21cn upgrade connection fee

Jst got this months bill looks like I may have been charged a 30 quid connection fee as my bill is exactly 30 quid extra. If this is the case iam really nt happy this was never mentioned when I signed up for it. All I got told was I would be entering into a new contract. This will be the .3rd billing issue in 3 months really nt impressed at all . It's jst one thing after another. Has anyone else been charged this for upgrading

Email the board mods at this link http://bt.custhelp.com/app/contact_email/c/4951
and ask them to get it reset for you
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Issues since 21cn upgrade

After 21cn upgrade connection speed has gone up, but ping has gone from 29ms to over 80 and overall the connection doesn't seem as good, as an avid online gamer does have a big effect on the online experience.
Heard it could be the interleaving. Any ideas appreciated

if you are a gamer then as john46 said already the preferred latency is 'fast' and not interleaved. moving to fast can make your line less stable and might be a problem as your noise margin is already low at 2.9
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21CN upgrade and Connection Speed

Hello everyone.
Just before christmas i noticed that the BT Wholesale site has changed from having a date for my exchange getting the 21CN upgrade completed and a speed of upto 17mb to the new speed being available now.
Prior to the upgrade i acheived about 7mb download speeds. The problem is even after the upgrade the speed had not changed.
Do i have to do anything to bet the speed increase or will it happen automatically?
How long after the upgrade is done does it usually take for the speed to change?
My current settings are:
Downstream 7616
Upstream 448
SNR 98 / 230
Attenuation 180 / 90
Thanks
MP

pottyperson wrote:
Once an exchange is upgraded ADSL2 is rolled out to customers automatically in batches, and it could be a few days or several months before it reaches everyone. It might be possible jump the queue by agreeing a new minimum period contract otherwise it just a question of waiting. You should get an email from BT when it's due and when it's done, though I only got one after the event.
[EDIT: Blimey, that's four of us with nothing better to do. ]
at least the answers were consistent
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Moving house connection fee?

Well basically i've moved home and they couldn't promise my infinity because flat I was moving too wasn't listed as having a phoneline (Had it in my previous house) so they said what we'll do is put you down for regular broadband install it and if infinity is there then you can call us and just upgrade. The engineer came by and did install a phone line because there wasn't one.
Now i've checked my account recently and it says connection fee of 130? i'm confused I thought it was free, it was with infinity and the customer service agent on the phone told me yeah it'll be free no problems.
I'm not sure if this happened on my first infinity statement because I don't remember checking it, I think it just said connection fee 130 then said below -130 because it's free with the package.
What's going on here? I sincerely hope I they won't be asking for a connection fee or I would have gone with virgin instead. I was told there would be no fee.

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I am sorry to see you are having problems
I suggest you contact live chat at this link they should be able to help you
http://bt.custhelp.com/app/contact/c/2902/?s_intcid=con_intban_sanda_contact_us_chat_from_forums
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Slow Broadband after 21CN Upgrade?

