Source inspection cost

Hi, we send inspectors to the vender premises to conduct inspection before delivering the materials to our plant. inspectors spend some hours there for inspecting our product. we want to cost those hours spend for inspection. please advise how to map this.

Hi
Even if the sorce inspection is carried out at vendor premises ,we inspect the lot created at our factory only.
so what you can do is Create a task list of inspection.Use the work center in it.Assign the cost center to work center.
Also in KB21n you can book the cost ( of inspector spend for source inspection) against the cost center with activity type like "LBSH"
I hope this will add some value
Regards
Sujit

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Scenario with reference to source inspection and MIGO

Hi all,
My scenario as follows:
1.Source Inspection lot should get generated as per the lead time given in Q-Info while creating PO.
2.MIGO should not be allowed when source inspection lot is open(Means UD is not taken).
3.Inspection lot should be generated while doing GR in MIGO when source inspection lot is accepted.
These all three points are with reference to one raw material.
Kindly throw some light on the above said scenarios.
Thanks in advance
Sudhar

Dear Sudhar
1) For generating inspection lot automaticaly please use QA51. here you can shedule the program as in Qi07 and can be sheduled in a defined frequency
2) You may have to go for user exit if you need to stop GR when the source inspection is open. You may use MB_CF001. Please check the exact exits as there is no option in standard for the same
3) just check - in config maintain GR for Rejection - GR not allowed and in quality info record maintain No GR inspection for source inspection
Please let me know the issues
Regards
Gajesh

Stock posting in block stock after grn for source inspection

Hi All,
I have following scenario
I am doing source inspection at vendor site i have maintained control key 0005 in material master & necessary certificate with certificate check required at GRN & UD stage
i am creating a source inspection lot for a release po through t.code qi07 & then processing that lot before GRN
Now when i am doing GRN for same PO it is giving me the following message stage
<b>A category ZC01(user sp. category) inspected certificate is required</b>
Message no. QA312
Diagnosis
An inspected certificate must exist at the first goods receipt for a purchase order item.
Procedure
Check whether a suitable certificate exists for the purchase order and delivery, and create a certificate record with the status "Certificate checked and stored".
If there is no certificate or no suitable certificate, this does not comply with the requirements in the material master record. If there is no inspection lot for this goods movement, the system posts the quantity to blocked stock or does not post the goods receipt.
If you have created an inspection lot, the system marks the certificate check with the status "In lot". You must confirm the availability of an inspected certificate by the time you make the usage decision.
after doing the GRN stock is being posted to block stock
if i do not process the source inspection lot then the stock is posted to quality stock but this does fulfill the requirement of source inspection
plz suggest soultion
It's urgent
Regards
Ashutosh Shende
9860681314

Hello Ashutosh,
In the material master you have defined certificate type with the customizing setting indicator for 'Enhanced Certificate Processing' active.
If you set this indicator, extended certificate processing is active for
this certificate type. You can then manage the inbox for quality
certificates independent of the goods receipt.
The electronic inbox of certificates for the purchase order is only
possible if this indicator is set.
This means you have to create a certificate in QM (Transaction QC51),
before you can update your PO with cert. enclosed.
If you do not want the enhanced certificate processing you have change
the indicator into inactive.
Another problem known here is if you have activated the 05 Inspection type in the material master, that it is not activated in all plants relevant although QM in Procurement is set in all plants.
I hope that this resolves the described issue.
Regards,
Isabelle

Source inspection before 365 days of delivery date of purchase order

Hi Experts,
Business wants to create source inspection lot well in advance before 365 days of delivery date of purchase order. this lot is required to record results.
In SAP, transaction code QA51 allows only two digit characters for 'number of days for opening period' so system is not creating inspection lot for more than 99 days delivery date from current date.
Please advise.

