Where to seek custom service for man-made damage to my T420
Hello,
I have recently dripple a few water drops to the touchboard area of my T420 when I was running it. Although I managed to shut it down normally after a few minutes without seeing a blackscreen or sudden crash of the system and I had poured a few water drops out from the computer right after the accident, I could not start it again any more. I know it is a man-made damage to the mainboard and this is usually costly without an extended warranty. So I am wondering where to seek custom service or private service to get my laptop fixed? Any suggestions for what I can do right now? I am in the west suburban of the Greater Chicago arae. Thanks!
Hi and welcome,
Sorry to hear about that accident. You can find a service provider using this tool: Find Service Provider or Service Center (full disclosure: I haven't tried it).
Was it just water? How long ago did this happen? There's at least a chance that once it has dried out the machine will be OK. A chance...
If you're comfortable doing this remove the battery, the keyborad, palm rest, HD, anything that isn't glued down, and let things dry thoroughly.
[edit] Hardware maintenance manual: ThinkPad T420 - Hardware Maintenance Manual
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The 112 books was an exaggeration I can only physically put my hand on 13 that are on my bookshelves.Nicely written, but alas it will fall on deaf ears and blind eyes.
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You wanted to stay with Verizon, you were willing to purchase another device, the relationship is then you are purchasing goods or services to remain a customer. The snafu is your account was not updated. Then because the people you spoke to did not have an answer for the situation, they lied to you.
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Profits for the shareholders ( yep my wife and I own a load of Verizon stock) and insane payments to the management are now focused on making money over the slight annoyances of a small minority of customers with varied issues.
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