Condition Type Groups - Rebates
Plz make me understand d use of the "Condition Type Groups" with example. The F1 help n stuff on SDN has already been checked, some1 who has worked on rebates will b able 2 xplain better d xact need of "condition type groups" e.g sometimes v have only 1 condition type assgined 2 it bt diff tables of that condition type n sometimes just 1 table of 1 condition type then wat's d need of it?
An answer with a small scenario would b of gr8 help.
regards
Hi,
i think u r working on rebtes,
Condtype grup is used to group the condtypes together to come in an agreement for selection.
for example:
you r working material rebate
for this condtype is BO02, for this condtype you want to use 3 key combination (condtables/accesses in access sequence). how you club these cond accesses to ur agreement type. unless u group them. here u group them when assign condtable 1,2,3, to BO02 in this screen.
observe this example:
condtypegrup counter condtype table
xyz 1 BO02 1 customer/material
xyz 2 BO02 2 region/material
xyz 3 BO02 3 countrly/material
xyz 1 BO03 1 customer/material
xyz 2 BO03 2 region/material
xyz 3 BO03 3 countrly/material
now u assign this condtypegroup to agreemtn type for say XXXX,
finally u create agreement type in BO01 t.code
at the time of agreemtn creation u get all the above combination for selection in a popup. that 6 options in two condtypes in on conditiontypegroup.
hope u understand
regards,
sadanandam kasarla
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Hello All
I am in the process of configuring the rebate processing in our system...this is my first experience...we are on ECC7.0...I am follwing the Rebate Processing configuration guide but I have a few questions...
My requirement is the following
Order volume fully paid.... the following will apply
<$500,000 credit percentage is 3%
>500,000 and < credit percentage is 3.75
etc....
In the condition type configuration under control data I am confused of the calculation type to use and the condition category as well...I am using condition type Material Rebate, but have also added all the condition types related to Rebate...just in case.
There will be no manual payments or partial settlements. The rebate is due at end of year of all fully paid items.
If there is shipments that are due but will not be during the annual term and it exceeds the lets say 1,000,000 since he credit percentage would be 6% in this case....after the review of the rebate agreement then the discount for the following year will be set at the appropriate percentage and will begin at $1.
For example if the total sales during this term are 1.2 million the the credit percentage for the following year would be 6% for all the sales the following year beginning at $1...sales for the annual term of 1.2 million would equate to a rebate of 72,000 (6%).
Also, all material that is bought the customer receives a 3% discount on top of the above.
Will I need to also include condtion type groups???
Your help is GREATLY appreciated!!!Hi Eric and thanks for your reply ....
If the Rebate is for a certain customer and they are having multiple materials for the rebate and can have channel partners that will also be a ship to party and rebate applies....I am thinking I need to use the 0002 condition type? Please confirm.
That is the one I have chosen so far....I do not see the rebate condtion type being being pulled through the sales order on the condition tab...it wants to keep pulling in the pricing condtion table for that rebate material....any advice as to what I may have missed....I did follow the config guide...as stated before this is my first experience wit hrebates...
I can understand the invoice showing the accruals but how would I do the scale to know if the customer reaches a certain amount their rebate percentages would be different based on the paid invoice sales...
up to 500,000 paid would be A 3 percent discount
Over 500,000 would be a 3.75 percent discount
This is also on top of the standard 3 percent discount they are given on the material as a customer discount.
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Hi,
Please help me with the condition types in RFQ rebate agreement and their descriptions.
Thanks in Advance
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Thanks for your answer.
When I tried to create a new condition record with different validity date, the system gave me a message "VK 104, the condition is being processed in current session". and then removed the record from the screen. It's because of the same condition key exists.
I think it's related to the difference on condition tables. When I checked a condition table for PR00, the attribute was "with validity period" but a rebate condition table had none in attribute.