Hi Patel, I really got interested on this particular issue because we have been using source inspection in our company for a while. After some investigation on ABAP code of report I will share with you my fact findings:
1) System calculates the start date of source inspection (delivery date from PO - Leadtime from q-info record). For example, in my test case it was 14.08.2015 - 0 days. So field g_datum below will be 14.08.2015:
2) System then checks if you are running the report in background (highlighted in yellow above). If so then it will check if the start date of inspection (g_datum) falls on opening horizon (g_datum_eroff). The opening horizon is calculated as per formula below (system login date + opening period). As an example: 14.08.2014 + 30 days = 13.09.2014.
Default opening period (p_eroff) is 30 days:
3) So all-in-all, when you are running QI07 online you´ll get a yellow traffic light on the long leadtime PO but you will be able to process it (on-line). However if you run the report in background (job scheduling) system will only create inspection lot to the relevant POs if the PO's delivery date falls on the 30 days window based upon the current date.

Source inspection - STOP Purchase Order GR

Hi,
We have a requirement in quality management in procurement process:
Requirement: System should perform inspection before goods receipt is made to the purchase order. Pre-receipt inspection should have three MIC to be inspected. When all the inspection characteristics are OK then system should receive the material to unrestricted. If MIC are not ok system should not let doing GR of purchase order.
Possible solution: I tried leveraging source inspection functionality to meet above requirement. I created QIR and selected Source inspection = 0101 and check box for Source insp u2013 no GR active.
Material master is assigned with inspection type 0101 and selected control key with GR for rejection = Goods receipt not allowed, GR control/Batch = u2018Do not create new ILu2019
When purchase order is created system is letting GR for the purchase order without error. I used QI07 and created an inspection lot for the purchasing document, however before I do UD for the inspection lot system is letting to do GR for purchase order Or before I create IL for the purchasing document system is allowing to do GR for the purchase order. Which I believe is incorrect.
Is there a way I can stop doing GR of purchase order if source inspection UD is not Ok. If source inspection UD is rejected then system should not let doing GR of purchase order.
Please advice...
Thanks
Regards
S

Just want to check if any recommendations for below issue ?
Thanks
S

Source inspection - inspection lot skip for certified vendor

Hii,
I have a requirement in which during source inspection, the inspection lot should not be created if the Vendor is certifed. I have made the following settings:-
1. In Vendor Master, maintained the Actual QM system in control-reference data.(QM system marked for skip in customizing)
2. In Material Master-
    - Activated QM Proc- QM control Key -Delivery release
    - Target QM system
    - Inspection type for source inspection activated in inspection set up
3.In Quality Info Record for Vendor,Material,Plant combination-in Inspection Control tab-
    - Maintained the existing QM system & validity
    - Selected 'No Inspection' in Insp. control
    In Vendor source inspection tab maintained the inspection type & lead time.
Inspite of the above settings, I can see this PO (for vendor,material,plant) in the source inspection worklist(QI07).
Please suggest as to which setting I might be missing.
Thanks!!!
Regards,
SV

Hi,,
You have to go T code QI07
where give input Vendor ,Material plant,
Delivery dateopening peroid
Then execute the transaction .
Select line item click oninsp lot & save.
Where you have trigger lot for the same then only lot will get genarated.
Regards
SANIL
This confugaration required if you have option if lots get rejected.
Quality management-QM logistics-QM procurement -Control key
Define control key;
GR/Source inspection control;
GR for rejection; three option is available
1.source inspection has no effect on goods receipt
2.Creation of new inspection lot
3.Goods receipt not allowed
Regards
SANIL
Edited by: Sanil Vadke on Mar 12, 2010 7:29 AM

Source Inspection

Hi
Qm Gurus
Can Anybody Tell me the cycle of Source Inspection
As Per My Knowledge we can decide Source Inspection In QInfo Record
Here We Gave lead time Days
Then In QI07 we trigger it Manually & generate Inspection Lot .
My Quesion is how it trigger Automatically.This inspection lot is not Stock Relevant? why
Regards
Sanjay

