Cost center behind an org. unit

Hi,
how can I get the cost center assigned to an org. unit ?? I am not talking about relationship A011; this works only if the relationship is available in the object´s master data. The problem is when the cost center is inherited from the org. unit above or from the one above this one or from .....
Another problem is when the position is vacant; I cannot read IT 0001 for the employee.
Is there any function or BAPI for that ??
Thanks a lot.

Hi,
thanks both but it does not help. I´ll try to explain it other way. You create in CO a cost center and you create an org. unit in HR. You can then assign 1 or more org. units to the cost center. I am looking for that union. Relationship A011 is not much of a help.
In the org. structure, a lower-level org. unit inherits the cost center from the father or grandfather org. unit, if we did not assign it to a cost center.
I don´t want to read the higher-level org. unit for finding A011 or one level higher if A011 is not available or another higher level.

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Cost Center Inheritance from Org Unit

Good day all,
Can someone please advise regarding cost center inheritance from org units?
I understand the inheritance concept, however simple need to know if the CCenter is added to the org unit via A011 relationship, does the system physically create a A011 relationship on the position inhertiting the cost center from the org or does the system simply pick up the realtionship from the org unit relationsip for use in IT0001 field KOSTL (cost center)?
Thanks guys, have a lovely day!
Christy

Hi Christy,
As we know cost centre(K) is an unusual object in OM.Two type of objects internal whose master record are in database table beloging to sap erp hcm and eexternal object whose master data belong to other application areas.Cost centre is an external object that is used to represent origin of costs.Inheritance concept is on the basis of whoch cost centre are assigned in org plan.
directly related cost centre is called master cost centre and they are made via A011 cost centre assignment relationsip.they can be made at org unit,position or work centre and nornmally its org unit that common.Org unit at the top are asisgned the cost centre as a best practise so that all the org units below or reporting will inherit the same.
Similarly multiple cost centre assignments can also e made through 1018 infotype(cost centre distribution).Inheritance also applied to them aswell.
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OM - Multiple Cost Centres link with Org Unit/Position not to employee

Hello gurus,
In OM there can only be one relationship at a time between an organizational unit and cost centre (A011). For those areas where there is a requirement for the position to have control over more than one cost centre, there are multiple options.
Option 1 - If only one of the cost centres is used for employee cost incurrence, this should be the main cost centre, and the others controlled through authorizations.
Option 2 - If more than one cost centre is used for employee cost incurrence, a subordinate organizational unit is created into which those positions are placed. In this scenario, the subordinate organizational units would not have a chief, and the reporting structure would go up to the more senior organizational units.
Option 3 - Use Cost centre distribution infotype 1018 (A014)
My question: is there a standard way through which we can show multiple cost centres attached to a position/org unit such that cost incurred by employees goes to master cost centre attached to org unit or positon and other cost centres are just attached to position/orgunit (just to show the org unit/position is managing these other cost centres as well).
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To capture more than 1 cost center, you have to specify them in IT-1018 but employee's cost will be split based on this.
For data maintanance alone cost distribution is not possible (based on my knowledge).
May be equivalent custom infotype similar to 1018 @ Postiion / Org Unit level may work.
along with Master Cost center.

How to find cost centers for a org unit ( if kost center is inherited)

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We have a org structure
When a parent org unit is assigned a kost center then the parent also inherites the kost center
I need to find kost center for all the org unit in my organization
I cant see the inherited cost center neither in IT 1001 nor 1008 nor 1015 but i can see it in PPOME in the account assignment tab.
How can i find the inherited cost centers to all the org units.
i think i am clear with my requirement to all
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Raj

Use the report RHSTRU00 in tcode SE38
and give the follwoing values in selection screen
Plan version                    01 Current plan
Object type                     O   Organizational unit
Evaluation Path               A011       All relationships to A011 -> cost
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Change of Cost Center Assignment for Organization Unit in HR

Hi,
Recently my client is changing their cost center number from 6char to 5 char format. I have created customized mapping table to link between old cost center number and new ones.
Create new cost center referencing to old cost center is done too.
However, for each Personnel Number, i need to change the cost center assignment which link to org unit. I have done this too manually at t-code PPOM. How can I do this for mass change? I have a list of org unit number with me. Is there any standard program to do this or i should use LSMW ?
How do I make sure for each Personnel number, their cost center assignment will change to new 5 char format in the end as required?
I am new to HR module.
Thank you for your help.

