Rebate accurals

hi,
sap gurus,
good after noon to all,
i configured rebate agreements and there is no any fault in configuration of rebates.
but when i am posting the billing document to accounting
it saving but it is saying that error in account determination in the brackets, and saving the billing
document.
what might be the mistake i checked every thing but i am not able to solve the problem on my own.
regrds,
balajiq

Hi
First go and do Billing updation by using T.Code VBOF
thereu will find Test indicator just untick and save that docs.
and kindly check whether u hav properly assign a/c key ERB and ERU there at Pricing procedure V/08 abd did automatic account determination under VKOA with ref to Cond table 4
and also u hav activate rebate at Sales org/Billing / Cus master record
thanks
mahesh

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First go and do Billing updation by using T.Code VBOF
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Hi all,
well have created material rebate in vbo1 & the rebate is for 50 .In vf02 in accounting doc the amounts are displayed as :
ERU rebate accurals : 50, & reverse for other :50 .
can u pl let me know wts the amount 50 ,which says reverse for others.
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REBATE SETTLEMENT ERROR.

Hi all,
well have created material rebate in vbo1 & the rebate is for 50 .In vf02 in accounting doc the amounts are displayed as :
ERU rebate accurals : 50, & reverse for other :50 .
can u pl let me know wts the amount 50 ,which says reverse for others.
2nd part while paying partial settlemt with amount 20 ERB is posted with the amount 20 . and ERU says 20 & the same 20 is shown across reverse for others
3rd part balance 30 is settled in full but sill its open .
The final settlement amount is being doubled even its settled .
MY concern is should i do final settlement or any other procedure to settle rebates .
Regards,
jerry .

Hi jerry
First of all i didnt understood what is reverse for others . Actually what is the scenario. As far as my understanding goes ,
First of all , when you do billing and save it .It goes to FI then the amount falls in the ERB account . But it gets accumulated in the rebates. until you issue credit memo to the customer.
Now once after billing , as it hits the ERB G/L account , and again when you settle the rebate amount and issue the credit memo to the customer ,then it hits the ERU G/L account.
But reverse happens only when the amount exceeds. say for example if the customer rebate amount is Rs.500 as per our billing but when you generate take the statical data S060 then the rebate amount may be Rs.400. Then the excess amount will be reversed .
Hope this information helps you. Let me know if you have any queries
Regards
Srinath

Rebate Acccural Accounts

Dear SAP SD Experts ,
1. In case of Rebate Accurals we have the Account determination as follows.
for Material Rebate:      Account key ERB and Accural Key ERU.
In the Account determination What I find is G/L Accounts Have been hit with ERU accural keys
But what Happened to ERB ---there is no posting in G/l Accounts.
Please explain this ?
2.
and Next Question is in VKOA What is the Purpose of the Provisional accounts G/L
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A S
Edited by: SAP Consultant on Nov 29, 2008 2:54 PM

Dear SAINATH,
What I can see i will Just Elaborate:
BO02 (Rebate material)      Assignment Account Key (ERB)                        Accural (ERU).
In the T-code: VKOA:
Chart of Acc+ Condi Type+ Custo Acc Grp+ Mat Ac Grp)
+ ERB   = 45022800
2nd
Chart of Acc+ Condi Type+ Custo Acc Grp+ Mat Ac Grp)
+ ERU     =       14780010 (G/L )     &    14780040 (Prov. G/L)
In VF02 Condition Type BO02 double click
Shows that ERB = 14780010 (G/L )
&               ERU = 14780040 (Prov. G/L)
Accounting document : (G/L) Debit and (Prov. G/L) Credit entry
Now My Qyestion is ERB is assigned to different G/L Accounts Why there is no entry in the Accounting document for G/L 45022800.
Please explain
regards,
A S

