More Cool N Quiet weirdness

Howdy All!
Okay...
I did a search on Cool N Quiet  in these forums and there were something like 156 posts with "Cool N Quiet" in the body or title of the post.  I searched around and I didn't find anything complaining about what I'm about to ask you guys.
Most posts deal with the fact that people are were having trouble getting Cool N Quiet to reduce their CPU speed from 2000MHz to 800MHz.
I had this exact same problem.  All of a sudden (perhaps from all the automatic patching I've been doing) it worked!  My speed is now at 800MHz when I'm not doing anything important (well...important to ME)
Here's my problem:  I've been playing a game called X2-The Threat lately...hated it at first, but it's growing on me.  Anyway, this game worked flawlessly for several weeks with all the fancy, shmancy graphics functions turned on.  All of a sudden, it starts freezing on me after about 5 minutes.  I checked for viruses...none.  I started tweaking graphics settings in the game...got rid of antialiasing and some other stuff...reduced resolution to 800x600...etc.  Still the game freezes.  THEN l looked at my CPU speed and low and behold....I'm down to 800MHz!  Cool N Quiet seems to be working to reduce my speed, but it doesn't seem to ramp up the speed when I need it.
Has anybody seen that before?  When I disable Cool N Quiet in BIOS I show CPU speeds at weird MHz readings....345Mhz and 376MHz...stuff like that.  Very odd.  You people have always been so helpful....any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
-Kyde

Yes...I wondered about that.  A bit inconvenient, but not a horrible thing to have to do.  I have an old Logitech Extreme joystick and I have to verify that Windows sees it before I can use it in the game or the game won't recognize it.  I suppose adding another little task before I start won't kill me.
Thanks for the advice.  
I'll give it a shot this evening.
-Kyde

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