1394 Inoperative, FSB Increase (BIOS)

After raising the FSB in BIOS from the default 200MHz to 210MHz, the 1394 Firewire hardware fails to function properly. When I look in the Device Manager, there is a yellow exclamation symbol next to it. When I click on it, it says "This device failed to load" or somthing to that extent. When I bring the FSB speed back to it's default speed settings, it does not fix the problem, I have to uninstall the device then scan for hardware changes for it to work again. Any help on this issue would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time.
K8T Neo FIS2R Flashed to current BIOS
Athlon 64 3000+
GeForce FX 5700LE
1x Lite-On DVD-RW
1x Atapi CD-RW
1xWD400BB HDD
1x512Mb Corsair PC2100, S1
1x512Mb Nanya PC3200, S2
Rhycom 450 ATX P4 PSU
Windows XP Home w/SP2
P.S. Not quite sure if this is the right place to post my question,
I apologize for any inconvenience I may have caused.

c&q used to work with it ,i tried a while back but the game i was playing would not kick it back to high gear all i could do was adjust the fsb in core center and it went from 800 to 830 as 30 pt fsb increase.(clawhammer core).
but i have since disabled it and left it on fast mode.

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sorry, i've searched for similar problems in the forums bellybuster have same thing I did the solution now 1394 is back.
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"...I have read the FAQ regarding this board and the "wait 15min" procedure when clearing the board's CMOS. Even after following all that, I still get the same thing..." Does it mean there are no changes in Bios after clearing CMOS ? You don't need to wait if you drain all current on Mobo after disconnecting P.Su. from wall socket and taking off battery, by pressing case power button. What is memory speed ? Both memory same make ? Have you tried with only 1 memory ? What are AMPS. actual P.Su. gives to 3.3v. 5v. and 12v. rails ? BTW. If. Mobo has jumpers to set FSB you should use them to set FSB. not Bios's.

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Quote from: wrangler on 31-July-07, 06:55:09
To Aaron: This is the overclocking forum right? I'm not here to "use what I have". What kind of advice or help is that. Totally inappropriate for this forum. No one in here is under any illusions that a 1 Mhz increase in FSB is going to make a difference. It is an example used to illustrate what is happening with the board. mmmkay. Thanks.
But he/she's complaining, it's appropriate IMO. No one likes a whiner.
If you say that you know increasing by 1FSB won't do anything, why did he/she bother doing it? Jump straight to 333FSB, set DRAM ratio to 1:1.2, CPU @ 3GHz and RAM @ 800Mhz, what's the problem with doing that?
I also said this earlier and he/she ignored it completely:
Quote from: AaronYuri on 26-July-07, 16:11:09
It has to be big steps:
333x8=2664MHz CPU clock. 1333FSB QDR
333x1.33=442MHz (884MHz DDR), Reapers will handle this easy, then start tighenting timmings. Or set divider to 1.5:1 to get a DDR speed of 1GHz, I would recomend 5-5-5-15 timings, then tighten them down. Increase voltage only if necessary.
Make sure you have sufficient cooling...
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It is a very old board
http://www.pcx.com.ph/showcase/profile.asp?id=165
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Fsb increase = xp doesnt boot

i was just wondering (as i have no reason to oc its just a query) why windows xp doesnt boot when i up the fsb to say 140...
i have a kt4, amd2000+ & 1gb of pc2100 twinmos memory

well that would be good if i was willing to search for such a cpu (those are actually rare, i can't find it in stores catalogs), and it would cost me around 70 euros if i did. i don't hink i could sell my palomino xp2000+ for that money, so wouldn't it be best for me to perform the unlocking of the palomino?
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However even if it not start after 2-3 reboot it start in safe mode(as after OC) and you can change the settings.
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Always remember what said over about the +67 mhz on FSB when you move the jumper!!!!

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Memory Voltage 1.400V
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I am trying to help out a friend who has this board, we've tried 4 different mushkin xp2-8500 2x2GB kits
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#1
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#4
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#5
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tWRWR: Auto
tRDRD: Auto
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tRFC1: 375ns
tRFC2: 375ns
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