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Greetings!!
My issue is that I have created new g/l for rebate accurals.Now whenever billing is happining it calculates the rebate twicely and as a result for the same record it shows double entries in that particular g/l.Actually in invoice itself it should show only one condtion which b001 which was set during rebate agreement creation.But for any reason the same condition repeating automatically while generating the invoice.
Experts,Please do let me know will it be anything releated configuration or something else which is duplicating the condition in invoice.
Any help would be highly appriciated.
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Hi
possible reasons:
1) Rebate cond record maintained twice.
2) Rebate cond type maintained twice in your pric procedure.
3) Some steps changed in pric proc and your rebate cond type appears twice in the quality system though not intended due to incorrect transport movements.
Check all of the above and let us know to help you further..or I hope one of the above helps.
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I have rebate agreement type which allows only manual accurals ( no need to create sales orders).
But if i go to the condition record and try to post manual accural it gives me an error accural value exceeds 0.00 value.
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Hi Praveena,
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Dear SAINATH,
What I can see i will Just Elaborate:
BO02 (Rebate material)      Assignment Account Key (ERB)                        Accural (ERU).
In the T-code: VKOA:
Chart of Acc+ Condi Type+ Custo Acc Grp+ Mat Ac Grp)
+ ERB   = 45022800
2nd
Chart of Acc+ Condi Type+ Custo Acc Grp+ Mat Ac Grp)
+ ERU     =       14780010 (G/L )     &    14780040 (Prov. G/L)
In VF02 Condition Type BO02 double click
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&               ERU = 14780040 (Prov. G/L)
Accounting document : (G/L) Debit and (Prov. G/L) Credit entry
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Please explain
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Hi Sap gurus!
I have a rebate condition, ZBO3, and a reference condition of that, ZZO3 in the same sales pricing procedure. I have two agreements for the same condition rebate, ZBO3. When I create a billing document, it finds and displays the two agreements for the rebate condition but only finds and displays the first agreement with the reference condition ZZO3.
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Hi
If the customer has returned the materials then create the Returns order (with ref to billing doc) and then do billing then automatically the accruals value get reduced and as the customer has returned the stocks for that also this flow will be working . So if you do the following flow then the accurals value will get adjusted and the materials will also be taken back
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I need your help in rebate agreements (RA).
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hi
Rebates Processs in SAP is divided into three components
1) Configuring Rebates
2) Setting Up Rebates
3) Managing rebate agreeeements and payments
Pre-requsiistes- Check the following:
1.The payer partner needs toi have the rebate field checked in the customer master on the sales area-billing doc tab.
2.The Billing type must be marked as relevant for rebates.
3.The Sales Organisation must be marked as relevant for rebates.
Condition Technique :
Rebates, use the condition technique, but distinguish themselves from pricing in applying to transactions over time, versus on a transaction basis. Rebates have their wn field catalog and their own condition table naming convention.So you could have two condition table "001" one for pricing and one for rebates, which could have different key fields. You need to use the technical names A001 For pricing and KOTe001 for rebates when you use the query type using transaction SE 16..
Use create access sequence (AS). Enter 1 in field category for rebate specific. AS after going thru the right path of maintaining access sequence for rebates.
The big difference between the rebate and the pricing access sequence is that there is no exclsuion flag available for rebate related AS. This means multiple tables for an access sequence can be aplied at the same time.
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Payments can be maunal or in full settlement. When you do manual payments, it defines how much can be paid out during a partial settlemetn. You use partial settlement only when rebate agreement is defined for a full year but the paoyouts are supposed to happen on a monthly, quarterly or anyother specified period.
These accurals are based on sales volume and when they are posted billing is created int eh follwoing manner. Provision for accruals is debited and Sales revenue is credited. When rebate credit memo is created
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Hi,
I have following questions sinc eiam doing rebates for first time.
1) in the billing document, the rebates are calculated as per the the accrual rates in rebates condition records. My question if the invoice is for Rs 100 and accrual rebate amt in invoice is rs 2. will the customer pay Rs 98 against this invoice of full Rs 100.
2) what happens during manual accruals. why a credit memo request is generated during manual accruals. what happens to accruals as per condition records.
3) what happens during partial settlement. do the accruals already poested gets reduced to the extent of amount of partial settlement. do manaul accruals have any role to play during partial settlement
4) what happens during final settlement. do manual accruals have any role to play during final settlement i.e. do they get reversed and what happens to accurals posted as per rebate conditon records.
