Setup Matrix and PDS

Hello All,
Can a setup matrix be used in combination with a PDS? I created a setup matrix and then went onto to create setup transitions and found that it is only configured to accept and PPM Plan and not PDS. Is this how it is or am I missing something completely?
Thx

Hi Vishy,
There is no rule which prevents usage of PDS for set up matrix.
You can very well use PDS data with set up matrix.
I hope there will be some configuration missing in your set up
to generate the required scenario.
Regards
R. Senthil Mareeswaran.

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Scheduling using Setup Matrix in PPDS

Hi Gurus,
We are using PPDS Steup Matrix for scheduling orders. We have scenario that from product A to B, there is a changeover. And after producing A or B for certain hours, there is a cleanout of certain hours.
Ex- Orders A for 5 hrs, B for 5 Hrs. Setup Matrix: A-B=1 hr and Max order ( A or B)=7 hrs after which cleanout should happen.
While scheduling , A(5hrs) (Setup) B( 5 hrs), this is acheived.
But result should be A(5hrs)(Setup)B(2hrs)(Cleanout)(B 3hrs)
Please give your valuable inputs. How to map extra Cleanout ??/ Should we ceate another setup matrix for cleanout?? Can system take multiple setup matrix???
thanks,
Priya

Hi Priya,
I think Your case can be achieved through campaigm planning.
Create a setup group 'PROD' in ECC.
Under setup group 'PROD' maintain setup keys as 'A' & 'B'
Assign these setup group and setup keys in master recipe.
Maintain the same setup group & keys in APO also and than CIF PPM.
Maintain the setup matrix and assign it to resources
Create a campaign profile for 'PROD' with no of chargers(Orders) as 7.
Now schedule orders by using optimization.
After that create campaigns by using campaign heuristics on the resources.Campaigns will be created for every 7 hours.
And then create cleanout order by using cleanout heuristics between campaigns.
By this you will achiece setup between products and change over after your max run length also achieved by cleanout order between campaigns.
Hope this is clear.
Regards
Sravan

PPDS: I have a setup matrix in SAP ECC 6.0, and want to transfer the same to APO using Core Interface.

PPDS: I have a setup matrix in SAP ECC 6.0, and want to transfer the same to APO using Core Interface. Has anyone done it before?

Hi Subhash,
Please open this link to see the details:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_scm70/helpdata/EN/89/bd3e42ce98033be10000000a1550b0/frameset.htm
You perform the data transfer in the following sequence:
Plant
Setup groups
Work centers
Routings
You check the setup groups in SAP APO.
You create the setup matrixes in SAP SCM.
Thanks, Marius

Same setup matrix for both fert and halb products

Hi,
at present we are using a setup matrix in apo for fert products, which is built on the setuptimes/groups of the halb products.
can i use the same setup matrix for the halb resources, if we want to use the sequence dependent setup planning for the halb products..our fert is the combination of halb and packing..
Thanks,

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Setup group and setup matrix

Hi Gurus,
Please brief me on the significance of setup group and setup matrix in APO and the effect of the same in planning?
Thanks,
Prasanth

Hi Prashanth,
Setup group tries to group products with similar characteristics.
Setup matrix provides the sequence in which the set up groups
can be executed.
Setup sceanrio is used in cases where in the time taken for switching
over from one product or group of products or category of products or
charactersitics of products which is called as predecessor to another
product or group of products or category of products or characteritiss of
products which is called as successor.
Say for eg, if you are having a scenario wherein
you need to manufacture products with low weight,
medium weight and heavy weight products.
You can define in the set up matrix that for switch
over from low weight to medium weight products for
manufacturing, the set up time involved in 2 hours and
the setup cost involved is Rs.100,
Similarly, for switching over from heavy weight products
to medium weight products, the set up time involved
is 3 hours and the set up cost involved is Rs.50.
Based on this information, system will frame a matrix
of information and use during planning.
Hope this information is clear to you.
Please confirm whether your issue is resolved.
Regards
R. Senthil Mareeswaran.

