Rebate....G/L accounts

Hii frnds I have wokring on rebate and would like to know which accounts will get affected i nthis process........need to know which Gl accounts are to be created and assigned
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Regards
maddy

Hi
It is possible to have one more than one GL account for posting rebates.
You just need to activate the valuation modification.
Thanks
Ashok

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Dear Experts
I am facing an error in rebate credit memo creation.
Error ' Document 123456 saved (no accounting document generated)
Message no. VF050
This error is appearing only for rebate credit memo creation. I have released billing block in VA02 for credit memo request. Again appearing the same error
G/L's assigned for Rebate account keys & accruals
Against ERB- 506380
ERU- 506381 563081 (accrual)
Normal Credit memos are working fine.
Please advise
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Deepu Pillai

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Rebate Acccural Accounts

Dear SAP SD Experts ,
1. In case of Rebate Accurals we have the Account determination as follows.
for Material Rebate:      Account key ERB and Accural Key ERU.
In the Account determination What I find is G/L Accounts Have been hit with ERU accural keys
But what Happened to ERB ---there is no posting in G/l Accounts.
Please explain this ?
2.
and Next Question is in VKOA What is the Purpose of the Provisional accounts G/L
What I can see is the G/L Account is debited and Provitional Account Creditted.?
Regards,
A S
Edited by: SAP Consultant on Nov 29, 2008 2:54 PM

Dear SAINATH,
What I can see i will Just Elaborate:
BO02 (Rebate material)      Assignment Account Key (ERB)                        Accural (ERU).
In the T-code: VKOA:
Chart of Acc+ Condi Type+ Custo Acc Grp+ Mat Ac Grp)
+ ERB   = 45022800
2nd
Chart of Acc+ Condi Type+ Custo Acc Grp+ Mat Ac Grp)
+ ERU     =       14780010 (G/L )     &    14780040 (Prov. G/L)
In VF02 Condition Type BO02 double click
Shows that ERB = 14780010 (G/L )
&               ERU = 14780040 (Prov. G/L)
Accounting document : (G/L) Debit and (Prov. G/L) Credit entry
Now My Qyestion is ERB is assigned to different G/L Accounts Why there is no entry in the Accounting document for G/L 45022800.
Please explain
regards,
A S

Rebate account accurals

hi,
i was working on Rebate agreement
i am also able to see mine rebate agreement in background i.e(VF02)
but when i am saving mine invoice i am getting error
ERROR
Count Invoice (F2) 0090036159 20.05.2008 Acct determin error
so i am not able to see mine accurals in VBO2
when i am gng to VBO
and there is one mess and enter mine agreement no.
it is showing called
The sales volume for agreement 101 is not current
can u plz forwad me the accont keys required for rebate
use in VKOA and any more plz
its urgent
Regards
Vinit

Dear SAINATH,
What I can see i will Just Elaborate:
BO02 (Rebate material)      Assignment Account Key (ERB)                        Accural (ERU).
In the T-code: VKOA:
Chart of Acc+ Condi Type+ Custo Acc Grp+ Mat Ac Grp)
+ ERB   = 45022800
2nd
Chart of Acc+ Condi Type+ Custo Acc Grp+ Mat Ac Grp)
+ ERU     =       14780010 (G/L )     &    14780040 (Prov. G/L)
In VF02 Condition Type BO02 double click
Shows that ERB = 14780010 (G/L )
&               ERU = 14780040 (Prov. G/L)
Accounting document : (G/L) Debit and (Prov. G/L) Credit entry
Now My Qyestion is ERB is assigned to different G/L Accounts Why there is no entry in the Accounting document for G/L 45022800.
Please explain
regards,
A S

Rebate settlement not posting

Hi,
I encounter the following problem with B3 and B1 billing types: Error in account determination message VF051 for Partial settlement and Final settlement
A bit more detail:
Create a rebate agreement with relevant conditions.
Complete Customer Order Cycle Process with Billing.
Accrual posted successfully.
However when you display the open items in this Provision GL account, items are shown when you select Normal items. When Noted items is selected, nothing is displayed.
I have create a rebate settlement credit memo request limited to amount in accrual account. It saved successfully, remove the billing block and created the Credit Memo that don't want to release to accounting.
The same rebate conditions are displayed in document in 2 lines: one with a positive and one with a negative. The positive in the Net Value amount. When you check account determination analysis on the credit memo then it determines the accrual account and the rebate sales deduction account.
It is possible that the accrual posted as a normal item could prevent the system from reversing the accrual in the provision account and we should therefore change it to post as a noted item.

