The follow up material results in recurssiveness
HI,
I have two BOMs one is plant specific production bom
& the other is group BOM which is engineering/design bom
Production Bom(plant specific)
parent MO
child 1 m1
child 2 m2
Enginering/desing bom(indepent of plant)
parent MO
child 1 m1
child 2 m2
m3
So in material master of m3 iam trying to discontinue with discontinuation indicator 1 with follow up material MO
The sytem is issuing the "the specified followup material results in recurssiveness"
why the system is throwing this message though m3 is not present in the production bom (which is plant specific)
Praveen,
Are you trying to say that if you maintain the material BOM for M0 with M3 as component and a follow up material as M0 again..?
It will definitely a recursive bom.
Or is it that you are maintaining a material M3 with follow up material as M0, where the M0 bom has components as m1 and m2 and you are getting this error in this case?
Please explain clearly..
Sumeet
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