Extending the setup matrix use

Hi
we would like to extend the setup matrix use for the halb products now, currently we use the setup matrix for the fert products and it works fine. our fert = halb+packing, when extending the setup matrix use to the halb products what changes need to be done.
do we have to create a new setup matrix for the halbs or..can you pls share your ideas..

Hi, its advisable to create a new setup matrix for the halb product.
Ensure all the w.c on which setup sequencing is to be done are single mixed resource.
Assign the newly created setup matrix to single mixed resource
In the routing assign the setup group
Re transfer your PDS
create a test planned order in APO rrp3 and test if the setup group is arriving or not
You ca use the existing sequencing heuristics
Regards
Amlan

Using the PPDS setup matrix

Hello All -
I have 3 products A,B and C which are run on a single line during a particular week(day). We have certain set-up times when we move from one product to another. Here are the set-up times:
The sequence in which these products run on the line is decided by the plant scheduler during production planning. The production planners run heuristics and peform manual changes to the planned orders. They know which product runs in which shift but they do not necessarily adjust the planned orders to the hourly level.
What we would like the system to do is somehow incorporate the set-up times when we move from one product to another. We would like to see the the resource being consumed during the set-up time.
Also, we are not in a position to use the optimizer. So any solutions involving the Optimizer are out of scope. Just want to achieve this using heuristics.
To achieve this, I have created the following master data:
1) Created 3 setup groups SG1(A), SG2(B), SG3(C).
2) Created a setup matrix SM1 and set up the transitions for all the above combinations.
3) Assign the setup group to operations in a ppm
4) Assign the setup matrix to the resource
I then created 3 planned orders in production planning for the SAME day. All 3 have the same availability time 23:59:59 and based on run-rates we have different start times.
I have the following questions:
1) Which DS heuristic should I use to adjust the start times and the end times of these orders by considering the set-up times in the setup matrix?
The resource should basically be consumed during these setup times. I have looked at "Reschedule" function in the DS planning board but I get an error when I run this. Please see end of this post for the error. The message says I may not have free capacity, but I do. I am using backward scheduling and infinite.
2) Is there anyway the set-up times/matrix can be considered during production planning itself and not during detailed scheduling?
3) Can the option of "Schedule Sequence" work for my scenario.
Appreciate all your help.
Varun
Error during scheduling
Message no. /SAPAPO/OM043
Diagnosis
The system could not schedule an order, operation or activity.
This could have the following causes:
The resource does not have any free working time or capacity.
If you have set planning direction backwards in the strategy profile:
There is not enough working time or capacity available for scheduling between now and the scheduling date.
If you have set planning direction forwards in the strategy profile:
There is not enough working time or capacity available for scheduling between the scheduling date and the end of the planning area.
If you plan characteristics-dependently:
You have assigned characteristics to operations of the order that do not agree with characteristics of the resources on which the operations are to be processed.
The system cannot find any suitable characteristics on the resources and so it cannot schedule.
Procedure
Depending on which of the above reasons is the cause, change the following settings:
Change the working times and capacities of the resources.
Set the planning mode "infinite planning" in the strategy profile.
Activate the planning direction forwards or backwards and reverse in the strategy profile.
Change the characteristics that you have assigned to the resource.

Thank you all -
It was a mistake on my part. I was supposed to create a new "set up" activity before processing activity and make that relevant to set-up. I had the processing step checked for setp all this while. Now its working.
Thanks
Varun

Document for PPDS Optimizer Setup Matrix

Dear All,
Can I have a document or an implementation guide for PPDS Optimizer Setup Matrix?
I have already checked the SAP help and Certification Material about this topic. But there is no more information on this topic. It will be great if you provide a document where I can learn from the scratch.
Thanks a lot.
Regards,
Ram.

