Pulling Profit Centers from AR
Hi,
We are currently using 0FI_AR_4 extractor to pull AR related information. One of our requirements requires us to analyze by Profit Centers. From what I understand profit centers are derived at material level hence the current extractors is not able to pick up this information if there are more than 1 material. How do I go about pulling this information ? I believe data needs to be pulled from table BSAS / BSIS ? Should i use 0FI_GL_4 instead ?
You are right, 0FI_AR_4 and 0FI_AP_4 pulls from BSID/BSAD and BSIK/BSAK but I am also not able to find any standard extractor for BSIS and BSAS.
One way around for this is to create your own extractor.
For profit center accounting you have standard extractor, chk EC-PCA in RSA5.
Similar Messages
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How to move Profit centers from one hierarchy to another.
Hi All - In Standard hierarchy in our Profit center accounting, we have in KCH6N as below and doing posting to these successfully.
1. C1470 - 000001470 Profit center
2. C1472 - 000001472 Profit center
Now for some Business reason, we need to temporarily move above said profit centers in their hierarchy to another one C1410. So Users could post a journal entry and then move the profit centers back to their current location.
After we make the change, It should be
C1410 - 000001470 Profit center
C1410 - 000001472 Profit center
Can you please suggest me how to move the Profit centers from one hierarchy to another. Can you please let me know how to make this change.
ThanksHi Hoysala,
This is not the best practice, to change profit center hierarchy node to another node, just for the sake of JV.
If you have to allocate a cost/revenue from one cost center/profit center to another, I would advise you to use manual allocation/distribution process, as per your business reason (Profit Center Allocation/Cost Center Allocation), rather than changing hierarchy nodes.
You can use 3KE5-Execute Actual Assessment and 4KE5-Execute Actual Distribution from Profit Center 1470/1472 to the profit center under node C1410, without moving profit center from one node to another.
http://veritysolutions.com.au/2012/07/03/overhead-allocations-in-sap-new-gl/
Regards
Javed -
Profit Centers(CEPCT) selection with Wild Characters(*) condition
HI, I'm trying to select Profit centers from CEPCT table for the given profit center parameter. here I'm trying with wild characters.
for example: 1.
* check if wild character exists
FIND c_st IN p_i_profit_ctr.
IF sy-subrc EQ 0.
* replace * with %
REPLACE ALL OCCURRENCES OF c_st IN p_i_profit_ctr WITH c_pr.
* get profit center list for given pattern
SELECT prctr "Profit Center
ktext "General Name
FROM cepct INTO TABLE t_profit_ctr
WHERE spras = c_en "english language
AND prctr LIKE p_i_profit_ctr. "profit center
CEPCT table data is:
Profit Center
0000001000
0000002000
CORPORATE
(1) when I try with C*, i'm getting properly.
(2)when I try with 1, I'm getting it properly.
(3) when I try with 1*, not getting data even if 1000 is available. this is beacuse leading zeores in the table.
Could anyone please help me out how do I write a qeury to rectrive the above. (Note: we may not be sure how many zeroes to be included, I hope this is not good practive to include zeroes because in case of 200/2000 which will not work and for chars which will not be good code)
thanks in advance.Hi,
Its better to specify a range for profit center in the selection screen and he use in your query as follows:
Example :
ranges r_profcent FOR GLPCA-RPRCTR.
Query to fetch Range:
SELECT PRCTR INTO R_PROFCENT-LOW
FROM CEPC
WHERE ( PRCTR BETWEEN '0000001111' AND '0000009999'
OR PRCTR = 'DUMMY' )
AND KOKRS = '1000'.
R_PROFCENT-SIGN = 'I'.
R_PROFCENT-OPTION = 'EQ'.
APPEND R_PROFCENT.
Use of range in Query:
SELECT REFDOCNR RPRCTR BLDAT BUDAT
FROM GLPCA CLIENT SPECIFIED
APPENDING CORRESPONDING FIELDS OF TABLE ITAB1
WHERE RCLNT = SY-MANDT
AND RPRCTR IN R_PROFCENT
AND RACCT IN GLACNO
Hope it could help you out.
Regds,
Anil -
Is it possible to remove profit centers from the "List of Distribution Rules" that appears, when using the Tab key in the profit center field on "Service type" sales orders, invoices etc.
We are trying to avoid profit centers being chosen that are no longer valid (SBO 2005)hi,
By applying authorization to form settings u can restrict selection of profit centre,
Remove visible tick of ProfitCode/OcrCode in Document Settings and applying authorization
to form settings as General ---> Document Settings ---> No Authorization.
U can restrict unwanted profit codes by applying formatted search using query
in field profitCode/OcrCode.
