ATP & Planned Order
Hi ,
Please help to explain me what exactly is meant by saying ATP done against Production Order , Planned Order as per assigned checking group .
How can I activate the same settings in my Order .
Thanks
MM_sD
Hi,
This question is discussed previously on SCN. If you search on SCN then you will get the various discussions on the same. Find below thread for your information.
What is ATP Check ?? | SCN
Availability check in production orders | SCN
Regards,
Narresh
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ATP-check - check completely confirmed planned orders
Hi everyone,
I just stumbled over sth. during checking the ATP-settings in my system.
In OVZ9, when double-clicking on any of the combinations of checking-group and checking-rule, in the lower part of the righthand-side, I got the option to include planned orders as well. Now, if I open up my options, I find 4 of them:
- empty: Do not check
- A: check firmed planned orders only
- B: check completely confirmed planned orders
- C: check all planned orders
So... can anybody tell me what's the story with completely confirmed planned orders? I know what it means to firm planned orders and I know how to do it, but what's the point with that?
Any help greatly appreciated!
Regards... BobbyHi,
There was a bug in the standard program.
SAP create a new SAP Note '1616590' for the above correction.
Thank You. -
Hi Experts,
I have configured the ATP rule for Planned Orders. So I only want to check the component stock and Production Orders when running ATP check for the Parent Material.
In OPJJ, I only selected the following options.
Include Safety Stock : Ticked
Check without RLT : Ticked
Incl.production orders : X (Take all production Orders into account)
No other options or boxes have been selected
Also I have included the relevant Checking group in MRP 3 for the Parent Material (Checking Rule has been assigned to that Checking Group in Config) and also maintain the Plant Parameters for MRP (assign the checking rule to the plant)
So, For an example :
Parent : A
Components : B and C
Parent Material A has only 5 Planned Orders starting on same day 20.05.2014 each qty 5
Components B got stock 300
Components C got stock 1
When I ran ATP Check for the Parent material A using COHV, qty 1 has been allocated to all the planned orders as committed. Why is this happening ?
I also checked in CO09 for the Component Material C, and it says ATP Qty is only 1. I expected the system would allocate that stock 1 to one of the Orders but it seems to be not working as I expect.
Any explanations will be much appreciated and will not hesitate to avoid the points.
Kind regards,
IsharaHi DB49,
Appreciate your reply. Please see the following comments.
Right now I have been assuming that you have performed an availability check manually for one of the planned orders, and you got the same results (overconfirmation). Please confirm.
Yeah I have performed for one order and it gave me the same result. Also, when I perform for the 2nd Order, it allocates the quantity.
OK, basic things you should already have checked:
You have maintained the checking rule for planned orders (OPPQ or OPPR)
You have maintained the ATP group for the materials (OVZ2)
You have assigned the ATP group to the Material Master of the components (MM02)
You have maintained the scope of check according to the rules you mentioned earlier (OPPJ).
You have no planning strategy in the component material that would have invoked a special ATP.
I checked everything apart from point 2 (OVZ2). I have maintained that via MRP Group and that MRP Group has been linked to Master Data (MRP 3)
Really appreciate your support in this.
Kind regards,
Ishara -
How to find atp category of planned order in APO
Hello experts,
I have to change planned order ATP category in APO system. Is that category stored in any database table?
I'm using /SAPAPO/OM_ORDER_CHANGE to achieve this, but I want to know current ATP category of order before changing it.
Thanks in advance!
Kind regards!
EmanuelHello Emanuel,
The planned order ATP categories in APO are
AI PlOrd. Planned order (not firmed, unconfirmed)
AJ PlOrd. (F) Planned order (firmed, unconfirmed)
AK PlOrd.(NC) Planned order (not firmed, confirmed)
AL PlOrd.(CF) Planned order (confirmed, firmed)
Not sure whether you are asking how to find out the ATP category within the SAPAPO/OM_ORDER_CHANGE .
Regards
Gk -
ATP : Scope of check planned order
Dear guru
In the ATP scope of check with inclusion planned orders I have also option B : only check planned order that are completely confirmed.
What does it mean completely confirmed ?
Thanks in advance.Setting in scope of check is set to only consider completely confirmed planned orders
After some further testing with a 3 level BOM...
C > B > A, Each level has a planned order
When all 3 levels are shortage free, the availability check confirms each planned order as being 100% complete.
Creating a partial shortgage on planned order C will confirm planned orders B and A as 0% complete and planned order C as partially complete.
