently more than 9 months behind on their expected release date, but you know what i dont see people on their forums jumping up and down like those on here.
In regards to this point only, as far as I am concerned a general statement would be a better option for companies like these such as " we are currently working on a new release of ... and we believe it will benefit our customer base because of ..." something to keep interest in the company and the products without creating an unreal expectation of delivery timeframes.
I agree with you if you let it just slide thru the system then most people would be happy when they saw that they have an update, as opposed to waiting and expecting, which you will see that commented on in another post. The thing that gets me is that regardless of what was said as far as time frames, the release is happening, and yet people are still jumping up and down when it has been clearly explained that it being rolled out and that timeframes for each country or product code cannot be given until agreements are signed off and it is released. It been said over and over again, and yet they are still asking. Jimmy is concerned that his recently released x7/e6 is not getting some updates that he thinks he should be, so he is jumping up and down, when he 2 has been told only yesterday that roll outs are happening but that skyee is not tracking these herself as she is concentrating on the anna roll out. I truely dont care what promises were made or who teased who. we are not kids here. We are talking about roll out that are happening as we speak (or type lol), cant people show a little patience when they see things happening. cant people like jimmy whose phone has only just been release handle having to wait for a short time. What even gives him the impression that his phone even needs an update. This discussion is not about who said what 8 months ago or how long people have had to wait till it started to be rolled out.
Its about people demanding and constantly asking for things that they have already been told the answer to. I can understand frustration, i have used nokia products for more years than i care to remember and have been waiting for the release of the E7 in australia since it was first announced, even when it was available overseas for months before we got it here. All because the carriers had to agree with it and sign off on it after changes were made etc. when my old phone was dying more every day, when i could only be heard on it, if i used a bluetooth headset cause the mic wasnt working towards the end. but that little E90 hung on for me and even with all the faults that were going on with it, I was still able to use it and get all my details across to the E7. But did you see me on here complaining or whinging NO you didnt.
I can certainly undertand why the world has wars all the time. no body has any patience, as you would have seen in my other posts i'm from australia, we dont have the anna update and may not have it for a month. As you may or may not know Australia is about the 2nd largest market for smart phones in the world, and Nokia is still huge out here and yet we still dont have anna but how many of us do you see complaining, a couple here and a couple there. So what is it about the rest of the world that they all need to complain about it even when they have been given the answers they need.
They all defnietly need to chillout, if they cant and feel so strongly about it that they fill like they need to change their phone, then dont whinge about it, just do it. nokia will learn one way or another, if you all just leave then someone will have to ask questions. Soemtimes the loudest voices are the queitess ones. Cause when there is total silence people will start to listen. In the mean time read the posts, understand the posts and DONT keep asking the same questions over and over again when you have been told the answer!!!

Fring Not Working after upgrade to Anna

I recently upgraded from Symbian 3 to Anna on my Nokia N8. After upgrading, I downloaded and installed Fring and although its installed but its not logging in!
Before upgrade, I had Fring on my N8 and it was working without any issues.
Does anyone have any solution?

Email received from fring and I quote
"Thank you for contacting our support team.
Please note that your device is supported only using the Symbian ^3 version, the Anna and Belle updates are not supported by fring at this point, did you update your device to these latest versions? "
So why is this? Why are we constantly told to update when it just breaks things?

Nokia N8 Belle 'Vodafone skype app 'does not work

Hi
I spoke to vodafone oz, who said that Nokia have not sent belle over to them for testing yet....it's HIGHLY FRUSTATING to upgrade to belle, than not be able to use vodafone's own skype app (so i can get unlimited data very cheaply).....firstly it's a shame vodafone put a wrapper app behind skype in the first place!!! For now I have to just use skype from the ovi store and use my data allowance. Anyhow, will nokia be sending over belle anytime soon to vodafone australia????????? They said until they do and it passes testing, it won't be supported...I wish I had stuck with anna now, which nokia informed me can't be rolled back to. It seems nothing is easy!
cheers
Rick

Hi, thanks for the reply...the problem is that vodafone do UNLIMITED skype for $3...but you HAVE to download their skype wrapper program....the ovistore one is not free, as it uses data.....basically vodafone enforce you to use their skype wrapper program to get the unlimited data allocation.
I have the ovistore skype version, but this does not solve my problem. Vodafone are not supporting belle until nokia send them the sofware. They support anna, so thats why the skype wrapper program works with anna, and then you can use the unlinited $3 package.
Basicall for belle, when you choose skype for vodafone it says "phone not supported"
if you use anna, it says "phone supported" and vodafone skype program can be downloaded
is nobody else getting annoyed by this???????
cheers
Rick

PR 2.0 aká Anna. Big Failure Nokia!

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