Before my scheduled 21 upgrade my download connection has been rock solid at 8000K for several years. My whole recent experience with BT has been very disappointing and I hope you can throw some light on a solution.
So Far:
My Equipment: BT2000 Faceplate, RJ11 to BT Homehub 1010, 1 Extension fitted (No Bell wire Connected).
Problem 1. Now resolved. On the day of my appointment the engineer connected my dial tone and broadband to someone else’s line in the next village. The fault call centre insisted the fault could only be in my property as the line tested OK and I would have to accept the possible charges. Despite my requests for them to despatch an engineer to the exchange as it is more than a coincidence that my dial tone disappeared at the same time as my scheduled changeover they insisted I have an appointment. The fault was cleared in the exchange by the visiting engineer.
Problem 2. Now resolved. The engineer did not remove the call divert on my line and I missed my incoming calls for several days as my calls were diverted to a random number. I tried #21# and this did not work, so I contacted BT again. They informed me they could not remove the divert because they had not put it on. After investigation #61# managed to remove my divert. When I asked why it was not removed when my line was fixed I was told that I must have put the divert on myself as it was done by someone with access to my line. The whole point that my line had been connected elsewhere was totally alien to the call centre worker.
Problem 3. On going
After 14 days of Mediocare performance I was connected much slower speed than my old connection and as my profile was 4000k this is only half of my previous performance. (See Below)
1. Best Effort Test: -provides background information.
Download Speed
5959 Kbps
0 Kbps
4000 Kbps
Max Achievable Speed
Download speed achieved during the test was - 5959 Kbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speeds is 1200-4000 Kbps.
Additional Information:
Your DSL Connection Rate :4603 Kbps(DOWN-STREAM), 1251 Kbps(UP-STREAM)
IP Profile for your line is - 4000 Kbps
The throughput of Best Efforts (BE) classes achieved during the test is - 16.4:29.53:54.07 (SBE:NBEBE)
These figures represent the ratio while sententiously passing Sub BE, Normal BE and Priority BE marked traffic.
The results of this test will vary depending on the way your ISP has decided to use these traffic classes.
2. Upstream Test: -provides background information.
Upload Speed
873 Kbps
0 Kbps
1251 Kbps
Max Achievable Speed
>Upload speed achieved during the test was - 873 Kbps
Additional Information:
Upstream Rate IP profile on your line is - 1251 Kbps
So I call BT again and after I have established that the only changing parameter is the new 21CN upgrade I am promised that a request will be passed to the engineers to increase the profile........ The result is that they just reset my profile, so once again my speed fluctuates for several days from a virtual stop to slow.
It is now six days since reporting my slow speed problems after receiving several calls from BT to ask me if my speed has improved, I am finally a broken man today.
They insist that I have a broadband boost engineer, before I accept this, I ask several questions and failed to get any acceptable answers..
What is wrong with my broadband? You have a fault in the property (change the record!!)
Why cannot you tell me the speed I am connected at. You cannot WOOSH test me? We cannot tell, we have to call you
Can I speak to the engineers? You cannot Sir
Can I speak to your Boss? No, why would you want to do that!
What have you done in the exchange to fix my fault? We have changed some things
Do you thing it is acceptable to still have slow speeds after twenty days? That's why you need a boost engineer
What are you going to do differently from all the other people I have spoken to to resolve my issue. Nothing
So with no other option I accept that an appointment will have to be made again. I am offered an appointment in the week, when I explain that I have business appointments and that I need a weekend appointment I am told none is available or would be available. So I agree to a Monday appointment. After the call I get a text to say I have an appointment has been made for Thursday! So I have to call them back and ask for the appointment I have been promised and I am told it's a simple and easy mistake to press the wrong button, it happens quite often!!
I since read here that it may help to upgrade my homehub, so why have they not sent me a replacement days ago?
Current Performance:
1. Best Effort Test: -provides background information.
Download Speed
2024 Kbps
0 Kbps
2000 Kbps
Max Achievable Speed
Download speed achieved during the test was - 2024 Kbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speeds is 800-2000 Kbps.
Additional Information:
Your DSL Connection Rate :2271 Kbps(DOWN-STREAM), 771 Kbps(UP-STREAM)
IP Profile for your line is - 2000 Kbps
The throughput of Best Efforts (BE) classes achieved during the test is - 13.35:23.63:63.06 (SBE:NBEBE)
These figures represent the ratio while sententiously passing Sub BE, Normal BE and Priority BE marked traffic.
The results of this test will vary depending on the way your ISP has decided to use these traffic classes.
2. Upstream Test: -provides background information.
Upload Speed
592 Kbps
0 Kbps
771 Kbps
Max Achievable Speed
>Upload speed achieved during the test was - 592 Kbps
Additional Information:
Upstream Rate IP profile on your line is - 771 Kbps
I know there are more important things going on in this world. But my work, my ebay, my shopping, my banking, my social sites etc. all require bandwidth and to have it taken away disguised as an upgrade obviously upsets me. I am shocked at the complete lack of communications, and the inability to listen and understand your customers. What is the point of a call centre that can do NOTHING outside their script to help!
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Not sure why my profile is still changing and why I was disconnected today, probably the call centre doing another line test.
Uptime:
0 days, 10:24:37
Modulation:
G.992.5 annex A
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]:
803 / 2,523
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [MB/MB]:
322.86 / 348.70
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]:
12.0 / 0.0
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]:
19.0 / 31.0
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]:
13.5 / 30.0
Vendor ID (Local/Remote):
TMMB / IFTN
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote):
1 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote):
0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote):
0
Error Seconds (Local/Remote):
1 / 0
FEC Errors (Up/Down):
0 / 0
CRC Errors (Up/Down):
0 / 0
HEC Errors (Up/Down):
0 / 0
Line Profile:
Fast

