Depreciation start
Hello all!
What negative consequences can arrise if I start the depreciation on the 1st of current month for the current month? for example I run the depreciation on the 1st of september for september.
Thankes in advance.
on 01 it wil post the known deprececiation for that month (posting date last day of the month. On the end of the month it will post the difference based on the depreciation run from 01 and the month end situation. When there are no changes during the month nothing is posted
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I am facing the following the issues.
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First Problem: Company acquired the asset Vehicle on 26.Dec.2008. System proposes Ordinary Depreciation Start Date as 01.Jan.2009 rather then proposing Ordinary Depreciation Start Date as 01.Dec.2008.
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In period control method we will mention the depreciation start date for acquisition, additions and also depreciation end date for disposals, retirements.
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THanks
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