MRP+Batch determination/restriction complex scenario

I have a very complex issue with MRP and Batch Determination. Here is my
situation. Please help me find a solution.
I have materials which are batch managed and each material can have numerous batches based on the quality (80%, 70%, 90%). Materials can have up to 100-150 batches. Some batches can be used only by some customers (Plants, Customers) in different countries because of legal issues. When
we run an MRP, MRP doesn't care which batch it is, it just creates planned orders/purchase reqs based on the quantity, material and plant. Just to give you an example, Lets say we have material A which as 2 batches Batch 1 and Batch 2. Lets say we have customer x and Customer y. Customer X can use only Batch 1 for the material not batch 2 because of legal issues and standards. Customer y can use Batch 1 and also batch 2. When we run an MRP, MRP is suggesting to send batch 2 to customer x which is not right. Storage location creation is out of question coz of business requirement in those countries.
Is there any user exit or enhancements that i can look into, or can I accomplish this through custom z tables/tcodes ? Is there any other way I can handle this through master data change ?
Please help me out on this and let me know what other possible ways we can handle this issue.
Thanks,
Mike

You have to use characteristic dependent planning functionality of APO.
For this you should also have a varient class in the materials with characteristics indicating the parameters to be controlled/checked.
Thus you will have a requirement which will have the characteristic that indicates the country or such other things. The batches should also have same characteristics.
In material A you will have a characteristic that indicates the customer (X or Y). The batches of the material will also have same characteristic which will have value X for batch 1 and value Y in batch 2. When MRP is (run in APO) system will consider the requirements of different characteristics differently and propose the procurement accordingly.
You also may have to activate characteristic based availability check in GATP of APO.
Hope this will help you.
Regards,
Nitin

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MRP + Batch determination/restriction complex sceanario

I have a very complex issue with MRP and Batch Determination. Here is my
situation. Please help me find a solution.
I have materials which are batch managed and each material can have numerous batches based on the quality (80%, 70%, 90%). Materials can have up to 100-150 batches. Some batches can be used only by some customers (Plants, Customers) in different countries because of legal issues. When
we run an MRP, MRP doesn't care which batch it is, it just creates planned orders/purchase reqs based on the quantity, material and plant. Just to give you an example, Lets say we have material A which as 2 batches Batch 1 and Batch 2. Lets say we have customer x and Customer y. Customer X can use only Batch 1 for the material not batch 2 because of legal issues and standards. Customer y can use Batch 1 and also batch 2. When we run an MRP, MRP is suggesting to send batch 2 to customer x which is not right. Storage location creation is out of question coz of business requirement in those countries.
Is there any user exit or enhancements that i can look into, or can I accomplish this through custom z tables/tcodes ? Is there any other way I can handle this through master data change ?
Please help me out on this and let me know what other possible ways we can handle this issue.
Thanks,
Mike

Hi
I think your requirement can be mapped using standard Batch determination set up. Pl try with...
1) Create 2 more Char in CT04 like Plant and Customer and assign to the batch Class already exists (023). The idea is to give plant and customer data values to each batch along with other batch char values
2) In the SPRO > Log- gen > Batch mgt > Batch determination and Batch chk
   a) Create new condition table with Customer/Plant/Material/Mvt type
   b) Create Access table
   c) Create Strategy type
   d) Create Search Procedure and assign Stg type
   e) Assign the Search procedure to mvt type 261
3) Create Batch search strategy in MCB1 for the Strategy type created earlier for the combination
    Customer/plant/mvt type/material combination and maintain sorting rule and Batch search criteria and maintain classification data
Example of Batches say
Batch-123            Batch-231_
Density- 1                   Density- 1.2
Viscosity - 1.8             Viscosity - 1.8
Plant - 1000                 Plant - 1100
Customer - A               Customer - A
4) Now while running MRP system will pick up the Batches corresponding to that plant or customer. Hope this will solve u r problem. Pl revert back for more info
Regards
Brahmaji

Batch Determination Restriction in VL02N

Dear Expert,
How can i restrict the batch determination option in VL02N. Is there any object which can be used to block the said activity for certain users or disable the option of batch determination.
Regards.
Edited by: Govinder Singh on Oct 20, 2009 3:00 PM

Hello,
Check with objects C_TCLA_BKA and C_TCLS_MNT
You can trace using ST01 and find respective objects.
Regards,
Gowrinadh

How to exclude restricted-use batch from batch-determination in backflushin

Hello,
In the Goods-Movement screen during confirmation transaction (i.e. backflushing), we see that SAP has selected some batches that are restricted-use stock. This must be due to some setting in batch-determination functionality. We want to know how to exclude restricted-use stocks from being considered in batch-determination. What setting, in which config transaction, can help us achieve this ? Kindly help. Thanks.
- Chetan

