Saleorder vs PIR (Demand)

Hi Gurus,
I am using Strategy 40
Ex:PIR(Demand) i have 50 now am rerciving Sale order 40,once entry of sale order PIR gets consumed right.So now remaing PIR will be 10,here i need to check for which sale order how much demand (PIR) has consumed.(In which T-Code)
Awaiting for your replies
Cheers,
Kumar.S

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PIR (Demand) vs Stock

Hi,
I need to find out for an particular Demand(PIR) how much the stock has been consumed.In Which Transaction i can able to find it out.
Awaiting for your replies.
Cheers,
Kumar.S

Hi,
Thanks for your Speedy response,I know the process which you are mentioning now i need for specific saleorder how much demand has consumed.
Strategy 40
Ex:PIR(Demand) i have 50 now am rerciving Sale order 40,once entry of sale order PIR gets consumed right.So now remaing PIR will be 10,here i need to check for which sale order how much demand (PIR) has consumed.(In which T-Code)
Please revdret back with your replies.
Cheers,
Kumar.S

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Demand and receipts

hi
in SAP parlance we frequently come across two words Demands and Receipts
list of all demands as for as i know are are customer demand ,sales order demand,demand from MD61 (pir),demand created from planning book .would you please list out all demands relevant to SCM you have come across so far?.
receipts are planned orders emerging from IHP,(inhouse production ),PR (procurement proposals) this is as far as i know
would you please list out all demands and receipts under the umbrella of SAP that you have come across in your practical working business environment .cpz your answer will remove my confusion
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Rahul
Demand & Receipt Elements are MRP Elements in ECC and those map to ATP Categories in APO. To see the entire list of ATP Categories use configuration /SAPAPO/ATPC03. There you can see 4 types of Categories - Requirements (Demand), Receipts (Supply), Forecast (Demand) and Stock (Supply).
Any data in Order Live Cache (typically interfaced from ECC using CIF but could also be loaded from external systems) must have an ATP Category identifying the specific element. It is useful to differentiate planned elements - planned orders, etc from firm elements - sales orders, deliveries, production orders, etc. Usually (but not always) planned elements are managed (created/ modified) by APO but firm elements are not changed by APO planning.
SNP Planning books display this data by assigning ATP Category Groups (defined in transaction /SAPAPO/SNPCG) to Key Figures during Planning Area definition. Check definition of SAP delivered Planning Area such as 9ASNP02 to see how key figures are mapped to ATP Category Groups.
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Mapping the PP scenario

Dear PP Gurus,
Please guide me to map the following scenario:
ABC is a company dealing with Manufacturing Of Refrigerators to their customer which includes Model 1 & Model 2.
Based on the historical data of sales to Model 1 Model 2, the ABC Production Planning team does the sales & Operations Planning (Forecasting) for next six months for Refrigerators (Which consists of Bill Of Material).
Also there are some key materials like Coils which is imported from United States. The Coils needs to be planned separately for example Master Production Scheduling as the cost of carrying the inventory is high for such materials.
Based on the Forecast data, the Materials are planned and the finished products are produced to be delivered to the Customers (Model 1 & Model 2).
The Costing for an order to be demonstrated which should outline the components cost & process Cost for the finished goods.
The Planned & actual production to be compared at the end of the day and the cost of same.
Regards
Raghu

Hi,
You can use discrete manufacturing scenario as per your requirement.
1. Based on the historical data of sales to Model 1 Model 2, the ABC Production Planning team does the sales & Operations Planning (Forecasting) for next six months for Refrigerators (Which consists of Bill Of Material)
You can use PIR demand planning (MD61) or SOP to plan for the Model 1 and Model 2. Based on the BOM for the two models, after the MRP run system will generate the demand for Components.
Also there are some key materials like Coils which is imported from United States. The Coils needs to be planned separately for example Master Production Scheduling as the cost of carrying the inventory is high for such materials
You don't need to plan them seperately, since it is only a purchased parts. You can have a lead time (Planned delivery time) in the material master for Coils, based on the demand for Model 1 & 2, and based on the leadtime, system will generat Purchase requistions and through them you can import it.
*Based on the Forecast data, the Materials are planned and the finished products are produced to be delivered to the Customers (Model 1 & Model 2).
The Costing for an order to be demonstrated which should outline the components cost & process Cost for the finished goods.
The Planned & actual production to be compared at the end of the day and the cost of same*
You will have BOM with components and Routing with processing time and workcenters and you can run costing run for the Model 1 and Model 2 based on the Bom and routing the cost will be assigned the Model 1 &2.
The cost will be showm as planned cost once you create a Production order for the Models basd on the system generate planned order based on the demand.
You can confirm the actual component consumed and actualtime taken to manufacture the production order in the confirmation screens from which teh system will post the actual values. You can do variance and order settlement.
Overview:
Demand (Forecast) - MD61
MRP run - MD02
System will generate PR to purchase components and planned order (to manufacture Model 1 & 2)
MD04 - Material Stock / REquriements view
CO41- Planned order to Production order
CO05 - Order Release
CO15/ CO11N / CO15 -Orde rConfirmation
KO88- Order settlement
Pl check and revert back if you need more input.
Thanks,
JK

Can MRP only create planned orders for ROH, not for FERT?

