Rebate agreement price calcualtion

Hi all,
In our organization we want to implement rebate agreements with a scenario that is described in the example below:
A material with Gross Price (PBXX) of 10 ILS.
Material rebate % (A002) is 10%
Non-Deductible Tax (NAVS) is 18%.
We would expect the actual price of material in case of rebate to be 10.62 ILS (10*0.9*1.18) as in the following example (presented below with condition type RA00).
But when using the actual 'A002' condition type, we receive the following calculation that brings the actual price to 10.80 ILS (10*0.9+10*0.18)
How can we 'force' the "RA00" to behave like condition type "A002"?
Thanks!
Limor

I'm rephrasing my last question in order to emphasize the problem.
The desired situation is as follows:
A material with Gross Price (PBXX) of 10,000 ILS.
Material rebate % (A002) is 10%
Net price: 9,000
Non-Deductible Tax (NAVS) is 1,620 ILS (18%X 9,000)
Actual expected price: 10,620 ILS (9,000 + 1,620).
Now... no matter how I change the calculation schema in PO, I always get:
Gross Price (PBXX) of 10,000 ILS.
Material rebate % (A002) is 10%
Net price: 9,000
Non-Deductible Tax (NAVS) is 1,800 ILS (18%X 10,000)
Actual price: 10,800 ILS (9,000 + 1,800).
That means that the system always calculates the NAVS based on the Gross price, and does not take under consideration the rebate %.
While looking on the schema I've noticed that the A001 and A002 condition types don't allow inserting a value in the field To reference step (for percentages) (I've marked it with a red frame).
Is it possible that this is the reason why the rebate condition behaves differently and is not being considered on the price calculation?
Or in other words: how can I have the A001-2 conditions to be considered in the NAVS calculation?
Thanks.

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My customer has issue in Rebate agreements and final settlements.
ISSUE:
Rebate agreement currency is EUR
Billing document currency is EUR
Company code currency is SEK
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the accrual amount in drill down 3152.05 EUR
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HiI
f you set this selection field then the settings in the ERD Setting column for this currency type are no longer relevant. The system calculates and posts exchange rate differences between order-related goods receipts and invoices not just for materials with standard price, but also for:
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Hi Omer,
Proposal:
Setup your rebate condition as amount = 0 and accruals = $
The system will do the accounting movements for the accruals as usual
When doing the final settlement in SD, nothing will be credited to the customer as the rebate condition is zero BUT the accruals will be reversed (as usual when doing the final settlement).
That should work because it is standard SAP logic.
On the other hand, it is a pity not to be able to credit the customer if you already have the rebate agreement created in the system.
Are you 100% positive about this legal issue in your business environment?
I did a few rebate projects in FMCG and it is standard practice to send credit memo to the rebate recipient: The Customer (Payer in SAP).
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Edited by: Evert Nooijen on Apr 4, 2010 12:01 PM
Edited by: Evert Nooijen on Apr 4, 2010 12:03 PM

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