Be Careful With Apple Authorised Services in Russia

Dear Society,
I have bad experience with contacting one of authorised services which is published in Apple web site. It is a company called "Service.OK" and situated in Zelenograd in particular. My MacBook Air 2,5 years old got to have a problem with a screen after few drops of wine leak inside from the vent area where black panel is situated and served for monitor and keyboard panels junction. I have not expected the problem with the laptop because the glass of wine feltdown far away from the place it is situated however it was lying upside down and closed. So drops still most probably go inside. After certain period of time I switched it on and started working. Suddenly the screen goes blue and later fade away. Next day I brougt it to the address where this "Service.OK" is situated for diagnosis.
In a week I got a call from the service where they offered to repair for about 7500 RUR in cleaning the oxidation that was caused by the wine. I gave my permit for this operation. After a week time I got a new call from the service and they informed me that they were unsuccsesful with reparing it and my laptop requires to change the whole screen panel. The price of it was 23000 RUR. This time I was angree that this company is not able to do right diagnosis and I do not know what to expect later even if changing the screen panel will be unsufficient for them. I asked them to stop any actions and return the laptop back to me. I promise to compensate thier effort for diagnosis though. The service said that I can pick up it after receiving sms notification.
13 days left and I got this sms notification. I was back from the business trip and came there in 5 days. And (what a surprise!!!) I got another display panel assembled to the keybord panel with my serial number. I am 100% sure that it is not mine from the scratches I had on the top/screen panel. I rejected to take it and called to
(A) Service.OK contact number claiming that and
(B) Apple support contact number desribing the problem.
(A) Service.OK informed me that my laptop was not delivered to them. The company which is operating on the address where Service.OK is shown in Apple web-site is no longer their representative point. It is another company as far as I unvestigated. However I got
(1) a receipt with Service.OK web address reference,
(2) Service.OK web site contained an information about my laptop being received and reviewed and
(3) Service.OK point shown on their web site is the same where I gave my laptop.
(B) Apple support specialist Natalia was responsible to communicate with me about my claim. She promised to report about this problem to higher department responsible for servises authorisation in Apple. However I was really dissapointed that no actions toward Service.OK was made by Apple. It is still on the authorised services list on the same address where I gave my laptop. She can only sorry to me because Apple has no legal company in Russia to handle this situation and thier company is just for providing support.
So I have a situation that neither Apple nor Service.OK are not willing to take responsibility that my laptop does not received qualified diagnosis under Apple authorisation and additionally its parts were changed while this diagnosis.
I am now consulting with lawer in order to investigate opportunity to claim about this problem to either Service.OK or company that issued an official receipt (or even propably to Apple) in the court.
Thus I would like to underline following statements:
- Be carefull with authorised service centers in Russia. Apple seems to do not care about what is going on there.
- Never deal with point in Zelenograd and be careful with other Service.OK points.
- Know your laptop serial numbers before giving it to diagnosis otherwise it is unable to prove own position.
I will be thankful if anybody from society had such problem in the past and may give any advice. Any opinions are welcome.
Thanks
Dimitri

You need Admin access to install and setup iCloud correctly.
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Well you would if you were running Windows, which I see you are not ........

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Alessia18 wrote:
My email is: .... if Apple decides this warrants a response!
If you want a response from Apple, you will need to contact them. This is a user-to-user technical support forum. Apple doesn't read these posts. Use the Contact Us link at the bottom right of every page for information on how to do that.
You seem to recognize that the store was very busy yet that doesn't seem to translate into understanding that it will be difficult to get an appointment. Should you be moved to the head of the line by the manager because you are some how a more loyal customer than the people who have already made appointments? Does it make sense that a store that's so busy you are having difficulty getting an appointment should send an employee with you to an authorized reseller? Contact AppleCare and make arrangements to have your phone sent in for repair.

My disappointment with Apple's Service

Since Apple makes it very difficult to just voice a complaint to them, I'll just post it here.
I had an iPhone 3G and went to answer it quickly one day while it was plugged in and the short charging cable made it slip from my hands and hit the corner of my nightstand.
This happened right around when Apple started the screen replacement program. I brought it in and forked over the $199 to get the screen replaced. I asked if I could get the damaged piece back, or at least the LCD since it was in perfect condition (it was mine after all and I was buying a replacement). They said that I couldn't have it because they had to send it back to apple for research (read: putting it on new touch-glass and reselling). I was also notified that my water sensor was triggered on the bottom of my phone and I told them it had never been near water, and it worked fine. When I got my phone back, the metal was separated from the plastic backing slightly and I asked about it and the worker said that it can happen with the replacements like that. I really didn't care. My phone worked fine and it wasn't a big deal.
The problem: about 1 1/2 - 2 weeks later, my new display started losing pixels. I ended up losing about 6-10 rows all the way across the bottom of my screen. I brought it back in because obviously the screen they gave me was faulty (probably off of someone else's cracked screen phone), and they told me that they couldn't do anything to fix it because it looked like the metal was separated from the backing a bit, and the water sensor was triggered so my warranty was void. I understand my overall phone warranty being void because of the water sensor I suppose, but for my replacement screen which was obviously broken at no fault of my own to not be under warranty 2 weeks after buying it??
I'm very disappointed in the way apple handled this situation because I feel like I was robbed of a perfectly good LCD and $199.
Apple, if you are reading this, you need to do a better job of keeping record of what issues are wrong with a phone when you do a service such as a screen replacement so that people don't get screwed over if your replacement is faulty. Poor customer service. I've been stuck with a bad LCD screen for 8 months now because I don't want to pay to have your mistake fixed. I'll make sure to post this everywhere I can so that you can be sure to see this.

Thank you for the feedback link.
Yes there is a repair warranty, I don't remember if it was 30, 60, or 90 days, but either way I was in the window. That's basically what my complaint is. I paid for a service that should have been covered by their warranty and they voided it based off of damages both caused by the repair, and that were there before the repair.

Trouble with Apple Repair Service

Hi All,
Anyone know how to get in touch with customer service at Apple? I had to bring my iMac in for service related to the power problem recall (http://www.apple.com/support/imac/repairextensionprogram/). Was told it woulod take 2-3 days. Now a week later I still have not gotten it back and the Apple Store has been zero help. I kinda get the feeling that they haven't even started it yet.
Any help would be greatly appreciated because I need my mac back for Monday,when graduate school resumes.
iMac G5 Mac OS X (10.4.3)

All Apple phone numbers are listed at the bottom of every page under Contact Us.
Keep in mind that the store might not have the parts to fix your Mac, so that could be the delay. When my iMac went in for the PSU and midplane replacement, it took 3 days.

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