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Rebate Aggrements - Settling two rebates aggrement

Dear Sap Gurus !
Following is my problem :
1. Created a rebate aggrrement ,10 with conditions records based on a particular customer X and mat Y .
2. Created a sale cycle and the above rebate aggrement is accounted . All is fine till here . I see that accurals are coming fine but i have not yet settled this aggrement and is still open .
3. I create one more rebate aggrement , 20 with same condition records and in same validity period as of previous aggrement 10 . In all the new sales cycle , i will see both aggrment types coming and in accurals of both the aggrement type i would see same amount getting added .
This is fine because the validity period is same and system will pick .
Now, if i decide to do "final settlement" of agrmnt 10 , it shows me the outstanding accurals from the 20 also . And if i decide to do final settlement of aggrmnt 20 , it shows me the outstanding accurals from the 10 .
So If i create a credit memo for 20 and do final settlement , i should not see same amount in 10 again , but when i go in 10 and do final settlement , system is still showing amnt for whihc i have already done settlemnt thru 10 . So a credit note of same amount is getting issued twice when settling the rebates aggrement types and that is creating problem .
Is there any way to rectify this w/o going for any major enhancements ?
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GET FULL POINTS !!

Hi Manni
If i am not wrong you have 2 conditions record maintained for that rebate agreement and in that rebate agreement , you have 10orders with 1st key combination and for the 2nd key combination you have 20orders so as you want to settle both then runt the program VB)D and give the key combination and the rebate agreement , give the customer number and then run the report . you will get the output for both
Regards
Srinath

Account/Accrual keys

Hi,
In the pricing configurtaion, for rebates both the account key and accrual key columns are filled in with the relevant keys.
1 ) In VKOA, there are two GL account columns, so that means the first GL column relates to account key and the 2nd GL column relates to accrual key.
when the accounting doc is made, does the debit goes to the first GL account and th credit goes to 2nd GL account for the rebates conditions ?
regards

Hi Micheal,
Thanks for the reply. I have one question.
I think accruals are credited. So when accrual is done, then the credit goes to GL account mentioned against the accrual key.
My question is where is the debit entry going? Iam asking this since financial accounting follows double entry system. that is for every debit, there is a credit and vice versa.
so if for rebates the accural amount goes to a particular GL account through VKOA, where is the opposite entrry going to and in which GL account and where it is configured.
regards

Credit Note -Rebate agreements

Hi all ,
I have got a querry from my Client saying the below ,i have analysed but could not figure it out .need your help .
A correction credit was created for Agreement XYZ.
When the Agreement was settled on 5/8 (date) two credit memos created - One for 0 value and another for x value which was the correct amount to be credited.
In the batch run that night, invoices were created for both credit memos, one for A and oner for B (Zero value) . An accounting document can't be created for B which means it doesn't show up in the rebate reciever`s account, which is good, but they want to know why the correction credit memo created at all (for Zero value ).
In brief it is creating two credit note one for Zero and one for correct value , why it is happening ....
Regards ,
Bala

Hi Bala,
What I mean is that,
1. When you do manual accrual(by selecting the Accrue button in the rebate maintenance VBO2), system will only create a zero valued B4 credit memo request (Reb.Req.f.Man.Accrls). This will update the accrual account based on the accrual amount entered at the time of manual accrual. If positive amount is entered, it will reverse accrual. If negative amount is entered, it will build accruals.
2. When you do the settlement (by selecting the execute settlement button in rebate maintenance VBO2), system will create a valued B1 credit memo request (Reb.Credit Memo Req.). This credit memo is used to grant payment to the rebate recipient. It will also reverse the accruals since you are doing the final settlement.
You may also refer to the help on the rebate processing for manual accruals and final settlement in the link below.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_470/helpdata/en/dd/561270545a11d1a7020000e829fd11/frameset.htm
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Scneria related to bill back(rebates)

hi experts
hope all are doing well,i have one issue related to rebate but it
is totally z transection.but i now that this is scnerio related to
bill back process
1)so anybady can explain me in detail the bill back scnerio in rebate.
what is accounting entries take place in bill back.
2)what happend when we run "rebate adjustment"(vbfo) i mean
what it will affected in respect of SD and FI perspective..
Regds
Nisha A