HI all,
Is there any way to only generate planned orders for raw materials after MRP, forbid creating planned orders for FERT?
We want create planned orders for FERTs manually.
Thanks,
Harvey

Harvey,
Yes, that was also my understanding of your scenario. Did you try X0 for Fert? Run MRP against the entire plant, and MRP will not create any new planned orders for the X0 parts. It will explode the BOM and create dependent requirements in the components. In addition, you can create FERT planned orders manually, or using an external planning system, and these manually created orders will also create dependent demand on your components.
If you are also using Sales orders to consume your PIR, you will also have to look at requirements determination for Sales orders. This is configured based on MRP type. If you change existing MRP types, you may have to add SD config so as to continue to pass requirements to MRP. Your SD resource should be able to help you through this, or I can give you basic instructions if you decide that the PIR/demand/planned order/dependent requirements works to your satisfaction.
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Running MRP for finised product material

i have a material BOM (finished product material and it consist of some raw material) those materials have MRP
when i run MRP for this BOM i want to generate PR for the raw materials and a production order for the finised product material
Please i want all the steps for these senario

Nehad,
You need to create PIR(Demand) for the finshed product for the MRP to trigger Planned order for the Finished product and Dependent requirments/PR for the Raw materials.
1. Use transaction MD61 to enter demand for the finished product with respect to the plant and requirement type "LSF" if it was strategy "10" or "BSF" for strategy "11". You can check the planning strategy used for the finished product using transaction "MM03" in the MRP3 view... if no strategy is assigned you can still use "LSF" requirement type.
2. Now run MRP using "MD02", you should get planned order for the finished materail and PR for raw material. Please note the MRP type for both the materails should be "PD" you can check this in "MM03" - MRP1 view of the materails.
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Prasobh

Planning startegy 30

Hi all ,
I am using the planning strategy 30, Here i created many sales order wioth different delivery date but the system creates only one planned order for all these sales order , I want one planned order for one sales order ,
I have used the availability check 01, and individual collective requirements 1,
Please give me solution.
Best Regards,
Kumar

Hi Kumar,
With strategy 30 you can work with PIRs (demand without reference to customers) as well as with sales orders (customer requirements). Here sales orders will not consume your PIRS and you can perform planning annd production in parallel to both PIRs and Sales orders.Example retail industry.
I thinkyour doubt is clear that you can use DM in strategy 30. Production by lot means you can carry out the production for independnet lot sizes for both PIRs and individual sales orders.
Any question then please write with rewarding the suitable points.
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Order reservations

hi,
this is a urgent requirement plz give possible reply
An assembly in plant 0001 contains two components. Component 2 in plant 0001 has the special procurement key Withdrawal from alternative plant with the issuing plant 0002. This defines that this component is to be withdrawn from plant 0002. Therefore, when producing the assembly in plant 0001, component 2 is withdrawn from the plant 0002 but the other components are withdrawn from plant 0001.
   i am getting dependend requirements in isuuing plant 0001and 0002 by mrp run
   but when iam raising production order manually order reservations are not getting generated in plant002 .
why this happens ,whats the diiference between PIR ,dependent requirements and order reservations.
why only PIR dependent requirements are getting transferd and why order reservations are not getting transfered in plant 0002
plz suggest possible anwser
                                                                 sasikanth

Hi sasiaknth,
Order reservation will be created in issuing plant for components if u create production order manually.
Plese check the "Plant"assigned in for the 2component in the "Component Overview" of the Prodution order.if it is 0002, order reservation will be created in at 0002 .
When u Run MRP Based "PIR" (Demand) for Header Material, Planned order will be created with net requirement qty for Header Material, and "Dependent requirements "will be created for BOM components.
If u convert the planned order to prod order , Dep requiremenst of component will be converted to "order reservation"
when convert planned order to prod order. issuing plant (0002) will be copied from planned order results in MRP.
Please try and comeback
Regards
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Basic question on requirements

Dear SAP Guru's
Can anyone explain the difference between Planned Independent Requirement (PIR), dependent requirement & Customer Requirement with example.
Thanks in advance
Regards
Kalyan

