Capturing at 24p

This may be a dumb question but could someone tell me how exactly to set FCP to capture at 24p? thanks alot

24P?
Easy Setup...DV/NTSC...29.97fps.
Your standard capture for DV.
24PA? Capture with advance pulldown removal.
Shane

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Capturing 1080p 24p from p2

I have received a drive with footage that was shot on the Panasonic HVX200 with P2 cards. After speaking with the DP, the format of the footage is DVCPro HD 1080p 24p (not 24pa). After performing the Log and Transfer, when I look at the clip I see 3 progressive frames, then 1 interlaced frame (repeats).
Page 66 of the manual for working with FCP & HD video indicates
To remove standard 3:2 (2:3:2:3) pulldown from 1080p24 footage, you need to
capture the footage as 1080i60 (29.97 fps) and then use Cinema Tools to remove
the pulldown.
Page 100 indicates:
The Import Panasonic P2 window cannot remove standard 3:2 pulldown.
To convert footage with 3:2 pulldown, you can ingest the media at 29.97 fps and
then use Cinema Tools to remove the pulldown.
Page 103 indicates:
Use Remove Advanced Pulldown command in Final Cut Pro or Cinema Tools after capture or ingest.
I am familiar with Cinema Tools, and have performed the conform process before with footage from the HVX100 in Standard Definition with no problem. However, when I attempted to remove the pulldown in cinema tools, the footage appears unaffected even though the frame rate is now 23.98.
I read in another manual "Workflow for Final Cut Pro and the Panasonic AG-HVX200"
that 1080p 24 is Not supported at this time.
Has anyone had success capturing 1080p 24p from a p2 card and then removing the pulldown to get 23.98 with progressive frames?

Just to make sure, since you mentioned advanced pulldown. You should be removing regular pulldown, not advanced pulldown. Also, conform is for files that are already progressive. What you want is reverse telecine. Try doing a batch reverse telecine on a few clips. I've had problems in the distant past doing it on single clips because I wasn't starting with an A frame.

How to capture HDV 24P footage without pull down

I´ve got some imagens with HVR-V1U in a HDV 24p mode thinking to transfer to film. Now I´d like to uploud the images in the same mode. In Premiere there is only HDV 30p and the option 24p only works for dv format. So, in the HDV 30p I receive the file in a Adobe with 6 more frames per second and it doesn´t work for cinema. Is there any way to edit a project in Premire in HDV 24p mode, and in this case how to get the file from the camera.
thanks.

Hi(Bonjour)!
Final Cut Express doesn't support HDV natively. It uses Apple Intermediate Codec upon capturing process to convert the HDV format.
Even if you can download your HDV from your PC to your Mac, you haven't the HDV native quicktime component to open the material for conversion to AIC purpose.
Final Cut Pro allows to works with native HDV.
So why don't you use more tapes and keep archived source material. Mini DV are pretty cheap these days.
Michel Boissonneault

Best DV deck for capturing Panasonic 24p footage

Hi everyone,
I'm working with 24p footage from Panasonic DVX-100A and HVX-200 cameras. I've always found the tapes tricky to capture with Advanced Pulldown Removal, and now I'm unhappy with my Sony DSR-11 VTR.
I'm finding that some equipment plays nicer with 24p footage than others.
Some of my editing colleagues have suggested that I should use Panasonic equipment - and they do have an equivalent low-end DV deck, the AG-DV2500.
Any suggestions from the field? My budget does not permit buying a full-blown studio DVCam machine, unfortunately.
Joe

I put this question to Larry Jordan, of newsletter fame, and he feels that I'll be better off with a Panasonic VTR - so I'm gonna give that a try.

Capturing DVCPro50 24P Footage

If anyone could help, I would appreciate it. I am trying to capture Anamorphic DVCPro50 footage shot at 24 fps (Panasonic DVCPRO50 Deck). I initially captured the footage with the following captured the footage DV50 48KHz Anamorphic. The footage looks great on the timeline (DV50 48KHz Anamorphic), but it is sped-up. I made a new timeline (DV%) 48kHz - 23.98 Anamorphic)and the footage moves at the correct speed, but I have to render the footage. Is there any capture setting that coincides with this timeline setting? Or is the deck playing the footage at the wrong speed? Where have I gone wrong?
Please advise.
Thank you.
Message was edited by: Brian Hunt1

Did you shoot 24p or 24pA?
At either rate, you captured as 29.97 with that preset. Which is why you must render it on a 23.98 timeline.
I'm not sure why it's speeding up the footage, are you positive that is happening?
If you shot 24pA and want to work on a 23.98 sequence, recapture using the DVCPro50 Anamorphic Advanced Pulldown Removal preset.
If you shot 24p, work on your 29.97 timeline with the footage you have already captured, and make sure it is really speeding up.