Extremly slow BB After 21CN upgrade

On last wednsday exchange in Dungannon got a 21CN upgrade. I thougt yea great news finally i'll get more than 9-10 Mbits. I must admit that before upgrade my bb was rock stable no problems at all ofc some minor dissconections occured during a 4 year period but it happens right? But after the Exchange upgrade my broadband is awfully slow it's almost like dial-up connection, i can't even do my work from home or use internet services which i've paid for upfront.
I've posted on forums recently i was told to leave my hub on 24/7 for few days, and it should solve my problem,since the line need to settle down after the updrade. But it's already 6th day after the upgrade and nothing changed .... well almost nothing ...
Here are the stats from my hub taken todays morning.
ADSL line status
Connection information
Line state Connected
Connection time 5 days, 0:47:10
Downstream 283 Kbps
Upstream 440 Kbps
ADSL settings
VPI/VCI 0/38
Type PPPoA
Modulation ITU-T G.992.5
Latency type Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up) 22.9 dB / 30.3 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up) 29.0 dB / 16.1 dB
Output power (Down/Up) 0.0 dBm / 12.9 dBm
Loss of Framing (Local) 0
Loss of Signal (Local) 0
Loss of Power (Local) 0
FEC Errors (Down/Up) 208 / 0
CRC Errors (Down/Up) 0 / 2147480000
HEC Errors (Down/Up) nil / 0
Error Seconds (Local) 0
When i got back from work about 5pm connection went down for a short period of time (i belive i've been resynced or smth like that) and afterwards my stats look like that
Line state
Connected
Connection time
0 days, 2:11:13
Downstream
283 Kbps
Upstream
1,108 Kbps
ADSL settings
VPI/VCI
0/38
Type
PPPoA
Modulation
ITU-T G.992.5
Latency type
Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up)
22.1 dB / 9.0 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up)
29.0 dB / 16.2 dB
Output power (Down/Up)
0.0 dBm / 12.9 dBm
Loss of Framing (Local)
0
Loss of Signal (Local)
0
Loss of Power (Local)
0
FEC Errors (Down/Up)
2315 / 4294967264
CRC Errors (Down/Up)
0 / 2147480000
HEC Errors (Down/Up)
nil / 0
Error Seconds (Local)
0
im very happy cuz finally i can send files to my employer faster also uploading stuff for my private use/backup is easier now but what the **bleep** is with downstream speed? i can understand that setting up new exchange equipment can take some time, same goes for stabilization of the line but how long do i need to have to wait till i'll get what i'm paying for?
P.S excuse my english it's not my native language
Forgot to add speedtest results
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I know exactly what you mean = probably find most people on the forum know the feeling. the speed down is very low but as I said BT will not do anything while still in the training period.
if no change after 10 days training the contact mods for assistance http://bt.custhelp.com/app/contact_email/c/4951
just fill out the form
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Connection Fee for Skype Pro