Hi,
As Sikandar said, you will have to write an LSMW or BDC ( where in you can check and validate the input Cost centers) using PP01 or Po10.
Also I think if you use BDC or LSMW you will have to run the RHINTE30 report. Check the documentation on RHINTEXX reports to get better idea.
Cheers..
Ajay

Org Unit to Cost center relationship issue

Hi All,
When I assign a Cost center to an Org Unit, i dont have any issues and got created. But when I assign the same Cost center to a different Org Unit, it delimits the previous Org relationship and creates the new one.
I checked the Relationship A011 time constraint and it is 2 which is with gaps.
This is strange and should not work in this way.
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Cheers
Vijay

Thanks a lot guys.. I found the answer...
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Best praxis for determining a cost center for an HR org unit in PPM ?

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We have defined the HR Org structure directly in PPM backend. Later the intention is that an interface should transfer this data from HR.
The HR orgstructure defined works fine for the staffing process (with "resource manager via responsible organization").
We have however run into some problems with the MLC & costing part. The intention is to use manual MLC linking tasks/phases to PS WBS-elements (task based controlling).
If we leave the org unit field blank in the cProject project project definition we run into the message "No account assignment exists for the project defintion - no costing" and the systems rolls back from the assignment made.
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<u>We therefore need to be able to determine a cost center for the Org Unit assigned to be able to proceed. How is this then best done?</u>
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Thanks / Anders

Hi and thanks for the reply.
We will test with an ALE replicated structure so that the object ID becomes the same in the two systems as soon as possible.
Pending that we will try the BADI option. Here I am however not sure what it is we really expect the BADI to do. Which field should be populated with the cost center (the fields available are mainly project characteristics)?
I also eventually found some information regarding this in the PPM 4.0 help. I enclose info regarding this below.
a) http://help.sap.com/saphelp_ppm400/helpdata/en/index.htm
b) choose Collaboration projects>Accounting Integration>General Information about Accounting integration>Derivation of Organizational data.
As I read this the system derives this as follows in case of task-based or role-based costing with no resource assignment:
1) Look for the two BADIs mentioned to derive the cost center
2) If no result there it looks for an org unit in the cProject header (where I assume having the Org Unit with the same Object ID in backend and ERP enables this option)
3) If no result there the system looks for a "requesting cost center" in the account assignment object (WBS element or internal order)
Regards / Anders

Link Cost center with Org unit

Hi experts,
I have one question. I have create org unit for the past 2 month (May 2009). However I don't create relationship with cost center. After 2 month I decided to create cost center for the org unit. The date of relationship based on creation of org unit.
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What ever date you maintained in relation ship for create cost center the same date will get updated in IT0001. If you set Retro date ( In PA03) based on that system will go for retro calculations. In retro calculation only CC will update net amount remain same.
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Cost Center. Position or Org Unit

Hello Every One,
I am learning SAP HCM. Forgive me for this basic questions:
When we create an org structure, are we supposed to assign the cost center to a position or do we do it for an organizational unit? What are the advantages/dis advantages of doing this?
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Marian Roza

Hello Everyone,
Thanks for the replies. So when we assign the cost center to an org unit, does it imply that all costs for the positions assigned to the org unit would also be captured by the cost center. what is the standard business practice for deciding to go about it ?
Thanks
Marian
Edited by: marian roza on Jan 14, 2008 12:25 PM

Cost Center, Org.unit is wiped out

Hi All,
When i terminate any employee using PA30 or PA40 transaction then it wiped out cost center and Org.Unit. We need this details. Kindly let me know if you know the solution to keep the cost center and Org.unit when you terminate the employee using PA30 or PA40 transaction.
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-Suresh Revuru

