Why Set up table in LO Extraction ?

Hi All,
In LO Extraction we have filling up of set up tables for doing Init and then delta falls into update table etc then using V3 collective run push it to Delta Queue. Then we extract into BW. Why in LO alone this is the methodology for extraction and why not in other extractions like COPA or HR or FISL or anything ? What is the reason for these unique steps in LO extraction alone ?
Kindly let me know the answer.
Best Regards,
Fanie Hudson.

This question has already been posted several times and lot of documents are available.
Have a look at these discussions:
set up tables
Set up tables
Set up tables
view of set up tables data in se11??????????
Set Up tables..
lo: delete set up tables: DOUBT
Blogs of Roberto will be useful as well:
/people/sap.user72/blog/2004/12/16/logistic-cockpit-delta-mechanism--episode-one-v3-update-the-145serializer146
LOGISTIC COCKPIT DELTA MECHANISM - Episode two: V3 Update, when some problems can occur...
LOGISTIC COCKPIT DELTA MECHANISM - Episode three: the new update methods
LOGISTIC COCKPIT - WHEN YOU NEED MORE - First option: enhance it !
LOGISTIC COCKPIT: a new deal overshadowed by the old-fashioned LIS ?
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/people/sap.user72/blog/2005/02/14/logistic-cockpit--when-you-need-more--first-option-enhance-it
/people/sap.user72/blog/2004/12/16/logistic-cockpit-delta-mechanism--episode-one-v3-update-the-145serializer146
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