Capturing at 24p from XL2

Just started using an XL2 and curious how to capture footage that was shot at 24p to maintain the "film" look for the end result.
Thanks.

Capture and work with the footage at 29.97 fps. The FILM LOOK was already achieved in camera with the 24p setting.
Shane

Capturing DVCam 24p

I shot 16:9 DVcam footage on a V1u at 24p. What setting should I use to capture and edit this?
I tried "DV NSTC Anamorphic" and it looks petty bad (horizontal aliasing), and frame rate was the usual 29.97.
Thanks for your help! - Andrew

It's HDV, not dvcam, yes?
edit --
oops... just saw it can do dvcam too...
However...
The sony brand of 24p means 60i with 2.3 pulldown cadence.
So - capture 1080i at 29.97 fps.
CaptM
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Capturing Uncompressed 24p from an XL2?

Hello I have an XL2 that I shot two reels of 24p 16x9 footage. I was having troubles capturing the footage and then found the posts in here for using the basic DV NTSC with advanced pulldown. But that is a 15:1 compression ratio is it not? If so is there a way to capture uncompressed? Thank you

No...that is a simple file transfer. The footage captured is the EXACT same resolution as is what is recorded onto your tape.
That compression is 5:1. But that 5:1 compression happens on the tape.
SO if you capture DV/NTSC with advanced pulldown removal, you are getting the best quality you are going to get.
Shane

Capture settings for Canon XL2 shot in: 16:9 24p 2:3:3:2

I just boght the XL2 and FCP, and need to capture a four hour interview I shot today in 16:9 24p 2:3:3:2. I just don't know how to set up the capture settings correctly.
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Well, 2:3:#:2 pulldown refers to the way your camera flags the frames while they're recorded, in other words there's not real 24P recording while using tape, because video runs @ 29.97fps ,(what the camera does is to tell to your editing machine that it has to spread the 1st frame over the two first fields the second frame over the next three fields the third frame again over three fields and so on, from there it why it's call 2:3:3:2 pulldown) so in fact to capture true 24P for editing you have to remove the pulldown and remember,if you later are going to edit to tape you'll have to re-apply the pulldown so it prints well to a 29.97 device.
Hope I was clear enough

Capturing and editing 24p from panasonic dvx100a

hi all,
forgive me if this post seems thoroughly redundant...but after several hours of searching the web i am utterly confused. I need help!
here's where I'm at:
shot a project with a dvx100a for the first time. Shot everything at 24p Standard (aka F5 mode on the camera).
am editing in FCP 4.5 and the
final destination for the project is the web..but might need to make dvd's for the client along the way.
also want to incorporate a few Super 8mm shots that are already transfered to MiniDV into the edit as well.
my main question(s) is this:
1. What setting do I capture my 24p footage at?
normal dv ntsc? dv ntsc advanced 2:3:3:2 pulldown removal? dv ntsc anamorphic? what about cinema tools reverse telecine or 3:2 pulldown removal? i'm confused by all the conflicting advice i've read...
2. What setting do i create my sequence at for editing?
dv ntsc normal? dv ntsc 23.97? dv ntsc anamorphic? again confused here by conflicting info on the web...
3. What does the cinema tools reverse telecine do/achieve?
4. What's the optimal output settings/process for the web (quicktime movie) to keep it looking like it does when i watch the raw footage back in camera?
any and all advice, tips and guidance is GREATLY appreciated. i need to get started on this project and can't figure out what is the best settings/means to get going with.

one quick answer I can give you is all your questions regarding anamorphic settings. The only time you use the anamorphic settings is when you shoot your footage using the anamorphic option in your camera or use an anamorphic lens. How can you tell after the fact? Well, look in your capture window with the regular settings. Do people look stretched top ways, look taller and skinnier than normal? If you answered yes, then you need the anamorphic (or 16:9) settings. Once you switch this, you will immediately see the proper conversion in you're capture window (everyone will look normal again and you will be capturing a 16:9 image).
As for the 24p, 3:2 pulldown stuff, I simply cannot answer as that is still all foreign to me.
You might want to also inquire as to weather the camera shoots true 24p (progressive) or if it is interlaced footage.
hope this helps a little bit.