SELECT T0.PrcCode, T0.PrcName FROM OPRC T0 WHERE T0.PrcCode IN ('Plant-1','Plant-4')
Hope it helps. -
Hi gurus,
I am having a hard time trying to inherit the profit centers from the original documents for follow on documents such as Interest.
Do you know if there is any event or standard configuration where I should indicate that the profit center should be inherited, and not taken from the customizing point "Define CO Account Assignment Keys" and "Automatic G/L Account Determination"->"IS-U: Define Acct Assignment Data Relevant to Transactions".
Thanks
Edited by: BPX PARTNERS on May 15, 2008 12:53 AMHello,
I did not get you. Profit centers are attached in the Config EK02. Based on your MT/ST- Profit Center combination, your document would be posted.
If this is not what you are looking for, pls let me know the requirement in detail
Hope this helps
Rgds
Rajendra -
CO account assignments have different profit centers - Message no. BK 134
I am getting this error when I am executing the Depreciation run for the month.
"CO account assignments have different profit centers"
Message no. BK 134
SAP Diagnosis
You entered multiple CO account assignments objects assigned to different profit centers. In a document item, however, all CO account assignments objects with profit center assignments must be assigned to the same profit center.---> how to check this?
Any one have nay idea how to solve this issue?
thanks in advance.
Edited by: Rajesha Vittal on Apr 8, 2008 2:59 PMHi
This is happend because of the multiple assignement of the profit center and multiple assignments in asset master (both cost center and internal order entered in the master record), that means - in Cost center one profit center (PC01) and in Internal order another profit center (PC02) is used. Becuase of this system is trying to post the amount from one document to two different profit center. as per logic it is not possible.
Solution :
First this is not happend in the previous month and for the first time it is happening that means, the assets which came newly this month or the asset which have been posted this month...so seperate those entries first from the other entries.
For this purpose first get the list of assets from table - ANLA based on the acquisition date happend in this month (problem creating month) ERDAT & AEDAT& ZUGDT. Give the list for the below selection.
Get the data which is having entries both field in the Table - ANLZ : Fields : ANLZ - KOSTL, ANLZ - CAUFN.
Seperate the cost center & internal order and check the profit centers from the Table -CSKS (Cost centers) & AUFK (Internal order)
Either change the asset or change the profit centers in the CC / IO...better option remove the IO from the Asset master
VVR -
We need to transfer amount from one profit center to another profit centers
Dear Gurus,
We need to transfer amount from one profit center to another profit centers, wrongly posted how to do it?
GL 600000 Sales a/c Domestic,
around 5000 FI documents has post in worn profit center
In the billing with material line items showing the correct profit center.
we want reverse the GL 600000 a/c in our system what will be the impact in COPA Reporting. and how to do it?
Pls advice me for the above said issues as we are nearing the year end pls help me.
Thanks..SriramaHai,
You can do profit center posting 9ke0
Profit center will derive from Material in your case it seems some subtitution changing the correct profit center in material master and putting this wrong profit center
Profit center is not the deciding factor for COPA reports so there wouldn't be any impact in COPA report
BR
VSN -
How to distribute from cost center to profit centers?
Dear Experts,
We have created profit centers as per business. We have certain expenses that are common. e.g. IT, A/c, HR etc. We have created cost centers for the same. Now we want to assign it to various PCs. How to distribute from cost center to profit centers?
With Regards,
Ajeesh S
Moderator: Please, avoid asking basic questionsAssign profit center in cost center master data at KS02. It will directly post to profit center
Srinivas -
Profit center balances transfer from old profit centers to new profit cente
Dear All,
My client wants to deactivate all cost centers and profit centers and create new cost centers and new profit centers for new fiscal year 2009.
So here my queries are
1. Putting an end date to the existing cost center and creating the New cost center now itself in the system with effective date as 1st April 09?
I changed validity period in cost center but it does not accept.
2. How to restrict postings to profit center from April, 2009 ? even changed validity period and changed as inactive mode in profit center,
It is allowing postings to profit center.
3. How the balances need to be transferred to New profit centers? I tried in 9KE0 T.code but in this T.code we can transfer profit center and GL A/C wise
but here we have around 20 profit centers and 100 above Gls, so it will take so much of time, so kindly suggest me short way.
4. And When can we transfer balances to New profit centers i.e April 1st or after completions of Audit? because client wants to post pending transactions of 2008 FY
to old profit centers in April and May months. So in this situation how can i proceed?
5. For mapping the Assets & Liabilities balances as on 31st Mar 2009 to New profit center the following need to be provided
A. Profit center wise Trail balance
( For this i suggested S_PL0_86000030 t.code) is this correct?
B. Profit center wise Balances of Subsidiary Ledgers i.e Vendors, Customers & Assets
6. On which date I can close 2008 FY& open 2009 fiscal year for Assets?
Please guide and provide me solutions above my queries.