Creating a partial shortage on planned order B will confirm C as complete, B as partially complete and A as 0% complete. -
User exit/ badi needed for planned order create/change,collective ATP check
Dear All,
I'm looking for a user exit/ badi which can be used for planned orders at the stage of
mass collective availability check (COMAC tcode) update; or at some other relevant stages of mass update of planned orders.
I need after collective availability check to perform the following:
1) to copy date from "total comitment" field on header tab of planned order and paste it (replace old date) to order finish date on header screen
then
2) to start a scheduling.
Very appreciate your help.
Best Regards,
Andrey
Edited by: Andrey Kruglov on Apr 15, 2010 3:06 PM
Edited by: Andrey Kruglov on Apr 15, 2010 3:07 PMDear,
Use the BAPI : BAPI_PLANNEDORDER_CHANGE
Or use the function module MD_SET_ACTION_PLAF for Schedule planned order.
and the transaction MDAC Execute action for planned order
This function module includes the following actions:
Explode BOM
Explode BOM, check availability
Check availability, only explode BOM in the case of a requirement
Check availability, do not explode BOM
Reset availability
Change planned order data
Schedule planned order
Delete planned order
Assign the key for the respective action control to the materials in the material master (MRP 4 view).
Please refer this thread,
Re: MDVP for collective orders
Regards,
R.Brahmankar -
Sample of ATP Breakage at Conversion of Planned Order
Hi,
When creating the Sales Order system carries out availability check and shows missing parts with
Commitment date as 99/99/9999, missing components are updated with forecast planning based on this
Schedule line Qty confirms to 1 and sales order saved, planned order created automatically.
Based on planned order production order created from MD04 transaction, while creating production order
Missing components are displayed. Once the production order is saved and released the confirmed sales order QTY
is reset to From one (1) to zero (0).
While carrying out an availability check for the production order system is carrying out an Availability check again on the
Sales order and resetting the confirmed quantity to zero which is incorrect. On running the availability check again on this
Sales order system throws an error and the quantities can never be confirmed.
if any one knows any solution for this please update.
regards
rajani yeluriHi Rajini
can you pl. indicate what is strategy group used in material master & othwer settings like availablity field in material master & what is the checking groupo used for the concerned plant in MRP.
If you indicate the above details , I can guide you further
Regards
YMREDDY -
Order Processing - Capacity and ATP check with planned order
Dear all,
is it possible to block the creation of a sale order based with PP strategy 81 (or similar) if missing components for planned order are given?
Is also possible to block the creation of a sale order with PP strategy 81 (or similar) if no alllowable capacity for planned order is given in the scheduled dates?Luca,
is it possible to block the creation of a sale order based with PP strategy 81 (or similar) if missing components for planned order are given?
Not in Standard SAP ERP. You can block confirmation in 81 or 82.
Is also possible to block the creation of a sale order with PP strategy 81 (or similar) if no allowable capacity for planned order is given in the scheduled dates?
Not in standard SAP ERP. It is possible to generate a notification popup during the capacity check.
The functionalities you seek exist in APO using either CTP or MATP
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_scm70/helpdata/EN/25/b0c23ba6af1855e10000000a11402f/frameset.htm
Best Regards,
DB49 -
Issue in Deployment of SNP Planned orders
Hi Experts,
I am trying to deploy SNP Planned orders and I have made relevant settings in SNP2 i.e. ATP category in ATD Receipt.
When I run deployment, it creats deployment stock transfer (DEP: PReq / DEP:ConRl) based on available stock first. When I run deployment second time, then it creats deployment stock transfer( DEP: PReq / DEP:ConRl) for SNP Planned order with the same quantity of stock & not for entire quantity of SNP Planned order. Please refer below example to make it clear
Total Demand at destination location = 600
Stock at supply location = 100
After planning run, Purchase requsition of 600 is generated at destination location.
At supply location, SNP Planned order of 500 is generated considering 100 stock is available against PReqRel of 600.
When I run Deployment first time, it forms DEP: PReq / DEP:ConRl of 100 based on available quantity of 100.
After running Deployment second time it forms again DEP: PReq / DEP:ConRl of 100 and it continues to create deployment stock transfer till it completes the quantity of SNP planned order.
So all together it creates 6 deployment stock transfers instead of forming one deployment stock transfer (stock+ SNP Planned order).
There is no lot size setting for product master.
Can anyone suggest whether I need to do some settings to get one deployment order instead of 6.
Thanks & Regards,
Chetan
Edited by: Chetan Patil on Nov 10, 2010 4:45 PMHi Chetan,
It looks the SNP planned order is not being considered in the receipts quantities to be available for deploying against requirements.