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Add Non-rebate Condition Types to Rebate Credit Memo
Hi guys,
I have a requirement as follows. The client wants to make some deductions from their customers rebate settlement credit memo as follows:
Customer's sales volume = 52,000,000.00
Rebate value due is 5% = 2,600,000.00
DEDUCTIONS
10% Withholding tax due on Rebate value = 260,000.00
Management fee of 0.75% of turnover = 390,000
5% Vat on Management Fees = 19,500.00
* Payable to the Customer = 1,930,500.00 (This is the value to be credited to the customer's account).
I don't have a problem with the withholding tax. However, for the other deductions the issues I have are as follows:
1. Condition types that are not rebates or taxes do not show on the the rebate credit memo B1. The analysis says that they have been manually removed. How do I get it to show?
2. Output tax (MWST) is always added in the invoice, however in this case the customer wants the output tax to be deducted. Can this be done?
Thanks for your help
Regards,
OlufisayoHello Swati,
the suggestion of JP is correct.
I explain it better.
- the document type of FI document created from SD depends on the customizing of billing type field TVFK-BLART. If it is blank, then by default is 'RV'.
- if the number range assigned to the account document type is External, then the FI document gets the same number of the SD invoice.
- transaction VBOF creates FI document referred to SD invoice. If it has external number range, and an FI document already exist with same number (created when SD invoice has been released to accounting), then the errof F5152 occurs.
SOLUTION:
in the selection screen of VBOF there is the field FI-Doc-type. Here you should specify the FI document type that should be created by execution of VBOF, and of course it must have number range internal.
Please try this.
Best regards,
Ivano. -
Bringing the nor rebate condition type in rebate credit memo request.
Dear Gurus,
Is it possible, to bring the discount condition type say Zxxx(which is not a rebate relevant)
in the rebate credit memo request.
In the credit memo request, while doing price analysis I can see the condition type Zxxx with the message condition record found and manually removed.
For the condition type I do not check the Delete Indicator.
I don't know why it is happening..
Kindly suggest me with your valuable thoughts.
I need to bring the non-rebate relevant condition types in the rebate credit memo reqquest.
Thanks & Regards,
Venkatesh.S.P.Hi Gurus.
Follow my business scenarie:
This is GAS & OIL company, in this business, they work with price including taxes, we are now implemented a rebate solution, but the accrual values follow the same business rule, including tax.
At the moment to create a credit memo request for rappel, the system trasfer only tha rappel condition type with the final settlement value and calculate the tax condition type..
In the credit memo pricing procedure, I need to split the net value by formula.
this is my pricing procedure configuration:
level Cnd Ty Level Subto Form
15 0 BO02 Price
600 0 Sales Total B I
710 0 MWIG tax 600 600 G
730 0 NTPS Net Value 988
810 0 Net Value 730 730 B 4
820 0 tax 710 710 B
840 0 T O T A L 810 830 B A
Formula 988
FORM FRM_KONDI_WERT_988.
XKWERT = XWORKI - XWORKG .
XWORKG = 0.
PERFORM XKOMV_KBETR_FROM_KWERT USING XKWERT.
ENDFORM.
This is my result in the rebate credi memo:
Header Net Value 100 usd
cnd ty descrip Value curre quan um cond value
BO02 Rappel 100 USD 1 UN 100-
MWIG tax 16,000 % 16-
there are our expected result:
Header Net Value 84 usd
cnd ty descrip Value curre quan um cond value
BO02 Rappel 100 USD 1 UN 100-
Total Rappel 100 USD 1 UN 100-
MWIG tax 16,000 % 16-
NTPS Net Value 84 USD 1 UN 84-
tax 16 USD 1 UN 16-
T O T A L 100 USD 1 UN 100-
The problem is , the system never execute the formula 988
There are a possibility to get this...a user exit, formula..that we can use..
Please. any information we are appreciate.
regards -
Rebates-while entering condition type b002
Hi..
While doing the rebate procissing i am getting an error " Sales volume for aggrement is not current " Plz help me in solving this .Hi Srinivas
Chk this
Rebate Agreement Processing:
Step-1: Img/sd/bf/rebate agreements/define agreement types
Eg: 0002-Material Rebate
Step-2: Define Condition type group
Eg: 0002- --
Step-3: Assign Condition type to condition type group
Step-4: Assign condition type group to rebate agreements.
