KE27 Revaluation of COPA in case of 2 sales orders

Hi,
in our brazilian company, we have several processes that include 2 or 3
sales orders; according to the recommandation in help.sap.com library
Brazil:
SD u2013 Nota Fiscal Integration in SD u2013 Nota Fiscal Customizing in SD u2013
Future Delivery
=> e.g. Recommendation for Future Delivery Process: Create 2 sales
orders (VEF and VEFR)
If we try to run KE27 for an invoice, the actual revaluation is 0.
The reason is that the actual valuation of material ledger (for example
in transaction CKM3N) is connected to the first sales order, but the invoice is triggered by the second sales order.
It looks like KE27 is not able to read the valuation of the second
sales order.
How can the COPA document of this invoice be revaluated to actual costs
using KE27? Or is there another way to revaluate this?
thanks for your help - br,
Wolfgang Steinhart

Solved myself

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Hi Karthik,
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Edited by: vglokam on Aug 31, 2010 10:52 AM
Edited by: vglokam on Aug 31, 2010 10:54 AM

Hi
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1. Go to KEI1, Select your PA transfer structure...
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COPA - Multiple Sales Order with one wbs element. COPA does not reference of reference of sales order.
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