Hi Sanjay,
Here are the steps and settings for Source inspection:
In Q-infor record, select source inspection. Activate 01 insp type for material master in the QM view.
ME21N-CREATE PURCHASE ORDER
QI07-WORKLIST OF SOURCE INSPECTION -Select Create insp. lot and save.
QA32-INSPECTION WORKLIST
QA11-UD FOR SOURCE INSPECTION
MIGO-GR
QF11-DEFECT RECORDING
QA11-UD FOR GR
QA12-INCASE TO CHANGE QUALITY SCORE
QA13-TO CHECK HISTORY CHANGES
Reward if cleared or get back with queries
Keerthi

Vendor rating on source inspection

Hi,
I am doing source inspection for some materials ; now my requirement is I want to consider these usage decision scores given for these inspection lots in vendor evaluation rating,so how to do that.
Thanks
Vinay

Dear Vinay
In standard SAP vendor evaluation is based on GR inspection only. So it will not be possible to add source inspection to that. What you can do is add source inspection as subcriteria
1) You can maintain this manualy by
SPRO> MM> Purchasing> vendor evaluation > Define Criterial > quality > maintain subcriteria as Source inspection> maintain scoring rate as No automatic determination
2) try using the user exit and try to automize
SPRO> MM> Purchasing> vendor evaluation > Define Criterial > quality > maintain subcriteria as Source inspection> User exit MM06L001
Search for this user exit in the forum you will get lot of response.
hope this helps
Regards
gajesh

Supplier relationship status for Source inspection

Is it not possible to intiate supplier relationship status in quality info record for source inspected material???, please advice..
I already assigned no GR inspection in Quality info..

Hi,
Please go through the below links.
http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/e0c680d3-0706-2e10-4a9a-a5c67d6c4321?QuickLink=index&overridelayout=true
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/2d/351149448c11d189420000e829fbbd/content.htm
Regards
Hari

Source inspection configuration

dear all,
what is source inspection and vendor evaluation, please give me details of configuration steps for it.
thanks in advance