Yes i verified the pa0001 infotype. After terminating the employee it is clearning the cost center, org.unit and Job for existing record and new record.
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-suresh

Cost center change makes the Org Assignment infotype go blank

Hi Experts.
Am trying to change the cost center of an org unit. What happens is, the Infotype 0001 records of all the employees in that Org Unit are delimited and go blank. Can you please suggest a solution for this. Org Re-assignment action helps, but this is a tedious task.
kindly help.
Regards,
Shweta Thakkar

I don't see any other solution . Anyway why u want to do org-reaasignmmet.
Yogesh

Cost center assignment to Position not updated in IT0001 Org Assignment

Hello,
I have assigned Cost centers to all Positions (A011) in IT1001 through PP01 from 01/01/2011.
Now when I see IT0001 in PA30, most of the employees have the updated IT0001 with cost center from 01/01/2011. But few employees have multiple IT0001 records past 01/01/2011.
e.g. there are 2 records for IT0001 for particular employee.
1. from 02/01/2011 - 12/31/9999
2. from 01/01/2011 - 01/31/2011
For these employees, cost center is not updated in IT0001 Org Assignment. I tried running RHINT00 and RHINT30 reports but didn't help.
Please guide, which report tp run to solve this issue.
Thanks in advance.
Madhu

Mr.Fun,
for these employee rerun the action with the same date.
and chek.
some of the table entries are not projected perfectly.
If you rerun the action it will fills that if not the check the cost center assignment to the position done perfectly r not.
it is advised to assign cost center to the Org.Unit. instead of no. of positions.
system automatically considers for all the positions in that org.unit.

Controlling area already used for org. unit problem

Hi people,
can you please help me with one problem, my customer is upgrading SAP HR from 4.6 to 6.0 and now we are testing QAS system.
When I create new or. unit in PPOME, I have Cost-centre inherited from the org.unit above, but when I want to put another Cost-centre it gives me the next error "Controlling area HR01 already used for organizational unit XXXXXXXX".
The same procedure worksin PRD system which is on version 4. 6. Could you please help me what is wrong because i am not able to change cost centre in the QAS system.
Thank you.
Romano
Edited by: Romano Cinotti on Oct 13, 2009 11:25 AM

Hi,
To which object u are going to change the cost center i.e, position, job, org.unit.
If you are changing the cost center to position, If it is not allowing to change the cost center then u have to check the parameters:
May be u already assigned cost center
May be u already assigned cost center to ur org, unit, which u assigned to ur position. If u already assigned diffrent cost center to ur org.unit, you may not change the cost center to ur position or job.
Regards
Devi.

How to delete Costcenter assignment with a particular org. unit.

Dear Experts,
Im having a simple doubt.Is it sufficient to delete particular cost center through po10 and by deleting particular relationship A 011.
Could u please advice me to remove the inheritance with particular cost center with particular org. unit.
Thanks and regards,
Vishunu.

Cost Center Can be inherited Via
OU - Current or Any OU above inthe Hierarchy
Position Hierarchy
IT - Account Assignment for OU or Position
Or IT-27 directly..
Ensure Cost center ref is removed from all these sources if you dont want a Cost Center.

Assigning Finance manager position to a cost center in Org. Unit.

Hi Guys,
How to Assign Finance manager position to a cost center in Org. Unit.
I am using this assignment in a workflow, selecting finance manager from table HRP1001.
Thanks
Senthil

Senthil
We dont assign the Cost Centre to positon directly
We assign the Cost Centre to the Org Unit
later while assigning the Position to the Org Unit the cost Centre will auotmatically gets defaul to Positions which belongs to that Org Unit
try thru tcode PP01 give ur Object id of ur org unit and select Cost Centre Assigment infotype gibve the dates
ther give the Relationship A 011 and select ur Cost Centre (K)
or u can also do thru Expert Mode P010 also
Check this one and let me know if there is anything else
Edited by: Sikindar on Apr 8, 2009 8:34 AM
Edited by: Sikindar on Apr 8, 2009 8:34 AM

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