Intermittent noisy line problem

Hi.  Just about tearing my hair out over a line problem which has been giving trouble on & off for over 6 months.  The line becomes very noisy from time to time, depending on weather it seems.  We have had similar problems ever since moving here 13 years ago - the line runs overhead through woodland for about 4km to the exchange - and each time it is a corroded wire due to water penetration somewhere along the route.
This time the engineer cannot locate the fault.  He agreed there was noise but the equipment he had could not locate where it was.  He advised calling another engineer when it was bad and hopefully he would be able to locate it.  However, I have just noticed that BT has charged me £127 for the visit, even though there was no suggestion that the fault lay with the internal wiring or equipment - heck, I even gave the guy a cuppa tea!
Any advice on (a) getting the charge reversed and (b) getting the fault sorted.  Sometimes the line is so bad I have to resort to mobile, and the broadband speed can drop to a few hundred kbps.  Grrrrrr.
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At [email protected] with a link to this post and your bt account no and phone no they will reply within a few days and are great at sorting these sort of problems
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    MarkPK wrote:
    I hope someone can help me with this one too. BT are mainly unhelpful.
    Over the last few weeks the line has been intermittnetly noisy. Usually in an evening to the extent that it is not possible to hold a conversation for buzzing, whistling and distortion. I have done the 17070 2 quiet line test which is noisy with buzzing and whistling when the line is noisy and completely silent when the line is OK. I get exactly the same results using an old wired phone plugged into the test socket of the openreach Mk2 socket.
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    sorry but just need to keep at it and get another engineer - line may well be noisy next time
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