Purchasing a Early 2013 MBP Refurb

I'm going to be purchasing a Refurb 2013 MBP, i7 / 16GB of RAM / 512GB SSD / 650M from the Apple Online Store. My question is this: On my PC I have a pretty expensive motherboard that powers my speaker system extremely well and gives it some great sound, I find that when I plug the system into my Late 2007 iMac the quality and depth of the sound is far less than on my PC. Is this going to be an issue on my MBP as well or are the newer integrated sound chips more powerful?
Thanks for any insight.

As far as I believe, Blackmagic Disk Speed Test only writes small chunks of data and uses some calculation and predicition to 'meassure' the speed of the disk. It doesnt really write an large amount of data to the disk. But when you copy some large files, or install/update big software like Adobe, the fans will kick in after a few minutes. I can reproduce this every time with copying files, while the temperatures are just fine.
As you say there is about no CPU and IO usage, what are the temperatures of your system? Is it actually running hot when the fans kick in, or they're just moving cold air? Unlikely, but there might be a air intake/temperature sensor issue with yours. Try copying some large files, if the fans don't kick it, its not IO related. Then we've canceled that out, and an that case I recommend visiting a genius, as it indicates something else is wrong with your machine.

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