regards
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Dear Sachin,
1) in the billing document, the rebates are calculated as per the the accrual rates in rebates condition records. My question if the invoice is for Rs 100 and accrual rebate amt in invoice is rs 2. will the customer pay Rs 98 against this invoice of full Rs 100.
Ans --> Customer need to pay Rs 100 only , rebate amount will paied to the customer after completion of the rebate duration in between there will be partial settlement.
2) what happens during manual accruals. why a credit memo request is generated during manual accruals. what happens to accruals as per condition records.
Ans--> Manual Accruals
Use
Posting accruals manually can be useful in different situations such as:
Lump sum payments
Accruals correction
You can control at which time and for which amount the accruals should be posted.
You can build accruals for a particular condition record or reverse them in part or in full.
When you save the rebate agreement, the system will automatically create a credit memo request. The system uses this document to create a credit memo. When the credit memo is released, the accruals are posted to FI.
If you have posted accruals manually, but these have not been passed on to financial accounting, the manual accruals and manual payments in the rebate agreement are blocked.
3) what happens during partial settlement. do the accruals already poested gets reduced to the extent of amount of partial settlement. do manaul accruals have any role to play during partial settlement
Ans->Partial Settlement
Use
You can also partially settle a rebate agreement during its validity period. The amount to be paid can be limited in Customizing for Sales. Payments can be:
limited to the cumulative accruals of the condition record
limited to the amount that would be paid if final settlement were presently carried out
unlimited
You carry out partial settlement by using the manual payment screen within rebate agreement processing. On this screen you can specify the amount to be paid for each condition record.
The system will automatically create a credit memo request for the amounts specified.
It will also reverse the accruals with the credit memo if the rebate agreement type is configured accordingly. If the payment exceeds the recordu2019s accumulated accruals, the system will only reverse the accruals which are actually there.
The system gives you the opportunity to carry out additional partial settlements when previous partial settlements remain open in the form of credit memo requests or credit memos. The system always takes open documents into account when determining the maximum amount which you can pay.
When the system carries out final settlement for a rebate agreement, it takes all partial payments into account.
4) what happens during final settlement. do manual accruals have any role to play during final settlement i.e. do they get reversed and what happens to accurals posted as per rebate conditon records.
Ans-->Final settlement
Use
When you carry out final settlement of a rebate agreement, the system automatically
calculates the rebate based on the sales volume statistics or the lump sum
deducts any previously paid rebates
It then creates a credit memo request, and proposes the end date of the agreement validity period as the billing date.
The system also reverses any accruals that have been posted.
Depending on Customizing, when the system creates a credit memo request, the document is automatically blocked for billing. After approving the credit memo request, the person responsible can remove the billing block. You can then create the final credit memo.
When you want to search for credit memo requests during sales order processing, you can use the matchcode F "Credit memo request for rebate".
You can carry out final settlement of rebate agreements
automatically
Manually
as a background task (in batch)
Settling Single Rebate Agreements
You can carry out settlement directly from within a rebate agreement.
Before you save the rebate agreement you can still carry out changes to the credit memo request:
The credit memo request is only saved when you save the rebate agreement.
Carrying out Final Settlement as a Background Task
If the volume of your sales rebate processing is high, you can collectively process rebate settlements as a background task.
The following reports are available:
RV15C001
RV15C002
Your system administrator can use these reports to generate a list of rebate agreements, based on various selection criteria, such as rebate recipient, status of the agreement, and so on.
Background processing can then be carried out later. I.e., after the regular posting periods.
After a list is generated, the rebate agreements can be analyzed or processed for payment.
For more information about settling rebates as a background task, see your system administrator.
I hope it will help you,
Regards,
Murali.

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Hi,
what is the difference between manual accurals and manual payment in a rebate scenario.
1)can someone explain a functional scenario.
2) also iam aware that a credit memo request and then a credit memo is made in case of a manual payment.
what document type(debit memo request or credit memo req) is made in case of a manual accrual and why ?
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Dear Sachin,
In rebate process we ahve Manuall accruals and Posting accruals manually but I don't know about manual payment.
Please go through this SAP help link it will help you about Rebates process detailly in the Sales and Distribution.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/dd/561270545a11d1a7020000e829fd11/frameset.htm
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