Capture problems to 24p

Hi...
A friend of mine told me he got some problems with Final Cut Pro, trying to
capture in 24p from his JVC GYHD-100U camera to the software.
I would like to know whether a special codec is necessary, or that might be
done using CINEMA TOOL.

intente este Web site
http://www.lumierehd.com/

Captured clips are playing back at least TWICE as fast

Hey all- I am capturing HD footage from a JVC Pro HD camera - footage shot at 24P. Everything seems fine with the capture (except for the fact that there is no device control - only capture now), but when I play back the captured clips I hear the audio playing at normal speed but the video is playing back at leat at twice the speed - all actors are in FAST motion. I hear the crew and director speaking, getting ready to shoot as I watch the scene start and speed through and end right as the clip ends.
Any ideas? Is it a setting on the OUTPUT for the camera?
Thanks for any help.
Cayce

Neither Final Cut Express nor Final Cut Pro support
720p24 material. You need a product like HDVxDV to
bring it in.
Tom-
Thanks for getting back to me last night. You seem to be a master in these parts. I am new here. I am really a director and writer but through my production company I have done a number of things in FCP over the years, always without any problems. That is until the introduction of HD and 24p at which time I sort of started saying to our amazing editor "whatver you say" and clouding over with confusion. After I got your message I went and got FCP 5 from the Apple store in an attempt to keep my friend, whose short we were trying to edit, from crying. Once installed and running we had the same issue as we had in FCE HD - the video - in terms of quality - was captured perfectly, but the clips would play back at almost twice the speed that they should have. I tried virtually every easy set-up that pertained to HD and nothing worked. On a few of them I could get an actual Log and Capture window to come up but when I went to play the material via device control there was no image, althoug I could see TC running. A friend suggested that you have to take the captured HD 24p clip and bring it into the timeline and render it for it to work. Is that true? I tried it to no avail. So, he shot on JVC GY-HD 100 at 24p. I now have FCP 5 HD and am considering buying LUMIERE software that purports to streamline this very issue. Any thoughts or suggestions you may have for me would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks so much,
M Cayce Lindner

Still Frames in 24p

I did a big shoot in 24p (advanced on a dvx-100), captured at 24p, and dropped in a 24p timeline. BUT the clip itself in the viewer plays at 30, and in the timeline, it plays at 24 but still has duplicate frames.
Am I missing something? How should I fix this?

Hi Benjamin,
Did you capture DV NTSC 24p or DV NTSC 24p with advanced pulldown removal?
Have a look at the following article:
http://www.kenstone.net/fcphomepage/24p_in_FCPnattress.html
It contains a lot of valueable information on the topic and will most likely answer your question.
Cheers,
Uwe

24p DVX footage Lower Even field dominance interlacing?

I've captured DVX 24p (not 24pA) footage. When I check Item properties for a clip FCP shows Lower (Even) under Field Dominance? Shouldn't it be Progressive or is it because 24p was captured using a 29.97 timeline in FCP as opposed to 24pA.
I am seeing horizontal lines during motion when played back on DVD? Is that interlacing? Where did I go wrong.

Look, you really need to wrap your head around 24p, 30p, 24pA and 30i.
Interlace is not an ugly issue. It is a benefit. Interlacing normal on broadcast television. Your TV scans down and back up for each frame... alternating lines. When you shoot 24p on the DVX it puts it to tape where for every 3 frames of progressive it combines FOUR frames to give you TWO additional combined (interlaced) frames. So.. there are 6 sets of 5 frames per 1 second giving you 30 frames per second. If you take those 3 progressive frames by themselves 3x6 is 24 frames per second.
You OBVIOUSLY want to final out to 29.97 or 30 fps so you'll need those extra 2x6 frames to get you to 30!! If you wanted to final out to 29.97 AND you wanted progressive frames for EVERY frame you should have shot 30p mode.
Now... when are they ugly? When you are standing still on a frame. When are they unnecessary? When you plan to show them on a computer or progressive monitor. Remember, even when shooting progressive and playing it on a TV you will STILL have the TV doing interlaced scans... the only difference is the down scan is taken from the same point in time as the up scan.
Plus... you don't capture TO a sequence... you capture the video and edit it IN a sequence. You can still capture the footage in 24p at 29.97 and remove those 2x6 extra frames and edit in a 23.98 sequence.
Do some reading. It will only help.
CaptM

FCP3 & 24p pulldown

Hi all,
I am currently working on an old version of Final Cut Pro (3)... yea I know it's old. (FCP 5 Studio is in the mail).
I want to capture some 24p footage. Does FCP3 have a 24p pulldown, or do I need to wait for my FCP5 to get here?
Thanks in advance.
Toven Stith

Not really sure, but you might check the following links.
http://www.lafcpug.org/panasonic_24p.html
http://www.kenstone.net/fcphomepage/24p_in_FCPnattress.html
http://dvinfo.net/conf/archive/index.php/t-8028.html
http://forums.appleinsider.com/archive/index.php/t-5497.html
K

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