2. VBOF , we have to do this transaction to update billing doc, when new rebate proc activated.
ex. pricing will be rerun, if any pricing condition type are to be updated in billing doc it will take care by this transaction

Accountign doc for Export Excise Invoices

Dear Friends,
Please clarify:
1.Whether Accounting doc is required for Export Excise Invoices......especially in the case of Exports under Rebate..........as I have maintained the Excise condition types as Statistical in my Pricing procedure.
2. In case of Exports under Rebate how does the system updates the Cenvat Credit Rec A/c and Rebate Claim Rec A/c after creating the ARE1
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Friends, can someone throw some light on this......
Edited by: ivy ivy on Aug 11, 2008 11:58 AM

Accounting document is required for every invoice. Its not just taxes which are passed on to accounting but there are oterh conditions which needs to be recorded as well and posted as well. What abot prices, discounts, freights, insurance, commissions. How are you going to track them in FI if you donlt post it and if you don;t have an accounting doc then how else are you going to retrieve the data later. Commissions, rebates are accrual accounting which need posting.
So this is a necessity. Now coming to the question why calculate taxes.
well if you don;t calculate tax how else are you going to make the sales tax returns . its retrieved based on a tax code.
Again how are you going to maintian your bond account and fil the excise duty values in your are-1 document.
Hence calculating tax is necessary and so also is the accounting doc.
regds
Jude

Accruals in condition type

Hi,
I have a condition type in a PO where the "accruals" tick box is ticked. I am not able to settle this through MIRO.
Can you please explain me the business scenario to pay this condition type.
Regards,
Vijay

I am not sure where you are talking on Accural on P.O ,
Basically :
Account key - accruals / provisions
Key which identifies various types of G/L accounts for accruals or provisions.
Use
With the aid of the account key, the system can post amounts to certain types of accruals accounts. For example, rebate accruals which are calculated from pricing conditions can be posted to the corresponding account for rebate accruals.
Account key for Accrual is maintained in Pricing / tax procedure ( Transaction code M/08 or OBQ3) for relevant Condition type.
You have to define the Transaction /Event Key
SPRO > Materials Management > Purchasing > Conditions > Define Price Determination Process > Define Transactions / Event Keys .

MDM - Beginner question(s)

We (Post Danmark) are just starting out with SAP and we are fairly certain that we are going to need some sort of Master Data Management approach (and perhaps tool).
We have a number of persons in the business that are responsible for the definition of one or more types of Master Data.
I would very much like to know more about what Master Data are needed in which modules/applications (in SAP).
What I'm are looking for is a list (per module/application) of what Master Data is required, when the module/application is installed without modifications.
Ie.
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Hi Christian,
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If this looks good, let me know and we'll try and work out how to send you the full listing via email, rather than fill this forum with data.
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Billing -A/c doc

HI,
when we save the billing - accounting document gets generated ,
but along with this how
Controlling Document
Profitab. Analysis
documents are created.
Is ther any specific setting for this.

Hi,
U should activate COPA. if u want to see any sales order costing and profitability analysis. then u have to activate COPA
When you create a billing document, the system automatically creates all relevant accounting documents for:
General Ledger
Profit center
Profitability Analysis
Cost Accounting
Accounting
Integration with Controlling consists of assigning costs and revenues to the appropriate sub-ledgers
Integration with Financial Accounting consists of forwarding billing data in invoices, credit and debit memos to Financial Accounting. The system
posts offsetting entries to the appropriate accounts (with the help of "account assignment")
and makes sure that FI can recognize all billing documents belonging to one business transaction (for example, a credit memo to an invoice)
Costs and revenue can be posted to the following accounts:
Customer accounts receivable
General ledger (for example, a cash clearing account)
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Accruals (for rebate agreements)
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Offline team, do they actually exist???????

