Profit center change in product cost collector

Hi All,
I would like to know what precautions we should take for mass changes of profit center corrections in the "Product Cost Collector".
I want to make same profit centers in material master and in product cost collector for that we need some report on "Product Cost Collector" or table name so that we may compare the profit center in material master and Product cost collector in order to make them in sink.
Regads,
Raj

Hi All,
My query is from which T-code of product cost collector or any table by i get matrial and profit center combination.
Also i would like to know any precaution if any change of profit center in material master for product cost collector (privious is X cost center and now i am changing to say Y).
Regds,
Raj
Edited by: RBS123 on Jul 15, 2009 8:24 AM

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