G/L Account Time-dependency features

Hi Experts,
We are facing a major problem regrading to some atributes of GL Accounts in project in an Insurance company.
First of all, we need the account Texts to be time-dependent because they do change throughout time, so the users can keep track of change and display the correct information in reports depending on time of evaluation.
The second point is related to the relationship of G/L account and Alternative account. This kind of thing also changes throughout time and need to be tracked because the Balance Sheet will be generated based on Alternative Chart of Accounts that will be reflected based on GL Accounts postings.
Has anyone ever faced a situation like this? What would be the implications/viability of using ABAP developments to make these things operational?
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance.
Fabio

Hi Fabio,
I believe this is not possible, As GL accounts do not have time -dependent fields.
You may achieve the same with a work-around like this
Create two accounts CLAIMS and REJECTED CLAIMS
If you need the balance in CLAIMS to be shown under REJECTED CLAIMS from 01.09.2009
- make a JV transfer posting from CLAIMS to REJECTED CLAIMS on 01.09.2009 instead of changing the account name,
Now if you execute the Balance Sheet as on 30.08.09 (key date <01.09.09) you
would see the balance under CLAIMS
but if you executed the balance sheet with key date >01.09.09 you would see the balance under REJECTED CLAIMS
Similarly you may create two accounts (B1 and B2) and assign them to two different alternative accounts (A1 and A2 respectively) and make a transfer posting from B1 to B2 when you need to change this relation.
Hope it helps
Regards
Sach!n
Edited by: Sachin Bhutani on Sep 18, 2009 2:36 AM

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