Profit Center derivation in F-02 transaction

Hi All,
In F-02 transaction, after keying in GL account and other details, a Profitability Segment pop-up screen is displayed. We enter a Sales Order & Item number and click on u2018Derivationu2019 button. System is automatically populating various fields like Customer, Product, Sales Organization, etc. from the Sales Order number entered. The u2018Profit Centeru2019 field alone is not getting populated with the value available in the Sales Order.
Business requirement is that the Profit Center field in this pop-up should get determined from the Sales Order & Item number entered in this screen. I would like to know if this a Standard SAP functionality to determine PC from the Sales Order? If not please suggest options for achieving this.
Note: Currently in our client system this field is getting determined from the Dummy Profit Center assigned to the Controlling Area.
Thanks in advance.
Best Regards,
Bharath

hi,
check is there any user exit available which can be used.

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The field Profit Center marked as balancing is not filled with any value in line item 001, even after document splitting.
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The field Profit Center marked as balancing is not filled with any value in line item 001, even after document splitting.
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Procedure
First check your entries.
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