I have been a Skype Pro user for years and have just realized just now that I have been paying a "connection fee" when making "FREE" local calls.
Chatting with a customer support person was useless.
If paying a monthly fee, then rid the "connection fee".
I am planning on taking this further.
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I've been a Skype uaser since it's first beta public release and put a fair amount of money towards the service in Skype credit, when it was worth it.
As no good deed goes unpunished, I have never-ever received such inept "support" from any legit or non-legit operation. Count on Microsoft to screw up anyhting that used to be good and replace it with a faceless, suportless thingie that nowadays gives NSA a backdoor into it, to top things off.
Anyways, here is my take on it with Kenneth, the useless rep that kept reciting the menaingless mantra that this disgraced company calls "support":
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Re: SRX1218625810ID - Skype Pro subscription useless
Kenneth,
I would really like to talk to a supervisor / manager regarding this issue, which in my opinion is abusive and illegal billing.
You are now a Microsoft product and as such you should be abiding by US consumer laws, which are similar to the ones we have in Canada and offer consumer protection against scams like this.
Why does Skype keep charging me every month when the service I'm paying for is no longer offered?
And why wasn't I offered a credit or an upgrade based on the money I've invested in the "service"?
Please provide a path of escalation to this issue and / or an email address or phone number for someone in management that can answer these question and bring a resolution to the problem.
If I don't a response within 72 hrs - and I don't mean the kind of answers you are giving me, I will use every means at my disposal to discredit Skype for illegal billing practices and lack of actual customer support.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: Skype Customer Support <[email protected]m>
To: [Removed for privacy]@yahoo.com
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 2:06:12 AM
Subject: SRX1218625810ID - Skype Pro subscription useless
Thank you for your response.
Upon checking your account, your Skype Pro started year 2008. Skype Pro is not offered anymore that is why it doesn't recognize you as a premium user. You can upgrade to other available subscription so you will be able to use other feature of Skype.
We will be waiting for your response.
Best regards,
Kenneth F
Skype Customer Service
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JoeSchmoez wrote:
I've had the same questions about what Skype Pro actually offers as benefits these days (as of August 2013) and I finally decided to contact Skype support to get a definitive answer. First it took about 10 minutes to figure out how to contact anyone (99% of the support links send people back to these forums and the FAQs). Anyway, after an extended live chat session the end result: No one knows.

Connection fee for free one month trial

Hi, I just signed up for one month free unlimited world calling. I wanted to know if a connection fee applies for calls under this plan.
Thanks.

Hi,
I understand that you have subscribed with Azure and started to use Free one Month trial. However , you wanted to keep it for later use.
This is not possible because the Free trial expires in 30 days and Microsoft azure will suspend the free trial account. You can optionally upgrade your trial to be a Pay-As-You-Go Azure subscription at this point if you want to continue
Or if you wanted to use only the Free trail, then you might have to subscribe with another Live ID [ email address ] which is active for 30 days.
If you are a student, Microsoft Azure Education Grants might help which are focused on enabling educators to easily leverage the benefits of the Microsoft Azure for curriculum development and teaching. Through these grants, educators can obtain easy access,
with no Credit Card required, to the Microsoft Azure for an extended period of time at no cost for themselves and their students. Access to the Microsoft Azure is made possible through 5-month Microsoft Azure Academic Passes. Educator Grants may be available
up to the number of students within the course, dependent on the volume of requests, pass availability, and the needs of the course.
Educators at accredited academic institutions can apply for the Microsoft Azure Educator Grants.
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What is the connection fee with the Unlimited Lati...

Hi! I'm considering Unlimited Latin America. There's a small footnote in the description. It says that a connection fee applies. I'd like to please know how much Microsoft will be charging me then a month. Is it $10 for the unlimited or is it $10 + the fee every single time I call during the month. Thanks,
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shakira2 wrote:
Hi! I'm considering Unlimited Latin America. There's a small footnote in the description. It says that a connection fee applies. I'd like to please know how much Microsoft will be charging me then a month. Is it $10 for the unlimited or is it $10 + the fee every single time I call during the month.
Hello and welcome to the Skype Community.
The Unlimited Latin America Subscription costs $9.99/month. There are no connection fees with any Subscription
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£130 Connection Fee - Waived But Not For Long.....