*What is Source Inspection*
What is source inspection and what are the setup required to do in system to implement successfully?
A source inspection is a quality inspection in which Buyer required the quality check before the material received. So that he performed the quality inspection at the vendoru2019s Location.
To setup source inspection, you should define inspection type (01 and 0101) in material master QM View. (MM01)
When requesting source inspection, include the following information:
a) Purchase order number
b) Item number
c) Part number
d) Quantity of parts to be inspected
e) Date source inspection is required
f)   Types of inspection required
     - In Process
     - Final
     - Interim
     - First Article Inspection (FAI)
g) Contact name and phone number
Go to transaction QI07 and give the material code, vendor, plant and opening period. When you execute the transaction you would find open purchase orders for the given input data. Select the Purchase Order you wish to perform Source Inspection and choose Create Inspection Lot. These inspection lot triggers for inspection type 0101. Against this inspection Lot perform result recording QE01 & QA11.
When finally you received Goods at your premises, then inspection lot will triggered automatically (01) and perform result recording QE01 & QA11
        How to do Source Inspection in QM
Can any one guide how to do Source Inspection in QM. What are the settings required to be done and can the lot for source inspection be trigerred manually or automatically.
The Q-Info Record is used to trigger a source inspection lot for a material/vendor and plant. Under the tab key Inspection Control in Q-Info Record, you would find vendor source Inspection and under that select the inspection type desired for source inspection (say 01,0101) and give the lead time required to perform the inspection in days (say 10 days). If you do not want to trigger an inspection lot @ GR for a source Inspection lot then check the box (Source Insp. No Gr).
Ensure that the inspection type selected @ source inspection is activated in the Material Master Record for the chosen material in the Quality Management View.
To trigger the lot manually you need to have some open purchase orders for the material/plant/vendor. Go to transaction QI07 and give the material code,vendor,plant and opening period. When you execute the transaction you would find open purchase orders for the given input data. Select the Purchase Order you wish to perform S.I and choose Create Inspection Lot.
This would trigger the lot and then it is QE01 & QA11.
Vendor Evaluation for Purchasing
Define the weighting keys in SM30 - V_T147J.
Weighting keys 01 and 02 are defined in the standard system. You combine the following
weighting shares for the standard main criteria:
Main criterion     Key 01 Key 02
Price                   1      5
Quality                 1      5
Delivery                1      2
Gen. service/support    1      1
Ext. service provision 1      2
Define the criteria in SM30 - V_T147G - Double click on the line items
In this step, you define the criteria by which the system computes scores for vendors and
specify whether the scores for the subcriteria are computed manually, semi-automatically, or
automatically.
You can also store your own methods of computation for the scores for subcriteria in the
form of user exits. The enhancement MM06L001 is available for this purpose.
Define the scope of list in SM30 - V_T147M - Double click on the line items
Define Purchasing Organization data for vendor evaluations in transaction OMGL.
An example :-
How the system calculates the score for the automatic subcriteria
"On-Time Delivery Performance"?
The system uses the statistics-relevant delivery date in the purchase order
(Items -> Delivery Schedule) and the goods receipt date to calculate date variances.
You use the statistics-relevant delivery date, for example, if you know that the vendor
will not deliver the material as scheduled on September 15 but on September 30. Enter the
delivery date as September 30, but enter the statistics-relevant delivery date as
September 15.
In calculating the score for on-time delivery performance, the system will then not use
the actual delivery date, but the statistics-relevant delivery date. This has a negative
effect on the score for this goods receipt.
However, materials planning and control uses the realistic delivery date (September 30)
which the vendor will actually adhere to.
The system considers only goods receipts against purchase orders and scheduling agreements
into stores and the release of GR blocked stock into stores. In the standard system, these
are the movement types 101 and 105.
Minimum Delivery Percentage - OMGL in the On-time delivery section
If you do not want a vendor to receive a very good score if he delivered the goods on time,
but did not deliver the required quantity, you can maintain a minimum delivery percentage
in Customizing.
Assume you set the Min. del. perc. parameter to 60% and the vendor delivers the goods on
time, but only 55% of the ordered quantity. Although the goods receipt is punctual, it is
not included in the calculation of the vendoru2019s score for on-time delivery performance. So
that the non-scoring of the on-time delivery performance criterion in this case does not
bring an unfair advantage in comparison with a poor score, the vendor is awarded a low score
for quantity reliability. On-time delivery performance is thus always to be seen in
conjunction with quantity reliability.
Standardizing Delivery Date Variance - OMGL in the On-time delivery section
To rate delivery date variances in days, maintain the Std.del.time var. parameter.
If you assign a lower standard value, this means that relatively low date variances produce
high percentage variances. If you set a higher standard value, this results in a relatively
low percentage variance:
The Std.del.time var. parameter has the value 20. The goods receipt took place on Nov. 27;
the statistical delivery date was Nov. 15. There is thus a difference of 12 days.
The system calculates the percentage variance as follows:
12 / 20 x 100 = 60
If the Std.del.time var. parameter had the value 60, the variance would be 20%
(12 / 60 x 100 = 20).
If you do not maintain this parameter, the system calculates the delivery time variance via
the firm zone in the case of scheduling agreements, and via the order date and the
statistics-relevant delivery date in the case of purchase orders.

Block goods receipt if open inspection lot for source inspection (SAP QM)

hello!
i would like to block the goods receipt for a purchase order item, if there is an open inspection lot for source inspection. i know how to block, if it rejected, but not what to do in this case.
thanks!
matthias

Hi matthias,
can you tell me how to block GR if inspection is rejected in source inspection??? as you said u know. please let me know.
Thanks!!
vinay

Incoming inspection through source inspection

Hello,
I want to do incoming inspection for few raw materials on lot basis (each trucks is one lot). But quality department do the inspection for certain characteristics and truck will allowed inside only if QA dept accepts the lot.
Then gross weight is taken and material is unloaded in yard. Again empty truck wt is taken through weigh bridge. Then Good receipt for that lot is done based on formula GRN qty= GROSS - Tare wt.
So I think option for me for incoming inspection is Source inspection. But quality needs data and Usage decision done to be based on lot wise. Is it possible for me to do source inspection based on lot wise for one open purchase order.
Concluding:- I need incoming inspn before Goods Receipt for each lots I receive. I may have one PO, but my vendor may give 5 trucks on that PO. Each truck I need to maintain as a lot for inspection.
Whats the best way...Assured rewards for best solution