Please check SNP order ATP type( it is normally EE) is included in the appropriate Categroy group
IMG >> APO > Supply Chain Planning > SNP > Basic Settings > Maintain Category Groups
Example : ATD Receipts: ATR
Typical values : AI, AJ, BF, CC,EE,EF, EI
Secondly, in the transaction /SAPAPO/MSDP_ADMIN, in the Key Figure detailed tab, ATD Receipts should have assigned the Category Group(say ATR).
Regards
Datta -
Factors influencing creation of a planned order
Hi,
What are the factors that lead to creation of a planned order during a Heuristic run?
When does a system decides to create a planned order? at what stock level? and how is the planned order qty. decided?
I have a material in a location that has planned orders generated.
I am trying to understand why the system created this order?
There is no safety stock, safety days supply or target days supply or rounding profile defined in Product master in Lot size tab.
Lot sizing procedure is by period (Days) - number of periods = 1
Lot size strategy blank
When I look at the product view,
the requirements pileup with category SNP:DepDmd and after some days, a planned order is generated for some qty.
I am trying to understand when the system determines to create a planned orders? What is the upper limit of the demand when the system generates a Planned order?
In the system, some times the planned order is generated when the stock is at 2,484.567 PCs some times 13.645 PCs.Planned Order creation is based on a MRP calculations (net requirements planning) and ofcourse APO takes into account various factors such as min or max lotsizes, time-phasing requirements, calendars or safety stock requirements etc.
Keeping aside the safety stock complexity in your situation, some of the reasons why a planned order could be created even with lots of stock in hand could be:
1. Check projected stock on hand may be going down under 0 if the planned order were not created on time
2. There would be a window of time for planned order creation due to production and other calendars that if lost would force projected stock in hand below 0
3. the stock in hand is blocked stock not useful for planning
4. Issues with SNP planning book configuration where key figures are not mapped correctly to ATP categories. Makes sense to double check in Product View
5. Due to min lot size being high, it might appear that system is over planning production. -
Deletion and creation of SNP Planned order
Hi,
I need to delete the SNP Planned order i.e ATP category of type 'EE' and I have to create the orders of ATP category EE through programetically. Please let me know if any BAPI's or Function modules are existed for the same.
Appriciate your help.
Regards,
RatnaHi Ratna.
To delete orders in SNP use transaction:
/SAPAPO/RLCDEL
BAPI to create planned orders:
BAPI_MOSRVAPS_SAVEMULTI3
There is also a BAPI to delete planned orders if this is more suitable.
BAPI_MOSRVAPS_DELEMULTI
Hope this helps, M -
Purchase Requisition & Planned Order link to sales order
Dear Gurus,
please help me to find the link between
- sales order item
and
- ( purchase requisition & Planned orders for semi-finished )
that created from running the MRP.
dispite we can see all these data in one screen
in TCode (MD4C) or (MD09)
thnak you .
Edited by: Alvaro Tejada Galindo on Feb 5, 2008 10:50 AMHi,
For third party order, either you can create the material master with item category group as BANS, so the system will automatically pick TAS in the sales order for the material or you can change the item category manually to TAS in the order.
This will trigger a PR, based on the PR a PO will be generated.
Defining Item Category Group
IMG ® Sales and Distribution ® Sales ® Sales Documents ® Sales Document Item ® Define Item category groups
Defining Item CategorySales and Distribution ® Sales ® Sales Documents ® Sales Document Item ® Define Item Categories
Item category TAS
Description 3rd party with SN CM
Item type Blank
Completion rule Blank
Special stock Blank
Relevant for billing B
Billing plan type Blank
Billing block Blank
Pricing X
Statistical value Blank
Revenue recognition Blank
Delimit. start date Blank
Business data item X
Sched. line allowed X
Item relev. for delivery Blank
Returns Blank
Weight/Vol.- relevant X
Credit active X
Determine cost X
Aut. batch determ. Blank
Rounding permitted Blank
Order qty = 1 Blank
Incomplete proced. 28
PartnerDetermProced T
TextDetermProcedure 01
Item cat. status group 1
Screen seq. group N
Status profile Blank
Create PO autom. Blank
Config. strategy Blank
Mat. variant action Blank
ATP material variant Blank
Structure scope Blank
Application Blank
Value contract material Blank
Contract release ctrl Blank
Repair procedure Blank
Billing form Blank
DIP profile Blank
Assigning Item Category
IMG Sales and Distribution Sales Sales Documents Sales Document Item Assign Item categories