Good evening all,
I really do hope someone can help me out with this problem I am currently having with regards to a connection fee charge.
I have been a BT landline customer since 2007 and up until a few months ago had not encountered a single problem hence when this occurred I genuinely thought it would take one single phenomenal to fix. Unfortunately this was not the case.
The problem started when I moved address and entered my new property on the 31st of July, approximately 6 miles away from my old address. Along with the usual things like SKY TV etc, all my services were taken care of by 'Home Move' teams, BT seemed to be the most difficult to negotiate. Because I was moving to a different exchange area, I would have to cancel my long standing account and open a new one. I spoke to a few UK staff members on call and there was no mention of a charge.
After longing and hoping that I did not have to wait too long for a phone connection in my new apartment so that I could get my broadband up and running, I was told on call that an engineer would have to come out and install a line within the property so booked a day off work to be in the flat.
Even better than taking a day off to wait in all day, was the text message I received from 'BTSMS' stating that my "advised appointment on the 12-AUG 2011 between 1pm and 6pm is no longer required for order (VOL011-XXXXXXXXXXXX) Our records show that you already have a phone socket and wiring within your home and can complete the order without the need to visit."
Long story short, my phoneline was working in the flat (SKY tv requires an active line to access interactive services) so without BT actually needing to do anything, the line was in there already
The problem was, I soon received a bill in confirming there had been a £130 charge to my account. I called, waiting 50 minutes on the phone and spoke to Offshore (India) who were sympathetic to my situation and he seemed to understand what the problem was. He stated he would be able to reverse the charge.
No sooner had 48 hours passed and I received another bill through the post explaining I HAD been charged £130 for a connection fee.
I subsequently went through the rigmarole of phoning Offshore, speaking to 2 further administrators and a Manager who promised to look into my queries, even pulling the necessary phenomenal to listen to and call me back - I never received a call back.
That in itself, for one of the worlds largest communication companies, unable to call a customer back, is just plain ignorant.
I have steered away from contacting the Office of Fair Trading, OFCOM etc as I do believe this to be an easily rectifiable mistake but I have lost hope and require guidance please from anyone that may have been through this before.
Thank you.

Hi I suggest you contact the forum mods they should be able to get your problem sorted for you this is a link to them
http://bt.custhelp.com/app/contact_email/c/4951
they normally reply by email or phone directly to you within 72 hours
They are a UK based BT specialist team who have a good record at getting problems solved
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Connection fee

without a skype number when i call romania it has a .30 connection fee from the us if i have a skype number do i still pay a .30 connection fee

This should not be the case, if you have the subscription and are calling a U.S. number and you are in compliance with the FUP ("Fair Useage Policy").
Please see this: http://support.skype.com/en-us/faq/FA10416/Why-isn-t-my-subscription-working
Are you using a leading 1 with your number? What does the flag look like in the call window, is it a U.S. flag?
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Re: "* A small connection fee applies." Call land...

Kizzume wrote:
How much is this connection fee?
I believe SKYPE can reconsider about this "SMALL! connection fee", calls are connected by the caller through the hardware and software and the systems are in place by default . Hence the OLD STYLE of a person connecting the call is farsical. SKYPE being a premier in this environment and getting popularity would benifit if they remove this SMALL connection fee. Now with all automated systems it is not justifiable to charge a CONNECTION FEE on top of the calling fee per minute or second ?
TO ALL READER OF THIS MESSAGE PLEASE VOICE YOUR SUPPORT TO CONVINCE SKYPE TO LISTEN. ALTERNATIVELY WE MIGHT GO TO "VIBER" ENMASS NO FEE.