Step-4: Activate Rebates in,
-Billing documents (B1,B2,R3,R4,F2,G2,L2)
-Sales Organization
-Customer master sales area data-billing tab-rebate field
Step-5: Create Rebate agreement condition records,Tcode-VBO1
Enter agreement type,(Material Rebate)
Select Conditions
Enter Rate-1000/-
Accruals-50/-
Click on Settlements for Material & Save
Message: Material Rebate ZZ has been created.
Step-6: Create sales order-VA01
-VL01N
-VF01
Step-7: Got VBO2-Change rebate agreements condition record,
Enter agreement typeZZ
Change the agreement status to B
Select Sales Volume ,select the line item ,press F3,
(NOTE: If you cant see the accruals amount,
Got SE38,
Enter prog: SDBONT06,(Update the billing documents program)
Enter agreement no: ZZ
Log,
Remove the mark in the field of error
Select , statement of sums and execute
Press F3 & generate.
( Now go VBO2, check the accruals amount)
Goto Rebate Payment / Final settlement/Using payment scree-F6
Save the agreement type.
Message: Credit memo request(R4) automatically created.
Step-8: Goto VBO2- check the Agreement status
You ll observe as C
Step-9: Goto VA02- enter credit memo request,
Remove the billing block
Save
Step-10:Create Billing (VF01)
Enter Credit memo req
Save
Observe the rebate amount
By goto-item- conditions
Step-11:Goto VBO2-
Enter Rebate Agreement type-ZZ,
Agreement status Shown as D
Settings:
Pricing procedure
Frm Subto Acctkey Accruals
59 0 Total discount
60 0 Rebate basis 7
61 0 Kf00 4 ERF
62 0 Bo02 Material rebate 60 ERB ERU
Account determination: VKOA
Rebate account key-ERB (883000)
Accruals - ERU
Create sales revenue account(FS00)-12345 by copying from 800000 &assign this account against Accountkey ERU
V-KOFI-INT-TATA-01-03-ERB-800000- ___
V-KOFI-INT-TATA-01-03-ERU-12345 -12345
Reg
Annie -
Hi All,
I have encounter a PO condition type issue, hope to get someone to enlighten me.
I have create both cuztomize condition type ZOT2 AND ZOT3.
With config in Control data 1
Cond. Class - A Discount or Surcharge
Calculat. type - B Fixed Amount
Cond. category - B Delivery cost
Group Condition
Select for Group cond. & RoundDiffComp
GrpCond.routine - 1 Overall Document
ZOT2 in header condition should be divided into item via value.
ZOT3 in header condition should be divided into item via quantity.
Both condition type havemanually enter with value 300
In the test PO I have created 3 materials:-
Material Quantity Net Price Item Net
A 100 1,615.00 161,500.00
B 100 16.15 1,615.00
C 1000 16.15 16,150.00
In the Item view calculation for both condition type as stated below:-
ZOT2 - 270.27 : 2.70 : 27.03 (Ratios base on Value 100:1:10)
ZOT3 - 270.27 : 2.70 : 27.03 (Rations base on Quantity 1:1:10) the amount result should be 25: 25: 250 but the result I get from the system for condition type ZOT3 is the same as ZOT2.
Please advise how to reticfy the configuration. Thank you.Eugenia Foong Pui Mun wrote:
Hi Shiva,
>
> I have try to config with the info you have suggested, but it does not seem to get the expected result.
Hi Eugenia...
I tested scenario with values you have mentioned. It works perfect both ways. Pls follow this....
1. Pls avert the changes I had suggested in my prev reply for changing the condition types. (group condition active, round diff condition & group cond routine, keep them as they are)
2. While you enter value in header with condition type ZOT2. the value gets properly distribute by the ratio 100:1:10 and thats perfect......Now
3. While you enter the values for condition type ZOT3 in the header...Pls note that your Total Qty is 1200 and the total condition value is 300 this means per unit qty the value is 300/1200 =0.25...