Hi,
In Simple Terms:
Planned Independent Requirement (PIR): Demand placed manually in the system to trigger the procurement flow.
eg: Mtl A has a long lead time & you wish to start the procurement cycle in advance or in cases where you want to have an advance planning of certain materials for which a demand is shortly expected. In such cases you place a PIR in the system via MD61.
Dependent requirement: Demand which is created as a result of a demand for the top parent
Eg: If the BOM of Mtl - A comprises 2 children say B & C, then if a demand is placed for A, system will generate a dependent requirement for B & C which will be tied to the demand coming from A.
Customer Requirement: Demand which is placed in the system based on the sales order
Eg: Your customer places an order with you for Material - A & you create a sales order for the same in VA01, then system will consider this as a customer requirement.
Hope the above clarifies, else revert.
Regards,
Vivek

Planning Strategy that drive demand on both PIR and Sales Order

Hi,
Do anyone know is there any planning strategy that i could use to drive demand on both PIR and SO? PS 40 won't suitable as it will compare between PIR and SO and only drive demand on which is higher in term of quantity loaded in. I am looking on a planning strategy which will sum up both PIR and SO as total demand.
Thank you.

Hi,
Try Planning Strategy Production By Lot Size (30) it will create planned order by mrp run from PIR and SO, no consumption will do for this planning strategy. This planning strategy commonly used where you want to keep existing sales order in MD04 (usually contract sales type, not a direct sales) as a requirement to generate planned order.
Here some brief explanation http://help.sap.com/saphelp_40b/helpdata/en/cb/7f93d943b711d189410000e829fbbd/content.htm
Regards,
Arman

Problem with gross requirement planning pir is not getting reduced

Dear Gurus
I am trying to use strategy 11 for a particular finished product.(having bom and routing)
In the material master I have set mrp type pd lot size ex .strategy group 11, mixed mrp 2,item category group norm, availabilty checking group 02 .
Then I made manually pir for that material in md61 with BSF requirement type .
Then ran the mrp for that material in md02.
Planned orders came .(In md04 screen that gross requirement line text also came as usual )Converted them to prodn order and then did the gr in mb31 with 101 mvt type. After doing the gr the pir should get reduced in md04 screen which is not happening . Where I am going wrong
Regards
Sandip Sarkar

Dear Sandip Sarkar,
                                  It usually happens run MRP and ckeck.
Strategy 11 in summary :-
1. Sales Order creation - no impact.
2. Goods Receipt - minus the quantity for the oldest planned independent in demand management.
   For e.g. if PIR is 100 and delivery 90, PIR becomes 10 (withdrawal 90).
3. Delivery - no impact as delivery is issue from sales order.
This strategy is particularly useful if you need to produce, regardless of whether you have stock or not. For instance, steel or cement producers might want to use this strategy because they cannot shut down production; a blast furnace or a cement factory must continue to produce, even if this means having to produce to stock.
You need to maintain the following master data for the finished product:
Maintain strategy group 11 on the MRP screen.
Set the Mixed MRP indicator to 2 on the MRP screen.
Maintain the item category group (for example, NORM) on the Sales Organization screen.
Maintain the Availability check field so that you perform an availability check without the replenishment lead time (checking group 02 in the standard system).
Strategy                                                        10
Stock is taken into account                           Yes
reduction of planned independent
requirements takes place during u2026   u2026 goods issue for                                                                                delivery                                  order (discrete production),
11
Stock is taken into account                          No
Reduction of planned independent
requirements takes place during u2026            ... goods receipt for a production
                                                                        order (discrete production),
for a planned order (repetitive
                                                                         manufacturing), or for a purchase
                                                                         order (trading goods).
Edited by: Vachanala Rajasekhar on May 7, 2010 11:55 AM

Regarding production order closing and demand closing

Hi Gurus,
I am new to pp module..
I have the requirement on production order closing and demand order closing.
The requirement needs plant,reuirement plan no ,basic finish date and percentage in selection screen.
In the output display plant,requirement plan no,PIR No,order,order finish dat ,***.order qty,***.delivered qty,qty difference,percentage%,order status as in alv grid display.
And in the output it has 2 buttons named technically complete and demend close .whener user click on first button system should take all the orders which r selected to the program with the same reuirement plan as for the selected order and then technically close all the orders with the same reuirement plan number.
when user clicks on demand close button,system should take the respetcive requirement plan number,order finish date and material and it has to take the pir no which match the above and deactivate the pir and save.
I need the help about this.
Thankx in advance.