Hi,
A connection fee is charged when you use Skype Credit to call a mobile or landline. Connection fees are charged according to the currency set in your Skype account.
There are two different kinds of connection fees in Skype:
Global Rate countries
Non-Global Rate countries
For more information on how to find which connection fee applies to the country you are calling, visit: https://support.skype.com/faq/FA1050
Connection fees are also subject to the following conditions:
If the call lasts less than one second, the call is not charged.
If the call lasts more than one second, the connection fee is calculated based on your account currency.
If your currency is not set, the connection fee will be calculated in Euros.
If your billing address is within the EU, the connection fee is subject to 15% VAT – so for example, the actual cost for a connection fee of €0.039 (the global rate) would be €0.045. However, since your Skype Credit has been subject to 15% VAT at the time of purchase, you would see the amount of €0.039 deducted from your Skype Credit.
If a call is declared to be free of charge (such as a promotion or 0800 number) the connection fee is not charged.
If you have one of our Unlimited subscriptions, the connection fee is not charged for the calls covered by the subscription.
If you need further clarifications, you may contact our Customer Support directly through this link: https://support.skype.com/faq/FA1170
Hope this helps.
Julian

$35 connection fee

Just looked at my monthly bill. I added a phone that I already had, no contract needed, to my plan. Whats this $35 connection fee? The guy in the verizon store didn't care to tell me anything about this.

I agree - we added a line for one of our kids, then it turned out they didn't need it. Within 24hours we canceled the line. We were not told of the $35 if so we probably would have just helped our child out and gotten them a track phone for less than that. Verizon didn't even get the billing correct, which it would of been just $9.99 for an extra line no extras and they charged us double that. That was taken off but they still have not called us back about the $35 activation fee that we were not told of either & they said they were going to have someone call back. Now they have charged us a $5 late fee on that portion we did not pay. Very frustrating to say the least...

Connection fee - Charge on Per minute basis or Per...

I am new and want to use Skype to call Fix and Mobile line, I find there is a connection fee. Does that charge on on Per minute basis or Per connection basic?
Thanks,
Jeff
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Hi,
A connection fee is charged when you use Skype Credit to call a mobile or landline. Connection fees are charged according to the currency set in your Skype account, and per call.
For more information on how to find which connection fee applies to the country you are calling, visit:
https://support.skype.com/faq/FA1050
Connection fees are also subject to the following conditions:
- If the call lasts less than one second, the call is not charged.
- If the call lasts more than one second, the connection fee is calculated based on your account currency.
- If your currency is not set, the connection fee will be calculated in Euros.
- If your billing address is within the EU, the connection fee is subject to 15% VAT – so for example, the actual cost for a connection fee of €0.039 (the global rate) would be €0.045. However, since your Skype Credit has been subject to 15% VAT at the time of purchase, you would see the amount of €0.039 deducted from your Skype Credit.
- If a call is declared to be free of charge (such as a promotion or 0800 number) the connection fee is not charged.
- If you have one of our Unlimited subscriptions, the connection fee is not charged for the calls covered by the subscription.
Hope this helps.
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Connection fee for free Skype Credit

Hi,
I recently got free Skype Credits to call landlines or mobile for up to 75 minutes. However, I would like to check if the connection fees will be deducted from this credit, since the website states that 'Calls made as part of any of our subscriptions are exempt from connection fees.'
Thanks for your assistance
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MarkChen wrote:
Hi Andre,
So will it be deducted from the credit, or as a separate charge? Thanks for the info!
From Skype Credit. When making calls with Skype Credit you have 2 charges:
1) Rate per minute: http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/prices/payg-rates/
2) Connection fee per call: http://www.skype.com/go/connectionfee
This is why I would recommend a subscription if you are making lot of calls. With subscriptions you only make 1 payment monthly, every 3 months or yearly and you don't need to worry about connection fee.
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