Now while you enter the values for ZOT3 in the header, enter 300 in the Amount column and 1200 in the Per column, meaning that the total of 300 shoud be divided into 1200 units irrespective of quantities per Line Item
Now check the results and you will have the distribution ratio 1:1:100
NB:For ZOT3 (Qty base) to work the UoM for all the line items must be similar
Pls check and revert
Regards
Shiva
Edited by: Shivaspatil on Nov 24, 2011 12:42 PM -
SD Order Type for Rebate Management
Hello,
I have created Rebate Agreement. Status is coming as blank (Open).
I want to create a Sales Order to test the rebate.
How do I determine which Order Type to use for creating the Sales Document.
Thank you,
AshishFor doing a cycle on Rebate in SD, you need to run full end to end OTC (Order 2 Cash) cycle.
And to that you need to various configuration, which may include modification in pricing with addition of condition type for rebate bases, accrual relevant GL account, etc.
You can search SCN or SAP building block for rebate related configuration.
You will get a lot of information related to that.
Regards
JP
FYI
If you don't have requirement type 24 against condition type for rebate base in your pricing procedure.
The condition type for rebate will also display in sales order & it can be indicative to end-user who is creating a sales order. But actual accrual value for rebate is posted from billing doc.
Best practice is rebate bases should calculated in billing, as that will reflect in GL accounts and rebate agreement.
This thing purely based on client requirement.
As few people like to see a tentative value for rebate at the time of creation of sales order.
Edited by: Prakash Jyoti on Jan 5, 2012 9:57 PM -
Hi ,
I have created rebate condition type,access sequence and the rebate table where i use field "Material group 4" which was not in standard .So i added that field in the standard table by including ,And it works fine .I have done every step for making rebate config .
Ex.
Maintain subtotal 7 in pricing procedure .
Access Sequence 1(relevent for rebate).
Acc key :ERB,& ERU.
Condition type : condition class :C.
and upto billing its works fine .and the rebate condition type is appear in billing document only (assigning req.24) .
But the issue is when i realease the billing document to accounting ,the rebate condition type got vanish .But when i create the billing and have a look by VF02 this condition type shows with proper value .
I got puzzle . Am i missing something for config .....
Need urgent halp ...........
Thanks in Advance .......
Regards,
Abhijit....Hi ravi
The infostrucuture S136 is related to bonus buy extension.So if you activate it and if you extend the rebate date then you need to update the infostructure S136.But it will be in updating mode only.
But one thing to tell is there is no link to activate Bonus buy in your problem
So in OMO1 double click S469 change to synchronous updating.then your problem will be solved
If you are working at any server , then first of all check it in the sandbox server and then work ,so that it wont affect the development server
Regards
Srinath -
How to set required for group of condition type in the same condition class
Hello,
we have a group of condition type with the same condition class B, the last one have been set, and all of others will be inactive.
but we don't set any required for all the condition types in pricing control, so if user don't set any of them, the sales order or billing is still saved. that is a risk.How can i fix it? Thanks.
SophieHello,
incompletion log is not available in invoices.
You have different options:
- activate a validation in FI when the Billing document is released into accounting, so that te release into accounting is not allowed if the invoice amount is zero;
- define a subtotal in the pricing procedure as sum of the pricing conditions of your group, then develop a custom routine to be assigned in the formula "CalType" (field T683S-KOFRM) where an error should be raised if the amount of the subtotal is zero (use as an example formula 48);
Best regards,
Andrea -
IPC: Condition Types attached to material group
Hello all,
I am working in a ECC - IPC scenario and needed your help.
I implemented a IPC userexit(scale base formula) which corresponds to a condition type ZDCV which implements a discount for the products.
When this condition type is attached to a material (in tcode vk11), the corresponding discount rates are displayed in the webshop via IPC.
But the problem arises when we attach this condition type to a material group.