Creating Material
MM01
1. On the screen Create Material (Initial Screen) enter the material number if External.
2. Choose Select View(s). (Basic View 1&2, Sales Views, Purchasing views and accounting views).
3. Enter the relevant data and save the material. Use material group BANS in the item material group field.
Creating SD Pricing Conditions for material
VK11
Creating Vendor Master
XK01
Regards -
Error in Conversion of Planned Orders to AFS production Orders
Dear Mam/Sir,
We are working in AFS Scenario.There are following observations during
AFS BOM/Planned order conversion/Material availabilty as follows:
1) When Item category 'T'(Text Item) is used ,with 'witout fixed qty. indicator'in AFS BOM,then during the MRP Run BOM gets exploded & dependent requirements are created for AFS /non-AFS Components. But, when Bill of Material Tab is accessesd in the Planned Order system throws error'REQUIRED PARAMETER MISSING WHEN CALLIN UP MODULE MARC_SINGLE_READ'.When this planned order is converted to Production order, Order reservation is created only for NON-AFS(std. component).
2) When a Planned order(with all BOM components item category 'L') is converted ,then system gives error in material availability check : Message no.AG022'An error occurred during Remote Function call on the ATP Server'.
3) When for a AFS material BOM components with item category'L' is used an order is created.during material availabilty check system shows missing part. The moment a 'text' item is added in BOM the for the same order system commits all components.Though components are missing.
Kindly advise.
regards,
StutiHi,
Good to know that your problem is resolved.
But the error you mentioned appears may be because of configuration problems.
You should check what is account assignment category mentioned in the corresponding requirement class for the strategy group you have used in the materials master.
Also you should check the settlement profile that you have used for your order types.
The account assignment category and settlement profile maintained, must be set properly so that allowed transactions are executed.
Also, there is problem with the message itself which appears for many reasons. More particularly when you are in MTO / ETO scenario or using WBS to create orders.This make it difficult to check the correct cause of the problem!!
Pavan -
Missing part for planned order-reg
Hi,
I want to see missing parts list against planned orders. I checked through MDVP but it shows all components as missing parts eventhough stock is available.
Is there any way to see this.
Regards
KarthikDear Karthikeyan,
In general Availability check is done at production order level and rarely in REM scenario's this check is
carried out at planned order level.
Because planned order's are a proposal,which may/may not be converted into a production order.
At planned order level you carry out an ATP check and its based on the checking group,checking
rule,and the scope of check.
So check the config settings in OPJJ particularly for the scope of check.
Here the check box -->check without RLT plays a vital role.
once after carrying out ATP,the system shows the committed quantity,say if the order is for 100 and
suppose if the raw materials are available only for making 20 means then after making ATP check in the
planned order header you can see an additonal field called commited quantity below the order quantity.
Check in MD12 for an individual planned order and it works based on the availability check value
assigned in the material master.
Regards
Mangalraj.S -
Hi, we have SAP Retail and we have installed a plant which manufacture some products. At this point we have configured all the production process with recipes and all the stuff related however we have experienced some troubles. We have discovered that if we create materials with MM01/MM02 we could not modify them with MM42, we have also discovered that the materials saved with MM01 cannot be replenished using WRP1. Our produced articles are FERT, ROH and HALB and what we plan to do is to run the MRP with WRP1 and generate planned orders that will be converted in production orders.
We run the WRP1 but SAP is generating us purchase requisitions but we would like this transaction to produce planned orders. Or if its posible, transform this purchase requisition in production order, which as I read it doesn't seem posible. I tried to generate a PO document with this purchase requisition and it generates a Framework purchase order (FO) and I don't know what that is.
The overall strategy is to configure with MM41/MM42 the supply source of the stores as 'Stock transfer' (2) and set procurement type 'F' so WRP1 generates purchase requisitions that eventually will be transformed as stock transfer orders which the vendor/supplier is going to be our distribution center. The DC is the place we are mounting the in-house production.
Our supplying plant has procurement type 'X' or 'E' but with this one we want WRP1 to generate planned or production orders with the replenishment requirement that includes all the requirements from the stores, so when we have all the production we could supply articles for the stores.
Is this the right approach? What should we do in this situation?
Thanks in advance
PS. We do not plan to use the MD01, MD03 or MDBT for MRP.Assign checking group in material master
Define checking rule
Define scope of check.Scope of check is to include what type of stock/Receipts/Reqmts are to be considered during ATP
Define checking control(Here you check the availability either at order creation or Release for plant/order type)
Based on the above settings when ATP is carried out,Missing parts list is determined for the order.
For planned orders additionally we can have the check against planned independent requirements. Here system only checks the dependent requirement quantities against the open planned independent requirements created for the components.Therefore, neither the ATP quantity nor the receipts or stocks are included in this availability check
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