Thanks Manoj,
That was a very good information and I learnt something new.
However, I checked, and in that config, we are already "not-allowing" restricted-use stock for MvT-261. So what else can be used to prohibit its selection during backflushing. Thanks.
- Chetan

Batch Determination for Purchase Requisitions

Hi,
Is it possible upon MRP, a batch determination occurs when creating the Purchase Requisition? So that even during PR, the batch number is already indicated.
Thanks,
Lee

Hi
You can create batch only under the following scenarios (as given below) and it is not logically correct to determine the batch during creation of batch. Generally we create it during GR and in specific cases it can be assigned during purchase order.
The system creates a batch master record in the background in the following procedures:
The first time goods are received for a batch
During creation of a process or production order
When a usage decision is made in quality management
During a recurring inspection
For transfer postings (when you want to split a batch, for example)
When creating a purchase order
Reward if useful
Regards
edwin

Batch determination for Process order component

Hi,
The Scenario is as follows:
The batch determination should first consume Unrestricted (UR) stock and then only go for consignment (K) stock.
Custom development has been done in BADI to meet the above requirement.
Criteria for selection of UR batches:
If any of the UR stock batches are available for which UR stock u2013 Reserved stock >= component requirement qty , then delete the K batches and push the UR batches only to the next step for Batch determination. The deleted K batches are appended at the last step for display after batch determination as per the requirement.
Now the Client requirement is there should be an option of manual assignment of qty from pre-selected Unrestricted (UR) batch to any of the consigned (K) batch.
When the above is done, the system says the available quantity of batch (K) was corrected to 0,000 PC and the avialable qty is set to ZERO ( but the stock is available for K batch). Is there any way to address this requiremement?
Criteria for selection of K batches:
If any of the UR batches not available for the above condition, Push all the batches ( UR + K) for Batch determination.
Regards,
Prasad

Dear Prasad,
if you want K stock ist selected in batch determination you have to run a stock determination within the batch determination. Otherwise you will not get the special stock indicator K in selection result.
Their is a big restriction by using K stock. You have to make sure that you don't use K stock and free stock for the same batch in the same sloc. Otherwise you will run into problems.
BR Sabine

Issues during Component Batch Determination for Process Orders

Hi,
I am encountering a strange issue during component batch determination of process order.
1. During creation of process order, when I execute batch determination, systems does determination based on strategies we have set and when I click on Copy it gives an error
"Log cannot be saved: Object/subobject not specified"
Message no. BL201
*Diagnosis
Log save cancelled because at least one log contains no object or subobject.
Object and subobject are needed to classify application logs because there are several log types. Only a few logs are managed in main memory at runtime, so this classification is not needed.
If the logs are to be saved in the database, object/subobject must be specified for later retrieval.
Procedure for System Administration
Object/sub object can be passed when a log is created (function module BAL_LOG_CREATE) and changed with BAL_LOG_CHANGE.
The possible values for object and sub object must be configured in transaction SLG0.*
If I save the order with CRTD status and come back again in change mode and do determination, It works fine.
Again when the order is in REL status and do the determination, It gives the same error.
This happens only for a specific plant, In other plants batch determination works in all scenarios.
I checked for all plant related Config for batch determination and coudn't find any discrepancies.
Please advise how to resolve this issue. Thanks in advance for your help
Regards,
Aheesh

There Is no direct solution for your requirement just try this work around.
While defining the batch determination search strategy for process order in COB1, there is one column Quantity proposal where you can attach the Routines (This is written in ABAB code ) make use of this, define New Routines with ABAB help to fulfill your requirement. Try this if found useful award full points.
Regards,
Ajay Nikte

Stock determination in Batch determination.

Hi Freinds,
Scenario is as follows:
Batch determination is already active with FIFO logic. There are 2 types of stock ( Own unrestricted and consignment)with batches in same storage location.
If I maintain stock determination rule as 'consignment' in Component material master then only consignment batches are pulled in production order component overview while Order release.
If i dont maintain stock determination rule then batch determination is done with FIFO logic and accordingly batches are pulled in correctly but then if the batch is from consignment stock, there is no Special stock indicator 'K' in the component overview against the consignment batch.
Is there any way I could pull in the special stock indicator keeping the FIFO logic same in batch determination.
Please note that batches are already pulled on FIFO logic and requirement is to bring in the special stock indicator K if batch is from consignment stock. I dont want any particular stock type to be given priority since batches are pulled on FIFO base irrespective of stock types.
Can we fulfill this requirement ?
Any inputs would be highy appreciated.
Thanks in Advance
Shailesh Nadkarni.