In the product catalog of the webshop, the IPC is able to determine discounts for individual materials but not for those materials contained in material group.
Your inputs will be very helpful.
Thanks and Regards
DeepikaI think you have to do some logic in that userexit... you have to get the whole quantity of material group and have to pass that value in the scale base formula..
Thanks and Regards
shanto aloro -
Rebate Condition Type--Statistical in nature, but does it post to G/L ?
Hello All,
I've a Rebate Condition type, which is anyway statistical and relevant for accruals too.
So, once I've the rebate condition types are part of the Pricing Procedure and if I create an invoice... does it post anything to any G/L account?
Regards,
Raghu.Dear Customer,
if a condition is statistical, then the condition have no influence to FI.
These conditions are not trasfered to FI.
These condtions are only relevant for CO or statistics.
I hope that the information is helpful.
regards
Claudia -
Shipment Cost: Group Condition Type calculated on a special weight...
Here is the scenario: A shipment (truck) combines multiple deliveries, grouped on a stage when same destination (happens often).
A condition per LB is to be calculated on the cumulated weight per destination (per stage) BUT not simply on the gross weight, but on the heavier of 2 special weights: the business here uses a special formula according to the packaging, and it gives 2 weights (stored in Z fields of LIKP), an actual weight and a cubic weight.
The purpose is to identify for each delivery the heavier weight and to use cumulated the weight across the deliveries to the same destination to calculate the per CWT cost.
This is my first issue: the condition type is defined at Delivery calculation base, Calculation Type Multi-dimensional, and as a group condition). How do I define to use the cumulated of each delivery heavier weight ? In the Scale for condition type view, I used the scale basis D Gross Weight (which is not right..), there is also a field for a Scale Base Value formula, I wondered if that is what I should use..
My 2d issue: once the cost is calculated, I have to re-distribute it on the deliveries as per the proportion of their heavier weight compared to the total weight used for the calculation Should that be an alternate Condition Base Value formula in the pricing procedure (where xkwert would be .the heavier weight .would that be then a new Z field to be filled in by the user exit determing the heavier value) ??
Thanks a lot, it is a tough one, I know...who is the best ever shipment cost pricing consultant ? !Hi Guys
Unfortunately I do not think that you will get an answer now. Either your question is not simple or we do not know.
So in the interest of keeping the Forum tidy and easier to surf through could you please close your thread and either try one of the other forums or try another post. I do not think that most people will bother to look this far back anymore.
Sorry I cannot help as I would if I could.
Regards
Frenchy. -
Duplicate condition types in processing rebates
Hi,
I have created two rebate agreements in the system right now.
Whenever i run a sales cycle the condition type BO01 is used twice instead of once which results in giving discount twice for the same order.
Is there any way to avoid duplication of condition types.
How to solve this issue, pl help..Hi
You have maintained two rebate arrangemnts here and sytem is determining accordingly.
Thats the reason you need to ensure the combination being used in the condition type.
If both the records are valid i am not seeing an issue here.
If your issue is same condition type. then you need to maintain different condition types for different combinations,.
For example: Key Combination -> Condition type
Customer/ Material - B001
Customer/ Sales area - B002
Maintain two condition types for both combinations instead of maintaining it is the same.
So they get determined accordigly.
Thanks & Regards
Kishore -
Dear Experts,
I have created a condition type for material rebate and the same has been assigned to condition type grp in turn condition type grp is assigned to rebatye agreement type....besides the same(cond type) is included in the pricing procedure.....the issue is even after maintaining the cond record the values are not flowing moreover when I see to the condition type details in the order level( I
deliberately made the rebate cond type to flow in sales order) few settings got changed like scale type,calculation type,..etc...how come the settings may change other than what I have maintained...I could see my own settings exist in V/06 for the rebate cond type.....what would be the reason?.....thanks in advance.......Hi,
1st see in condition detial,maintain
Processing priority - Automatic entry has priorit or No limitation
Second,in price procedure V/08, if you maintained any requirement in requirement coloumn in front of rebate condition then remove that.
Kapil
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