Dear Chandu,
First settle the production order using the T Code CO88,and then close the production order.
Prerequisites
Prerequisites for setting the CLSD status are:
The order must have the status Released (REL) or Technically completed (TECO)
The order balance must be 0
There can be no open purchase requisitions, purchase orders or commitments
There can be no future change records from confirmation processes
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Can we use MRP to plan for FERT in-house produced with PIR's & has Min/Max

Hi SAP Guru's
I have a very critical issue from the client who wants to use MIN/ MAX stock values for planning its finished products (in-house produced)
here is the details of the scenario
Client recieves 2 Excel files every week from customer
1st file contains the Weekly Demand Forecast of FERT material for next 1 year and they upload it in MD61 as PIR's BUT this value is also Inclusive of Safety stock value (ex: if weekly demand entered in MD61 as PIR is 50 and if safety stock value is 10, then actual demand is only 40)
2nd file send contains only safety stock values (for ex in this case let it = 10) to be maintained for the FERT materials
the client wants MRP to plan and trigger based on this PIR's in MD61 and Safety stock level fand plan for FERT, HALB and also ROH materials as defined in the BOM also taking into consideration the current WIP levels (Work in progress for any existing production orders currently being processed) based on the production Lead times values maintained
so what the client wants is they want to maintain 2 stock values, that is one least stock value and other higher value which if stock falls below this point, will trigger production based on the lead time and considering any WIP levels also
(for ex in this case if PIR = 50 and safety stock is 10, MRP run result client wants is = 30 and NOT =40)
so here are my questions
1. is this scenario feasible? use safety stock and min/max level for in-house produced finished which has demand PIRs in MD61 at the same time?
2. Also due to SOX complaince regulations, the client does not want to change the forecast values in MD61, so is it possible to make some settings so that forecast is corrected by WIThOUT including the safety stock value in it? ( for ex: in this case as = 40 only and NOt as 50)
3. which all settings should i maintain like for MRP type or lot size or stock qty levels or anyother customizations if any required so that when we run MRP, can it ignore the safety stock value and generate the client desired output?
thank u verymuch for your time & expert advice in advance

Hi Chakri,
This is not possible as per standard functionality. MRP always creates proposals for the shortage quantity of the safety stock. We have used the user exit in the plant level MRP run to exclude both plant and safety stock in the net requirements calculation.
You have to write logic to convert the safety stock into plant stock in the user exit so there will be no additional procurement proposals...you can create custom indicatar in materail master or linked any existing indicator like MRP group to the user exits so the MRP will checks this and will not create proposals for the selected parts.
If you have any questions then please inform.
Regards
TAJUDDIN

PIR's and batch management issue, can this be solved in APO ?

Hi All,
I've an issue. I honestly dont know where I can get a solution for that and thats why i will post it in mm and also pp forum.
Here is my issue.
All materials are batch managed. Each and every customer can get only certain batches and not all batches meet the requirement of a customer. Lets say I have 3 plants (plant 1, plant 2 and plant 3) and I have 3 customers ( cust1, cust2 and cust3). Lets say I get a demand for material and I create PIR's in plant 1. when I run MRP, it will generate planned orders. I convert that into purchase req and then into STO for plant 2. when plant 2 doesn't have the raw material to process into semi finished, I will create and sto from plant 2 to plant 3 to get the raw material. The reason we create sto to plant 2 initially is because it has to process something before it sends it to plant 1. so the link is from customer 1 --> plant 1 (finished goods) -- > plant 2 (semi finished) --> plant 3 (raw material).
Right from raw material it is specific to a customer. i.e. not all raw material batches from plant 3 will be accepted by customer 1.
so when the demand flows from customer 1 to plant 2, is there anywhere that I can keep track of for which customer that order is going and select raw materials based on the end customer ?
Can this be solved in APO ?

Hi sapcrs,
Your requirement is meet the solution of configuration of the following scenario.
customer 1 --> plant 1 (finished goods) -- > plant 2 (semi finished) --> plant 3 (raw material).
The conditions are
a) Raw material is batch managed
b) Keep track of order flow
Solution:-
1) Maintain raw material as batch managed in R/3. Suitably class and characterisitics to be developed to send the information to APO as that the RM is batch managed.
2) The Bom of semi-fnished item at plant-2 to be maintained with raw material. The source of supply has to be linked with plant-3. The RM will be externally procured from plant-3 for plant-2 which is batch specific. The Bom item will be send to APO as PPM which contain all bom and routing details.
3) Now once RM is ready at Plant-3, it will be sourced to plant-2 and at plant-2, semi-fnished item will be made with the production orders triggered from bom & routing data at plant-2
4) Now semi-finished item is ready at plant-2. Once it is ready, it has to be sent to plant-1 for mfg FG. This can be achieved by creating lane between plant-1 and plant-2.
5) Through lane, semifinished item reaches plant-1 which is made at plant-2 which contains RM made at plant-3 which is batch specific.
6) Using semifinished item, Finished product can be made at plant-1
7) Now your final requirement is to track all order flow changes. This can be achieved by mechanism in APO called pegging. Using pegging, the order flow can be tracked right from FG to RM.
Regards
R. Senthil Mareeswaran.

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