Rebate agreement with specified maximum quantity/value

Hi,
We have a requirement, to give a certain discount to customer if they order for a specified volume at a period of time. (meaning there is a maximum ordered quantity given)
For example , 1% discount for a total quantity ordered of 1000pcs for 3 months. Even if they ordered 2000pcs , they will still be given a rebate, but only upto the 1000pcs discount max value.
Where in the Rebate Agreement can I set the 1000pcs max?
I checked through Scales , there is 'from' and 'to'. If I use the scale "to", if I deliver more than 1000pcs for the 3mos, ,when I do final settlement, I can't see the rebate value. But an accrual is created for the quantity (more than 1000pcs).
I can't find " condition update value" for the rebate condition type.

Dear Rajesh
Thank you for this. Would you know any other functionality which I can use aside from rebate then? (specifiy a discount to be given to customers where I can put a max allowed quantity for a specified duration/time)
if not maximum quantity, can I set a limit of the amount instead? (or is it the same?) .. such that total invoice value upto 10,000usd only for 3mos. Even if the total value is 15,000, the discount to be given is only for the 10,000.
cheers!

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