Hi
Does anyone know how I can get in contact with the offline team?
We had an issue with our phone line and broadband which was caused by an engineer connecting up the wires incorrectly, this meant we had crossed lines and no broadband access for nearly a week and half.
We contacted BT on the first day the fault occurred and were told that the fault would be fixed the next day. It wasn't so we contacted BT again and were then told that it wouldn't be repaired until the Friday of this week. Obviously we weren't very happy about it but we left it at that. By Friday it still wasn't fixed so we rang again only to be told that it would be Saturday now before it would be repaired. Again Saturday came and it still wasn't repaired so we again rang BT who said by midnight on the Monday night it would be fixed. By Tuesday morning it still wasn't fixed so we called again but they couldn't give me any idea when the problem would be resolved. I was told someone would call me back within 4 hours but they never did, surprise surprise. We then phoned later that night and was told that an engineer would come on Wednesday but they couldn't give us any idea of what time. As I was at work all day, my husband had to cancel his appointments as he is self employed and had to wait in. The engineer did arrive and the issue was resolved on the Wednesday.
I then rang earlier this week to sort out the rebate on the account, they told me that the maximum I would be able to get would be £10 even though we had been without a phone or internet for 9 days!!! I told them this wasn't acceptable and I asked to speak to a manager. I was told the manager was busy and they would call me back within 5 - 10 mins, after 30 minutes I had not received a phone call so I called back myself. I got told this time that I would be refunded £0.90 for every day we were offline!!! I again told them this wasn't acceptable and asked to speak to a manager again. However this time I ended up with the billing department which to my relief was a UK call centre. I eventually got the rebate on to my account sorted and the guy I spoke to informed me that a complaint had been raised with the offline team on my behalf due to the problems that we had encountered. He then told me that the offline team would contact me within 48 hours which should have been Thursday of this week. By yesterday I hadn't received a phone call so I called BT yet again, I asked to be put through to the offline team but I was told that they couldn't do this. I was also told that nothing had been raised with the offline team, as she couldn't put me though to anyone she emailed my details to her manager who is apparently going to look in to this contact me.
As you can imagine I am now getting extremely frustrated with this. I sent an email through the BT website apparently to the complaints department yesterday and received a phone call earlier today which again was a waste of time. She told me that she could organise a rebate but this has already been sorted but she can't give me a contact no. for the offline team or put me through to them.
I am now at a loss of who to contact, I need to reclaim the money that my husband lost for not being able to work and the inconvenience that has been caused by an engineer and I want some action taking against the incompetent people that work in the BT call centres.
If anyone has any ideas or a no. for the offline team please let me know.
Thanks
Karen :-((

Hi
I am sorry to see you are having problems
I suggest you contact the forum mods they should be able to get this problem sorted for you this is a link to them http://bt.custhelp.com/app/contact_email/c/4951
They normally reply by email or phone directly to you within 3 working days they will take personal ownership of your problem until resolved and will keep you informed of progress
They are a UK based BT specialist team who have a good record at getting problems solved
This is a customer to customer self help forum the only BT presence here are the forum moderators
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Error in Releasing to Accounting for Rebate Credit Memo

Hi All,
I have a requirement to post from a credit memo rebate settlement an A/P posting document rather than
an A/R posting document (payment made against vendor rather than customer).
I am using the standard SAP user exit EXIT_SAPLV60B_008 to convert A/R document to A/P document.
In the internal table XACCIT, the following fields are changed in order to achieve the results above:
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Branch Details (FILKD) - if filled, clear out
The rebate credit memo have been generated but not able to release to accounting. When i try to release
to Accounting via VF02, the following error is generated:
'No Account is Specified for item 0000000001'.
All substitution seems to be complete. Could you let me know the possible cause of this so that I can further investigate on this issue.

No Account is Specified for item 0000000001
Normally system will throw this type of error if the corresponding billing document / credit memo does not have the Account Assignment Group of that customer. To check that go to VF02, key in the credit memo reference and execute. There click from top menu bar "Goto => Header => Header". There you can see a field "Account Assignment Group". Check whether it is blank. If so, press F and save.
It could also be due to improper of G/L Account assignment in VKOA
thanks
G. Lakshmipathi

Re: Error in rebate condition G/L account assignment at the time of invoice

Hi,Guru's
am new this forum,
while creating Invoice am getting this error as " Error in A/c Determination ",and by checking the A/c det.Analysis it'ssaying that
" 10 125 Accruals condition: The second G/L account is missing "
I entered the G/L account numbers for both ERB & ERU ,eventhough Iam getting this error.
Can any one solve my problem.
CRG

Ensure that in VKOA the said G/L Accounts are maintained. This being a rebate process, in VKOA, in the last column also, you should assign a provisional G/L Account which seems to be missing.
thanks
G. Lakshmipathi

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