Hi Ram,
See wiki page:
General PPDS wiki page
http://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/SCM/APO-PPDS
Setup Matrix Generation in a Complex Manufacturing Evironment
http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/00a618c4-8aad-2b10-6ebb-f70cb4470195
Oficial doc
http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/00a618c4-8aad-2b10-6ebb-f70cb4470195?quicklink=index&overridelayout=true
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Setup Matrix

We are using repetative manufacturing, I want to know if I can group all materials by set-up time - hence reduce change overtimes from one group of products to the other.
Can I use Setup group category & setup group Key with planned orders.
Thanks in advance.

1.Set up grop key and categroy will not help in the REM manufacturing table.
2.This setup group and matrix will help in the capacity planning only.Where dispatching can be done by grouping at the setpu group key etc.
3.Even that would complicate the things becuase again we need to check what things system has pushed.
4. But int he capcity planning table -graphical it can belp you to highlight the order by the setup grou key .
5.So if you are looking for a funcitoanlity of grouping the materials in the setup group then that is not possible.
let us know if you have anydoubts..
reg
Dsk

Diff between PPM and PDS

Hello everyone,
Can anyone please let me know the differences between PPM and PDS as i'm not able to differentiate these two.
Thanks for your reply in advance.
Regards,
Jagadeesh.

Hi Jagadish,
Please find the difference between PDS and PPM.
PDS
1)Production Data Structure (PDS) in APO 3.1 & Run Time Object (RTO) in 4.0 and above versions
2)Master Data Object
3)Useful for scenarios where the component has got different validity periods
4)Used as Master data Basis for Planning in SAP-APO
5)Contains active Master data from iPPE (Integrated Product and Process Engineering) generated from a production version
6)PPDS PDS & SNP PDS can be used as master data for planning
7)Change Management, variant configuration & Phantom assemplies are supported in PDS
8)Sub-contracting in SNP is fully integrated with R/3 is supported in PDS
9)Direct transfer of SNP PDS from R/3 is possible
10)Rapid Planning Matrix can be generated
11)Not possible to maintain PDS directly in APO and can be used only in combination with R/3
12)The transfer of data changes is simpler
13)Not possible to create alternate SNP-PDS in std system for different mode combinations
14)PDS can be automatically generated from two sources ie R/3 and iPPE
PPM:-
1)Production Process Model
2)Master Data Object
3)Cannot be used for scenarios where the component has got different validity period
4)Used as Master data Basis for Planning in SAP-APO
5)Contains active Master data generated from the combination of routing (BoM & receipe) and production versions
6)PPDS PPM & SNP PPM's can be used as master data for planning
7)Not supported by PPM
8)Not supported by PPM
9)Not possible here. SNP PPMs will be generated via PPDS PPMs
10)Not possible
11)PPMs can be directly created in APO and can be modified without R/3 also.
12)Little Complex when compared to PDS
13)Alternate SNP-PPMs can be easily created
14)PPM can be generated automatically generated only from R/3
PDS is used in industries wherein there are multiple components or assemblies having diffeent production versions whose validity periods are different. PPM is being used typically in process industries, chemical industries. PPM is very simple in its usage and very flexible in operations in terms of modifications at APO level and can be referred to client depending on the business requirement.
Regards,
Nagesh.

