Profit Centre substitution

Hi,
I've created an IO master without inputting the cost centre & profit centre. However, when I enter the IO in the line item of a P&L, the dummy profit centre was substituted. I would want to key in any cost centre & profit centre in my line item as well, that is why i purposely left the cost centre & profit centre fields blank in my IO master.
How do I prevent the dummy profit centre from being substituted?
Pls advise.
Thank You & Best Regards,
Ethan

If Profit center accounting is activated the P&L acount entry should be posted to some profit center.
When a P&L transaction is posted to the internal order (Real object) it should go to the dummy profit center, since you have not assigned any Profit center to the internal order,
Before you post the transaction you can replace the Dummy profit center in the profit center field with desired profit center manually (Overwite Dummy profit center with the desired profit center)
The mandatory requirement of profit centerposting is to reconcile Profit Center accounting with the fFnancial Accounting.
At the period end process all the transactions in Dummy profit center should be settled to the right profit centers.
We should use Profit Center monitor to see that any Account assignment objects or Cost object are not assigned to Profit Center. If you find any objects witout profit center assignment, you should assign relevant profit center to those objects.
If you leave those objects without profit center assignment, the dummy profit center will come into picture when you use those unassigned objects for any FI or CO transaction.
Hope you are clear now.
Prasad

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Edited by: Yun-Chung Yung on Jun 3, 2010 10:46 PM

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