Complex Product Costing Scenario- Separate overhead rates to same material

Hello- I have a strangely complex scenario at my current client.
They wish to apply different overhead rates to the same raw material (one material number in SAP) which is a part of two different BOMs to the same Semi-Finished product (one material number in SAP). This semi-finished product needs to be costed 2 different ways with 2 different BOMs, routings and overhead rates and then i need to use mixed costing to come up with a blended rolled-up cost to update in the material master of the semi-finished product. I am able to get past all challenges but the only open item is to be able to apply different overhead rates to the same material.
Limitations:
1- We have to use Standard price, not moving average.
2- Split valuation idea thrown out the window.
3- Using 2 different material numbers for the raw materials thrown out of the window.
4- Business area idea thrown out of the window.
basically, coming back to the original issue at hand, the challenge is to be able to apply different overhead rates to one material number in SAP.

Hi
There are available,, But you have thrown them out of the window already
I believe you need to rampup your overhead absorption mechanism... if ovh is dependant on the component, then it should remain fixed/.. however, if it is getting changed bsaed on the parent material, then driver is not the component, but the Parent material
hence, your overhead should be based on Parent material... Assign an overhead group to the Parent material say, 100 and 110 to the 2 Parent materials.... Now you maintain separate % of overhead per overhead group.... BASE would be the raw material consumption cost element
@ Subodh: Do you think above suggestion will work?? I think exit need not be used if I have understood his requirement clear
br, Ajay M

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