I have only worked on a scenario where there needs to be priority assigned based on stock type first followed by batch, but not this one so the below is not from exp. but just a suggestion.
Add a characteristic to your batch determination procedure being used for production orders for stock type. With that in place, check if you can get the stock type passed to the order as per your need.
Give it a try n let me know if it works, meanwhile if there is anything else which comes to my mind will post in here.

Batch Determination in Production Order Component Overview Screen on the basis of FIFO, Thickness, Grade, width etc.

I am facing a difficult scenario. Pl. help me out. In my Business Process I am assigning Batches in Production Order Component Overview Screen. Here I am assigning relevant batches to BOM Components manually, My Management want SAP to suggest batches automatically on FIFO basis, thickness, grade, width & first batches should automatically assign to Production order. Can you pl. tell me how to configure this scenario.
Or can I pull stock overview screen at Production Order Component screen to assign relevant batch to BOM Components
Once batches assigned in Production Order component screen cannot be changed. It can be changes by specific persons only.

Hi,
Automatic Batch Determination for production order components is possible by configuration.
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Batch determination in production order | SCN
Automatic Batch Determination in Production order
Regards,
Naresh

Batch determination in Subcontracting order

Hi,
Can any one of you explain me the steps for doing batch determination for subcontracting orders. i am facing the same issue, but i dont know what steps to follow.
our scenario is: we do a GR against a Sub contracted PO using 101 mvt type and when i am trying to post the document, it's asking me to enter the batch for few components which are maintained as vendor consigned stock and in batches.
is it possible to automate the process? can any body explain how to setup the customization for batch determination?
thanks in advance,
Kanth

Follow the below steps.
01. For movement type 543 "O" assign your search procedure T code : OMCG
02. Maintain conditions record or strategy record.
A1) Normaly we use batch determination at delivery level, because at the time of order material may or may not be created.for this material should be configured with batch and batch determination should be checked in sales views of material.
A2) Batch Determination during order Creation.
For this you need to maintain a Classes d for you Material. Depending on the Manufacturing process you can define the characteristics for your material.
Ex: Purity for Medicines, Resistance for Electric Items.
You need to create a class (You might have to create a new class type) which incorporates the characteristic.
First Create the Characteristic Using Ct04 and then using Cl02 create the Class including this characteristic.
Then in your material master Classification View Enter this class.
Then Create a Batch for the particular plant and Stor Loc using MSC1N.Give the value of the characteristics in this batch.
Then go to SPRO ->Logistics General ->Batch Management and maintain the Condition Technique (Procedure, Strategy Types and assignment to sales docs etc).
Then Create the Batch Determination Record using VCH1.

Batch Creation or Batch Determination for 531 movement type

Dear Experts,
I have some confusion with Movement type 531 -
1) Can we do Batch determination for 531 movement type.
2) Can we do the automatic Batch creation at the production order level or confirmation level. In this case i have done the settings but in confirmation screen i have to create batch manually through Menu Path.
3) I have to enter characteristics value manually in confirmation screen as i have select classify batches in foreground. But in material master we have Batch Class type so can values comes from there to batch of confirmation screen.
Thanks & Regards,
Saurabh Kumar

Hello
Please read carefully notes 191368 and 194619. These are very old correction notes and they are already implemented on your system, however, they provide the following information about the system design:
For a by-product or co-product, no batch determination is executed anymore. The subsequent stock determination is not executed anymore either.
and
No batch determination for by-products may be executed during the confirmation.
It means that the batch determination for movemen 531 is not a functionality of the standard system.
I have never tested this scenario, however, as far as I know, the batch can be created automatically for the by-product if you are using internal number range on OMCZ.
BR
Caetano

Automatic Batch Determination in Production order

Dear All,
We are using automatic batch determination is based on FIFO (first Mfg first out) for components..After releasing the order.
I have maintained Batch Class in all the materials which are used as a all material special Characteristic LOBM_HSDAT as a one of the class characteristic. as we want batch determination on GR date for few material and for few material LOBM_VFDAT for self life material and its class.
Then create Sort Rule CU70 mainatained the same LOBM_HSDAT in it. and one with LOBM_VFDAT.
Then create Batch serch Strategy (USE T.Code COB1- search strategy CO01the respective sort rule and selection critoria.for All ROH HALB and Finish material.
In Material Master of all component in MRP 2 view select value 3 (Automatic Batch Determination) for BATCH ENTRY. All ROH HALB and Finish material
After mainting above all prerequisite I should able to do the Automatic Batch Determination as per my selection Rule.
But Automatic Batch Determination in Production order after release is not working.
Please need your help.
Regards,
Manish
Edited by: manish gurnule on Dec 30, 2008 5:26 AM