This would be great help for me, Thanks in advance.
Thanks & Regards,1. You can block cost centers and profit centers and create new or can use same by changing analysis period Eg: KS02 > Edit > Analysis period
2. Select lock indicator in profit center master record
3. Write LSMW to that
6. At the end of you fiscal year close the asset period and do all year end transactions and open new asset period
You can use S_PL0_86000030 check it
Kesh -
Hi Experts,
Am running FBL3N-G/L Line Item Display, and am trying to get PROFIT CENTERS for Balanace sheet type of accounts, but Its not showing up.
But, am getting for Profit Loss accounts.
1) Why its so?
2) Then How to get the PROFIT CENTERS for them? (I know they r available, in BSEG)
3) Functional owner said(tele talk, no voice clear!!!) that, the Profit Centers are NOT get updated UNTIL month end, unless run the F.5D, 1KEK, KE5Z tx.s., which inturn system copies the profit centers(I dont know that, From where it copies) and posts/updates(I dont know, Wht get updated?), so, he said, relying on ??(is it BSEG??????) is not works out!!
So, let me know that,
Wht does its mean? Wht NOt get updated until month end?unless run the F.5D, 1KEK, KE5Z tx.s? Is it DataBase? BSEG?
4) Is BSEG table get updated, as soon as any FICO document ceated by user? I mean, Can I relay on BSEG always, for pulling the profit centers data for Balance sheet accounts, all the time?
5) If NOT, them Where Can I find them?
thanqHi Srinivas,
You have to declare balance sheet accounts as relevant for PCA inside 3KEH transaction in config. So you mark the balance sheet accounts that should appear in PCA in 3KEH with a default profit center which can be overwritten with the use entry.
Fixed Assets, AR/AP and WIP can be transferred into PCA at the monthend. PCA is a separate ledger, has its own set of tables and reports. Inventory and other balance sheet accounts are posted into PCA online.
Hope this helps.
Sharabh Ivaturi -
Hi Experts,
Am running FBL3N-G/L Line Item Display, and am trying to get PROFIT CENTERS for Balanace sheet type of accounts, but Its not showing up.
But, am getting for Profit Loss accounts.
1) Why its so?
2) Then How to get the PROFIT CENTERS for them? (I know they r available, in BSEG)
3) Functional owner said(tele talk, no voice clear!!!) that, the Profit Centers are NOT get updated UNTIL month end, unless run the F.5D, 1KEK, KE5Z tx.s., which inturn system copies the profit centers(I dont know that, From where it copies) and posts/updates(I dont know, Wht get updated?), so, he said, relying on ??(is it BSEG??????) is not works out!!
So, let me know that,
Wht does its mean? Wht NOt get updated until month end?unless run the F.5D, 1KEK, KE5Z tx.s? Is it DataBase? BSEG?
4) Is BSEG table get updated, as soon as any FICO document ceated by user? I mean, Can I relay on BSEG always, for pulling the profit centers data for Balance sheet accounts, all the time?
5) If NOT, them Where Can I find them?
thanq
Edited by: Srinivas on Apr 7, 2008 3:42 PMno repy
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How can I get all prctr ( profit centers ) ?
While creating function module,
I have created import parameter as 'ZIMPORT_PRCTR' for Profit Center
( cepc-prctr ) in my zfunction module .
It takes( imports ) input of multiple values Profit Center.
Next what I need to do is, if end user enters multiple values of profit center
( IF ZIMPORT_PRCTR[] IS NOT INITIAL. )
Then I have to use user entered values for picking up some other data from other tables.
Ques). IF user dont enter any profit center value, then
I need to take all profit centers into consideration and pick up other data from other tables .
How can I get all profit centers ( if user doest enters any value )
And I don't have any values to use in my where condition ?
Could you please help me ?create one structure in Se11 like
profit center low
profit center high
option
sign ( Like select-option ,see the rsparams structure),use this strucire in Function module ..
when compare the data in select query ,in where condition use as in operator,if user does not enter any value ,it gets the all the value from table. -
Usage of Cost Centers, Profit Centers and Internal Orders
Hello everyone,
i have perhaps for some of you a simple question but it bothers me alot.
Imagine we are using Cost centers and Internal Orders. For them we create statistical key figures using transaction KB31N.
Now we are installing SAP BI and want to create a report which would be generated acording to cost centers but with statistical key figures.
The question would be how to make a connection between cost centers orders and those stat.key.figs?
In our case the economists say that we are using this kind of scenario:
Dist.chanel ->
Sender: Cost center, Cost element
Receiver: Int.Order
and Stat key fig.
This is the only place where we have a connection between thos objects. Is there other way how to connect them. perhaps using profit centers?
If somebody didnt understand it, maybe ill try to explain it a bit better
Reagards
Laurynas PrikockisHi Laurynas,
Pls try to understand the concept as explained hereunder...
