Account-based PA vs. profit center accounting
Hello,
I am pretty new to this area. We are planning to use account-based PA in SAP and we are already using PCA.
So we are wondering if it is possible to "copy/convert" existing reports in PCA (KE5A) into PA?
The second question is, are PA and PCA "using" the same data?
Thanks
Anne
Hi,
Definitely, not. The reports of PCA not only based on different tables, but also use different extraction logic than reports of CO-PA. You will have to build a separate set of reports for CO-PA.
Regards,
Eli
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