What is exact difference between PPM and PDS

Hi,
can any one prove details of Difference between PPM and PDS
Thanks
suresh

Dear Suresh,
please find below the detailed comparative account of PDS Vs PPM. You can copy and put it in an excel sheet in different columns and then read which is easy to understand.
PDS:
1. Production Data Structure (PDS) in APO 3.1 & Run Time Object (RTO) in 4.0 and above versions
2. Master Data Object
3. Useful for scenarios where the compoenent has got different validity periods
4. Used as Master data Basis for Planning in SAP-APO
5. Contains active Master data from iPPE (Integrated Product and Process Engineering) generated from a production version
6. PPDS PDS & SNP PDS can be used as master data for planning
7. Change Management, variant configuration & Phantom assemplies are supported in PDS
8. Sub-contracting in SNP is fully integrated with R/3 is supported in PDS
9. Direct transfer of SNP PDS from R/3 is possible
10.Rapid Planning Matrix can be generated
11. Not possible to maintain PDS directly in APO and can be used only in combination with R/3
12. The transfer of data changes is simpler
13. Not possible to create alternate SNP-PDS in std system for different mode combinations
14. PDS can be automatically generated from two sources ie R/3 and iPPE
PPM:
1. Production Process Model
2. Master Data Object
3. Cannot be used for scenarios where the component has got different validity period
4. Used as Master data Basis for Planning in SAP-APO
5. Contains active Master data generated from the combination of routing (BoM & receipe) and production versions
6. PPDS PPM & SNP PPM's can be used as master data for planning
7. Not supported by PPM
8. Not supported by PPM
9. Not possible here. SNP PPMs will be generated via PPDS PPMs
10. Not possible
11. PPMs can be directly created in APO and can be modified without R/3 also.
12. Little Complex when compared to PDS
13. Alternate SNP-PPMs can be easily created
14. PPM can be generated automatically generated only from R/3

Where to assign setup matrix ?

Hello to all SAP Expert,
I have one problem regarding setup matrix assignment. I have created setup matrix, but where to assign this so that I can reduce my setup time required.
Thanks in Advance.
Regards,
Yogesh