Dear,
Define the batch determination search strategy for process order in COB1 with sort rule in CU70.
On the initial screen of your application choose Logistics>centrel function>batch management>Batch determination>For process order -->Batch search strategy --> Create.
On the initial screen of your application choose Batch search strategy -->Create.
Choose the strategy type, say choose co02
Choose the key combination-
Enter the required dat-->say plant ,production order type, product,valid from and component for which you want to have this
Choose Selection criteria push button. Choose a sort sequence.
If no values have been entered, enter the selection class and the characteristic values.
Go back to the screen on which you create a batch search strategy.
Choose Sort if required(it should be defined earlier(in CU70- here you are giving the charateristic name on which you want to sort)
For component you need to use MBC1 with search stratgey as ME01 for your plant movement type and material and assign the sort rule and search procedure here.
Check also in COR4, for the combination of plant and order type...you have selected search procedure-CO0001
Batch management> Batch serach procedure allocation and check activation
T.Code to be looked specifically OMCG , CORC
Hope it will help you.
Regards,
Madhu

MPN Manufacturer batch determination during goods issue

I am from pharma industry and my business runs with batch management, MPN features.
Scenario:
I have 3 different finished product P1, P2 and P3. All three finished products use raw material R1.
But, I have restrcition like, when I am manufacturing P1 product I can only use R1 of batch from manufacturer M1.
For P2 material we can use R1 batch from manufacturer M2 only.
For P3 material we can use R1 batch from manufacturer M1 and M2.
Now, I have maintained the BOM CS02 batch classification for three differ FGs P1, P2 and P3 with relation P1-R1-M1, P2-R1-M2, P3-R1-M1+M2.
In COB2 T-code I am mainmtaining strategy type CO02 - Order type/Plant/Parent material with child relation ship. Here also, I am maintaining relation P1-R1-M1, P2-R1-M2, P3-R1-M1+M2.
Now, when I am creating process order in COR1, I am getting in case of P1 order R1 material batch determination only batches from M1 manufacturer.
Same as for P2 material process order R1 material only batches for detrmination from M2 manufacturer.
Same as for P3 material process order R1 material batch determination option from M1 and M2 only.
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As in MBC2 T-code, we have standard batch determination and search strategy for material, plant and movement type.
But, here we can't maintain any parent child relationship.
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Through any standard settings we can do or, any exits required?
Gurus please suggest!

Dear
You can do this by using FM CO_WB_BATCH_DETERMINATION or VB_BATCH_DETERMINATION function module.
here you can sort the batches and compare the Batch results with the batch search strategy.
Regards,
R.Brahmankar

Automatic Batch Determination while doing MFBF

Hello PP Gurus,
I have a scenario related to Repetitive Manufacturing.
I am doing MFBF transaction and doing Assembly backflush by clicking Post with correction. One of the components is batch managed.
My requirement is : On selection screen of MFBF I enter MAterial,PLant BAckflush Quantity , REM Production Version and Storage Location.
What I want is that for the component that is batch managed there should be automatic batcah determination based on shelf life and also it should pick up stock from a particular storage location only.
Also when I click POst with correction button and go to components screen the Batch Determination button comes greyed out.
For header material have maintained REM Profile.
PLease let me know what all I need to do for meeting above requirement.

Hi Anupam,
I need to know 2 things more from your side.. As you told I need to assign Stock Detrmination Rule and Batch Determination strategy in Control Data 2 of REM profile.
I have doubt on Batch determination strategy :
1) Which Batch determination strategy should I assign here. Second what all else I need to do from my side so that a batch is automatically picked and assigned to the componenet material.
The things what I have done is : I have a made a Batch Class, Assigned shelf life as a charcterstic to it. I have defined a sort rule with this characterstic.
What else I need to do.
Also FYI : We are not putting a planned order in MFBF. We are inpiutting the material to be backflushed...
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Batch Determination while putting Batch Manually

Dear Friends,
We just activated batch determination for Delivery process. now delivery determining automatically
batch when we are going to create delivery.
we have a question..
When we select any line from Delivery and press batch split and then delete line from batch split screen.
now we can manually add batch and it is not taking care of that batch determination rules.
how can we restrict this bypassing of batch determination stretegy.
thanks with regards
Malik

HI
Batch Determination is based on the Selection type batch Determination
     immediate selection according to selection criteria
N     no selection at beginning of batch determination
O     selection with no selection criteria
F     selection criteria cannot be changed in batch determination
Check how you maintained in VCH1/VCH2/VCH3
if you want the system automatically at the time of delivery mentioned "O"
and also check the sort rule
Regards,
Prasanna
Edited by: prasanna_sap on Feb 1, 2012 10:41 AM

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