Problem in subcontracting Po

Hi gurus,
I want to process some material fromsubcontractor. Problem is that material is going 2 subcontractor in Tons and coming in pieces and scrap is also returning to company. . So what process shud I follow so that all material which I sent to him shud be reconciled. e.g. I m preparing subcontracting PO for SF1111 with 1000 quantity. In BOM of SF1111, for one piece it requires suppose 3kg raw mat. So system will ask me to send 3000 KG, but physically it requires 3300 kg (considering scrap), so I made changes in PO, (component provided, I made it to 3300). So now system can transfer 3300 to vendor. Can u guide me for the rest of the process while receiving material so that all material shud be reconciled. Shall I hav to maintain alternate unit for SF1111?
Thanks

Hi Sarang,
Go through the following steps.
1. Create a Material master for Scrap material say XXXX.
2. In BOM, maintain the Material XXXX in negative quantity,
3. Now follow the regular process of subcontrating.
4. When you want to inward the scrap material from the subcontractor end, first receive the material XXXX with the movement type 545 ( This will make the material available in material provided to vendor stock ).
5. Then do a GR with 542 movement type to get the scrap material in to plant stock ( ie reversal of 541- Goods issue movement type)
Regards,
Nani.

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I am facing problem in subcontract challna reconcillation with J1IFQ
Subcontract PO created for Finish material 'XYZ' qty 250 Nos   one raw material 'ABC' one qty required for each finish good   but in PO   user have added 450 quanity of raw material now for Finish product for quanity 250 three Grs made
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Hi,
We have a Subcontracting PO with item
category 'L' and account assignment
category 'Q'. While goods reciept
against PO, for 543 it is taking project
stock(Q) from storage location instead
of vendor stock(O).Please provide the
solution(with CIN details, 57F4 challan creation and reconcillation)
or is there any other process to handle this?
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DEAR CONS
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Dear Nirupama Swain,
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4 The Semi finished Material is received from the Vendor through 101 movement. A 543 movement occurs for the components
5. The subcontracting challan is reconciled.
6. The challan completion process is carried out.
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and
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Yes receiving is a physical activity not a computer activity but what I want to say is that even if X is physically received, the user should not be able to MIGO it if the components issued (subcontractor stock) is not settled. When I MIGO the received items and enter 0 quantity for the issued component the system lets it be. Instead the system should issue an error implying that all components have not been issued to vendor, so you can not receive X until you have issued all Y.
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Edited by: pradeep.spk on Oct 24, 2011 7:14 AM

Thanks for your reply Nishant but the problem is subcontracting charges should not be cancelled. The packing job done by vendor was paid and it is irrevokable.
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best regards!
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        zhao gang
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Please help me!!
I have an error!
Fld selectn for mvmt type 543 / acct 2026800 differs for Cost center (010)
Message no. M7093
Diagnosis
Comparison of the field selection strings from movement type 543 and G/L
     account 2026800 has revealed that there is an incompatible field
     selection combination at one or more points.
Field for which the field selection is different: Cost center
Example
On the movement type screen, a given field is a mandatory-entry field,
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System response
You cannot post this transaction, unless you have changed the field
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Procedure
Contact your system administrator.
Action to be taken by the system administrator
Check whether any postings resulting from this movement type are to be
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>
sachin shelke wrote:
> Hi Experts,
>
> I face subcontracting reconcillation problem.
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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