ASO - time balance

I have my accounts dimension that contains all our balance sheet and income statement. The balance sheet accounts shall be marked as "TB:Last".
Problem is that because of ASO does not suppport Dynamic Time Series i cretead my time hierarchy as multihierarchy with dynamic hierarchies. And now i can not mark my accounts as TB: Last as this requires time to have only stored hierarchies.
Is there some workaround that can help?
Thank you very much
lubos

You can create the calculated members within the existing time dimension, but it get ugly and probably won't perform great. For starters you will have to create a calculated member with a formula for every stored time member you have. Not too bad for 12 months, but if you ahve years and months in same dim or daily model, its not realistic. That is the beauty of View dimension, a single formula goes a long way.
Other option is to not have alternate roll-ups in time dim - perhaps you can use Attribute dims to simulate the alternate groupings you need.

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We are on Essbase 9.3.0.1 and also tried to use ASO Time balance functions in conjunction with multiple hierarchies enabled.
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Hello Gurus,
Following is my scenario -
I have an EPMA Essbase applications that I have deployed from Workspace.
I have observed that even though the Time Balance property for members for the accounts dimension are set to Balance (as seen in Dimension Library) in EPMA, after I deploy the application the dimensions are tagged as TB Last in Essbase outline (as seen in EAS).
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http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E17236_01/epm.1112/esb_dbag/dcatimse.html
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http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E17236_01/epm.1112/hp_admin_11122/ch12s04s08s01.html
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Hello,
Check this forum, see if that helps..
Time Balance is set to Last for EPMA Essbase application in Essbase Outline
The last post in the above thread might be helpful.
Thanks,
hyperionEPM
Please mark answer as helpful or correct for others to find it easliy.

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www.analitica.co.uk

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