Cost Element:
Primary Cost Element : Replication of GL to bring costs into CO module when they are posted in FI
module
Secondary Cost Elements: Carriers of costs between two Cost Objects (when we want to transfer the
cost from Cost Centers to Internal Orders, vice versa and more, we create
Secondary Cost Elements to carry the costs and transfer them to the
reciever objects from sender objects)
Cost Center: It is a Cost Object, maintained on long-term basis, where we can capture the costs (Ex:
Marketing Cost Center)
Internal Order: It is also a Cost Object, maintained on shor-term basis, where we can capture the costs
(Ex: Internal Order for Special Marketing Campaign). Ultimately, whatever the costs
posted to this Internal Order, will get settled to Marketing Cost Center.
Staitistical Key Figure: It is used as a basis for allocation of certain expenses (Simple example would
be, Total rent paid for office is $100000 per month. This cost has to go to
different Cost Centers like Finance and Accounts, Marketing, Purchase Dept
etc on the basis of "Area Occupied". So, We will define "Area Occupied" as a
Statistical Key Figure in our system.
Now, when the Rent amount is posted in FI, it wil reach a Virtual Cost Center
(An "Allocation Cost Center" with name "Rent" to be created under your
Controlling Area) "Rent". From there, it has to reach the other Cost Centers (lie
F&A etc as explained above) on the basis of Area Occupied (SKF Created
for "area occupied")
For this, you need enter the Area Occupied values (Ex:Sq Ft) in KB31N and you need to create an Allocation Cycle (Distribution / Assessment) where in you will select "Area Occupied" (SKF) as your Receiver Tracing Factor.
I hope I am clear, don't hesitate to revert back for more explanation...
Srikanth Munnaluri
Edited by: Srikanth Munnaluri on Mar 3, 2009 7:26 PM -
Repostings of data in profit centers
Hi!
any one can tell me can we report revenues between profit centers as we will done in the case of Cost Centers ( KB11N,KB61)?
Not through distribution and assessment.
I have configured some revenue elements to internal order in OKB9 and in internal order profit center is assigned.
As we forgotten to insert profit center in internal orders, all revenues posted to Dummy profit center.
Now we want to repost from dummy profit center to actual profit center.
regs,
rameshHi,
You can always repost the values from dummy profit center to correct profit center.
Please try the relevent option.
Let me know if u have questions
Best Regards
Surya -
Hi,
I have a few doubts about the need of EC-PCA in a project where COPA is being implemented.
The client would like to get info about the profitabilyty of organisation units as well as products, groups of products, clients and so on.
However he is unable to assign materials to only one profit center (which would be production departaments in this case). Different Finished goods, semi finished goods, wares and services can be assigned to more than one production departament. (a material index cannot be assigned to only one PC in this case).
What would u advise me? Should I use EC-PCA but change the PC hierarchy or COPA is enough for these purposes?
Best wishes,
Karol
Message was edited by:
Karol WDear Karol,
Here the some infirmation is about Profit center related and cost center.hope this infirmation will helps you
You would need check the design of PCA and what the business wants to use PCA for. For example do you want to produce P&L Statements and or Balance Sheets by Profit centers etc.
In terms of the cost center assignment to profit centers, the main use of this is to ensure that all costs posted to a cost center will be simultaneously posted to the assigned Profit center. Now in PCA configuration you have to create a "Dummy Profit Center", the consequence of this is that if a profit center cannot be derived (for example if you do not maintain a profit center in the material master) or from the cost center or a profit center is not entered in a posting, the entry will be automatically posted to the "Dummy" profit center.
In terms of design, we are faced, in certain circumstances when we design PCA along the product lines for example, what to do with certain postings such as bank charges or admin costs, which are not directly attributable to the product line.
One way to treat these, is to Create a "Corporate" or "ADMIN" Profit center and assign all the service cost centers to this Profit center and at month end re-allocate to the Product Line Profit center via Distribution or Assessment for example based on sales volume or fixed amounts or percetntages or SKF's to make the reporting more meaningful
create additional profit centers and assign all admn, IT other than production cost centers to either Common, Admin or Corporate profit centers. Suggest you create following non product cost centers
1) Corporate
2) Admin
3) Product Common
Assign profit centers to cost centers logically
In MM master records assign product related profit centers to RM and FG / SFG material types. This takes care from material accounting point of view in PCA
For transfer of costs collected in Non Product related profit centers proceed as follows
1) Create PCA assessment Cycles
2) At month end allocate these expenses and check cost in non product profit centers is zero.
3) Decide on the allocation basis
4) This ensures that you have PCA wise all P&L items accounted.
5) You can then design PCA wise report painter reports for PCA wise P&L
Hope the above will help you
Prem.
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