Dear,
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Hi experts,
I have a couple of questions concerning the setup matrix volume.
1-a)What setup matrix combination volume is considered as acceptable?
b)Which is the break point from where performance issues take place?
3-What happens if the optimizer is optimizing orders and within those orders , there are features which are not included in the matrix.If this eventuality occurs, how the optimizer reacts?
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Hello all:
I apologize in advance for this long post.... I'm using Oracle Reports 10g (9.0.4.0.33). First -- the question:
I need to create a Matrix where the rows come from one database table
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Here's the background on the application, if that is helpful...
I have an application where I maintain database tables containing names/addresses along with information pertaining to them. As part of the processing, I need to produce reports that contain statistics based on values in the table. For example, each row has a field RTYPE that identifies the Record Type (1-Suppress, 2-Buyer, 3-Inquirer). Each row also has a last purchase date field. The statistics produced for this field would look like this:
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Buyer      100 150 250 30 25 15 8 9 22 83
Inquirer     1000 800 493 ...
Suppress ... ...
Totals ... ...
Each cell contains the count of the number of records that have the corresponding RTYPE and Last Purchase date. The dates across the top are determined by the most recent purchase date in the file. We count the last 12 months, month by month, and then anything older than that is grouped by
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The SQL query for this example looks like this:
SELECT CASE WHEN rtype = '2' THEN 'Buyers'
WHEN rtype = '3' THEN 'Inquirers'
WHEN rtype = '1' THEN 'Suppress'
END HLDESC,
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TRUNC(T.HOTLINE,'MONTH')) < 12
THEN TO_CHAR(T.HOTLINE,'YYYYMM')
ELSE TO_CHAR(T.HOTLINE,'YYYY') || '00'
END YYMM_8,
CASE WHEN MONTHS_BETWEEN(trunc(:MAXHLDATE,'MONTH'),
TRUNC(T.HOTLINE,'MONTH')) < 12
THEN TO_CHAR(T.HOTLINE,'MM/YY')
ELSE TO_CHAR(T.HOTLINE, 'YYYY')
END FmtDate_8,
COUNT(*) HLCOUNT
FROM &TABLENAME T
GROUP BY CASE WHEN rtype = '2' THEN 'Buyers'
WHEN rtype = '3' THEN 'Inquirers'
WHEN rtype = '1' THEN 'Suppress'
END,
CASE WHEN MONTHS_BETWEEN(trunc(:MAXHLDATE,'MONTH'),
TRUNC(T.HOTLINE,'MONTH')) < 12
THEN TO_CHAR(T.HOTLINE,'YYYYMM')
ELSE TO_CHAR(T.HOTLINE,'YYYY') || '00'
END,
CASE WHEN MONTHS_BETWEEN(trunc(:MAXHLDATE,'MONTH'),
TRUNC(T.HOTLINE,'MONTH')) < 12
THEN TO_CHAR(T.HOTLINE,'MM/YY')
ELSE TO_CHAR(T.HOTLINE, 'YYYY')
END
ORDER BY CASE WHEN MONTHS_BETWEEN(trunc(:MAXHLDATE,'MONTH'),
TRUNC(T.HOTLINE,'MONTH')) < 12
THEN TO_CHAR(T.HOTLINE,'YYYYMM')
ELSE TO_CHAR(T.HOTLINE,'YYYY') || '00'
END
There might be a better way to write this, but that isn't the issue at the moment.
I have many different tables, each with different fields. I need to produce counts on each of those fields. Some of those fields have a limited number of values where I need to count the occurrences and attach a description (like the RTYPE counts above). Others, like Last Purchase Amount, require counts within ranges (between 0 and 9.99, 10 and 19.99, etc.). Still others are "multiple choice"-style fields (such as products purchased), where we have multiple single-char flags that are not null when the corresponding products are purchased. In this case, we need to produce statistics that look like this:
          2001     2002     2003     11/03     12/03 01/04     02/04 03/04     04/04     05/04 ...
Product 1 .........
Product 2 .........
The worst of the bunch is a field where I need to count the occurrence of each value within it (hundreds of values) without entering descriptions, so I don't know how many rows will appear ahead of time. This is used for "source codes" that identify where the name/address came from. They look similar to the RTYPE above, but the leftmost column contains each value from the field rather than a description. There are so many possible values and they change so often that it isn't feasible to enter a description for each one.
Right now, I manually create an Oracle Report for each table when I design/load it. This is becoming difficult to manage, since I have over 150 of them now. Each of these reports can have any number of matrices to display (the largest right now has about 25).
The new table structure to generate these reports consists of two tables: A COUNTHDR table and a COUNTROW table. The COUNTHDR table represents a single Matrix within the report. It contains info such as a heading for the Matrix and whether column totals should be calculated or not. The COUNTROW table contains a description for each row and an SQL Fragment that contains an appropriate WHERE clause to match the description. In the event of a "source code" style count, COUNTHDR has the name of the field to count. COUNTROWs won't exist, so I'll be handling those counts differently. But, ignoring that issue for now, the report structure looks like this:
+ Q1 +
|
+ COUNTHDR +
|
+ COUNTROW +
| linked query
+ Q2 +
|
+ COUNTDTL +
Q2 is the query with lexical parameters for the table and "where clause" that identifies the actual statistic I need counted. I need fields from COUNTROW and COUNTDTL to form a Matrix.
Can this be done? How?
Of course, if anyone out there has a better idea on how to achieve my goal of not writing a report per table, please let me know!! :-)
TIA
Eric Raskin
PS. This structure does not exactly duplicate my original query, since multiple Matrix rows are created by the single SQL query given in the example. Instead, I'll end up executing an SQL query for each row, which is less than desirable. The design will need some tweaking...
PPS. I have tried handling this problem by pre-counting the target table and storing the results in a COUNTCOL table, containing the details of the matrix. This actually does work, but the performance is terrible. I have one "source code"-style count that generated over 20,000 detail cells, including all the "0" cells needed to fill out the matrix. If you don't generate the "0" cells, you get holes in the matrix presentation and/or error messages (which I can explain if you wish). I never did get Oracle Reports to print this one -- I gave up after an hour of runtime on a P4 3GHz machine connected via Gigabit Ethernet to the server. Hence the attempt to push the SQL Queries back into the Oracle Report itself.
Eric H. Raskin Voice: 914-765-0500
Professional Advertising Systems Inc. Fax: 914-765-0503
200 Business Park Dr Suite 107 [email protected]
Armonk, NY 10504

Hi there
here's example of my code
Html header of the page :
<script language="JavaScript" type="text/javascript">
function callMyPopup (formItem1,formItem2) {
var formVal1 = document.getElementById(formItem1).value;
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1.Test each parameter separate first - each work ?
2.Use code above, rerig it, create multiple parameter
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