Time management- Shift Management

Hi,
For our client
There are different shifts
1. General Shift
2. Morning Shift
3. Evening Shift
4. Night Shift
5. Shift A - 6 days working 4 days Holiday
Employees will be changing this shift apart from Schedule.
How to manage this othere than Shift planning Solution.
Rx

Hi,
Thanks for your reply,
I have written a PCR based on the DWS class, since we have shift allowances only for 2nd and 3rd shifts...i have given DWS classes for these two as 2 and 3 and written. And now the issue is, if employees works on OFF day also eligible for the shift allowance....how can continue here?
Since OFF day will have '0' as DWS class, what can be done for this...kindly suggest me with your valuable replies.
Regards,
Srinivas

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Please provide the information regarding the key differences between Negative Time Management & Positive Time Management.
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1. No clock times and assumed employee is working unless and until his or her absences are entered.
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>>>Integration between 3rd party system and SAP - Interface, logics
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Can anybody please provide me some data on the same.
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