Have you tried using inspection points for this? Each truck can be a new inspection point. But you can't make the UD until the end of the day or the next day which could be a problem. I think you'll have to have the material go right to unrestricted inventory, (turn off post to inspection stock in the inspection type setup for the 01.)
As you do each receipt, the qty of the truck will increment the inspection lot posting qty as well as unrestricted inventory. If an inspection point fails, the tech/mgr. would post that qty in the returns stock line. This would move the qty from unrestricted back to the vendor.
The final UD would be on the qty of all five trucks received for the day minus any that were rejected. You may need to work with the invoicing folks as to how this all impacts the invoice. But I beleive they'll see a shortage of material if any trucks were rejected.
Craig

Schedule delivery qty issue in source inspection process

Hi,
Issue : System is blocking GR if any one of the schedule delivery qty is rejected against same PO.
System been used : Source inspection process.
Issue in details:
We create PO for 3000 kg with delivery schedule as 1000kg on 12th sept, 1000 kg on 13th sept and 1000 kg on 14th sept and save it.
Then we go to QI07 and create three inspection lots against this PO. So during user decision if we reject any one of the inspection lot then whole PO get block for GR, system should allow to do GR of 2000kg but it is not allowing, it say material is blocked for quality.
Kindly resolve my issue
Regards,

Hello,
I doubt whether you can do this using source inspection. Now let me give you another option which will be manual in nature.
1. Checking should happen before GR. - Make use of manual inspection(89 type)
2. System should restrict the GR if the material is rejected. - Do not release the quantity in quality info record if the material is rejected.
3.System should allow GR for partial approved material and restrict GR for partial rejected material against same PO - Release the required quantity in quality info record so that the GR can be done only for those quantities. A normal 01 inspection type lot will be created.
4. Rejected quantity material PO should get open to take GR for replacement of rejcted material of same PO - You can make use of 122 movement type in the lot so that GR can be done for the rejected quantity as well.
Regards
Gajesh

UD Insp. Lot for Vendor Source Inspection

Experts,
I set up Vendor Source Inspection for some of our parts. Customizing setting for Rejected is "Create New Lot".
So in case of a "rejected" UD before GR I get a second insp. lot after GR. Both insp. lots are refering to the same PO, but I see no reference regarding the insp. lot number 1 in the insp. lot nubmber 2.
Same happens if I generate a QN refering to Insp. Lot before GR, QN Information will not be copied in the insp. lot after GR.
So my question is, is such a reference in between the inspection lots available ?
-Jörg

Thanks for your reply...
But it doesnt work....
I have mentioned a material with the Check box "Documentation reqd" ticked as "Construction type material of the object" in the Equipment in the Structure tab.
And tried the lot....But not able to get the long Text while UD...

How to prevent MIGO when source inspection lot is either open or rejected.

Hi
How to prevent doiMIGO when source inspection lot for the vendor/material is open or the source inspection lot is rejected.

Hi Sudhar,
Please find the process steps for your question :
How to prevent MIGO when source inspection lot is rejected
Go to Q-info record (QI02) for that particular material, vendor and Plant combination.
1.Use Inspection Type 0130 for source inspection.
2.Number of days ahead of lot to be created.
3.Through transaction code QI07 run the manual program to create a lot.This source Inspection may be rejected as in your case.
4.Control key contains the control on GR in the QM view of MM.
In the spro>QM>QM in Procurement-->Define Control Key and assign it to MM.
We can define here under Source Inspection Control that in case of GR for rejection-->GR not allowed.
This will prevent MIGO if in case Source Inspection Lot is rejected.
Thanks,
Ravi.

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