Route IDOC by Sending SNDPRN or SNDPOR without BPM

I am running PI7.0 SP10. ECC6.0 to 4.7.
Unfortunately I do not have the new landscape I am waiting for different testing, although the testers are almost ready..
I am left with two sending systems, one XI system and two receiving systems.
I would like to be able to re-route messages to the correct target system based upon either the contents of SNDPRN or SNDPOR, preferably without using BPM.
Is this possible?

> Barry,
>
> Did u tried giving XPATH condition in Receiver
> Determination?
>
> Best regards,
> raj.
Thanks Raj
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/people/jin.shin/blog/2006/02/07/multi-mapping-without-bpm--yes-it146s-possible
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