Solution without BPM possible..?

Hi,
         I have a scenario where I have to create a sales order and once it is successfull then I have to create a Purchase order.
        Is the above scenario possible without using BPM..need help in resolving it..
       Thanks in advance.

Hi,
         The scenario in PI is that Iam using a multimapping for sales order creation and purchase order creation.
        Once the scenario is executed is it possible to create sales order and then purchase order in ECC.
        The sequence should be first Sales Order and then Purchase Order ..Is it possible without using BPM.,?
        If it possible in ECC end ..please let know how to achieve in ECC..

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